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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    pjl44 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why is anyone surprised that the books are being cooked? It comes directly from Team Trump Treason. He's been doing it his entire life and this is how he and his family think:

     "I only defrauded them a little bit and paid a one million dollar fine. It could have been a ten million dollar fine or a one hundred million dollar fine. But it wasn't so its been a great success."

    Or

    "I declared bankruptcy when I couldn't pay back the three hundred million dollar loan but I could have declared bankruptcy when I owed six hundred million dollars but I didn't so again, its been a great success."

    Or

    "I applied for loans and listed billions in assets but when I declared my taxes, I actually declared billions in losses and undervalued my holdings by hundreds of millions. Of course that's success and its the best, most beautiful success ever, in the history of human kind."
    It's not some conspiracy. States with Democrat Governors have been making the same mistake (PA, VA, ME).
    Its also not completely transparent or above board, either. Give it a few more weeks in those states that rushed to re-open. Not one of them followed the CDC guidelines for re-opening. But yea, deaths and cases are going down. Maybe those dem governors are following the lead of Team Trump Treason and his failed, corrupt administration while being intimidated by their riled up, gun toting voters?
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  • pjhawks
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    so in my County in Pa. more people over the age of 100 than those under the age of 45 have died from this virus.  Our governor wants to keep businesses closed until we get 50 or less cases per 100k residents for 2 weeks straight. Our county is loaded with nursing homes and a high percentage of the cases are in nursing homes.   sorry but keeping all these small businesses still closed when most of the cases are in nursing homes is insane. 
  • mickeyrat
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    opinion piece but worth the read...


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    Coronavirus hot spots erupt across the country; experts warn of second wave in South



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-hot-spots-erupt-across-the-country-experts-warn-of-possible-outbreaks-in-south/2020/05/20/49bc6d10-9ab4-11ea-a282-386f56d579e6_story.html
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-china-travel-ban-45a2da12-8063-4ad9-ba28-61cdeb1ce0b3.html

    40,000 people entered the US from China AFTER Team Trump Treason's China travel ban. After February 2nd, when he announced it and more than likely knew or should have known about the virus as early as late November/December. "It'll soon be zero." "Its like the flu." "Like a miracle, it'll be gone by April."
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  • Bentleyspop
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Bentleyspop said:


    Exactly!  It's amazing how many people seem to be thinking, "Oh goodie, we're back to normal!"  Sure, we all wish that, but really?  No, no way.
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  • dankind
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    Yeah, pretty much the day our stay-at-home order was lifted, we had parents texting us to see if our kids could get together and play. 

    Um, no thank you. Sorry you have to keep being a parent. 
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  • PJNB
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    dankind said:
    Yeah, pretty much the day our stay-at-home order was lifted, we had parents texting us to see if our kids could get together and play. 

    Um, no thank you. Sorry you have to keep being a parent. 
    So where you live they are allowing your kids to play with other kids and you are saying no? 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    tbergs said:
    pjl44 said:
    Jason P said:
    pjl44 said:
    Jason P said:
    I don't know if an employer can just give out medical information of an employee to other employees without their consent.  I don't know if anyone with hepatitis want the boss to hit 'send all' company wide.  COVID is unique.  Seems like the proper human reaction would to inform other employees if someone tested with COVID.  But proper human reaction is ripe for getting sued to high heavens in court. 
    They don't need to name the person or even say it's an employee. I think people should be told if someone who was in the building tested positive.
    We had a nursing home put out an official statement after 40 employees tested positive a month ago.  Again, I have no idea what the proper responsibility / constraints an employer has if they know an employee tested positive.   But what if the employer hasn't seen an official doctor's report and is only relying on hearsay?  This is a devil's advocate scenario.

    fubar.
    I have it on good authority that if the employee tells someone then they wouldn't have a claim to privacy if they chose to go down that road. Aside from that, it depends on how someone finds out I guess. If it's actual rumor, that's probably not enough to act on.
    I work for a state college and we have a tracing policy in place. When the first possible case came up back in March we did a campus wide notification because the person had been all over the building. Shortly after is when everything went in to stay at home orders and we closed all access except one entry and require check in and track where everyone goes with limited access.

    We only notify those directly who had contact or work in proximity of the individual. It becomes pretty obvious who the person is once you start notifying people, but the name is never provided to anyone outside of HR and the supervisor. There is no requirement to notify an entire building if people didn't have contact. Most of the guidelines now indicate very low risk unless you were in direct contact with someone for more than 10 minutes. Once limited in person classes resume things will get more complicated and higher levels of exposure will be more likely.

    .Unfortunately telling the supervisor could lead to them telling 2 others and those 2 others and so forth.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Shit, I’d rather have a healthy kid than an ill one. I’d say no too (actually have, with close family). 
  • Lerxst1992
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    PJNB said:
    Phase 3 for province on Friday. Rumour is things are going to be opening up significantly. 


    • Family and friends bubble
    • Gatherings with physical distancing of 50 or fewer
    • Increase in elective surgeries and other non-emergency health care services
    • Non-regulated health professionals/businesses
    • Personal services businesses
    • Swimming pools, saunas and waterparks
    • Gyms, yoga and dance studios
    • Rinks and indoor recreational facilities
    • Pool halls and bowling alleys
    • Low-contact team sports
    • Other sectors to be determined
    That’s great news. We bought a “lounge pool” for my daughter because she needs to swim in the summer and her swim classes will be closed for a while. The lounge looks like a slightly fancy inflatable kiddie pool with built in seats but it will keep her occupied. The beaches will be open for swimming but she is really a pool girl. 

    Like to see the rinks open soon, could really use seeing a hockey game 
  • lindamarie73
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    pjhawks said:
    so in my County in Pa. more people over the age of 100 than those under the age of 45 have died from this virus.  Our governor wants to keep businesses closed until we get 50 or less cases per 100k residents for 2 weeks straight. Our county is loaded with nursing homes and a high percentage of the cases are in nursing homes.   sorry but keeping all these small businesses still closed when most of the cases are in nursing homes is insane. 
    Be careful, thoughts like this are blasphemous around these parts.  Thou shall not question Science!!! Thomas Dolby warned us about this 30 years ago....
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    lindamarie73 said:
    pjhawks said:
    so in my County in Pa. more people over the age of 100 than those under the age of 45 have died from this virus.  Our governor wants to keep businesses closed until we get 50 or less cases per 100k residents for 2 weeks straight. Our county is loaded with nursing homes and a high percentage of the cases are in nursing homes.   sorry but keeping all these small businesses still closed when most of the cases are in nursing homes is insane. 
    Be careful, thoughts like this are blasphemous around these parts.  Thou shall not question Science!!! Thomas Dolby warned us about this 30 years ago....

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  • Smellyman
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    Stupid Science and your elitist book learnin'.

    Shove it!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Smellyman said:
    Stupid Science and your elitist book learnin'.

    Shove it!

    Your tell them damn innerlectuals, Smellyman!
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    edited May 2020
    PJNB said:
    dankind said:
    Yeah, pretty much the day our stay-at-home order was lifted, we had parents texting us to see if our kids could get together and play. 

    Um, no thank you. Sorry you have to keep being a parent. 
    So where you live they are allowing your kids to play with other kids and you are saying no? 
    Of course he is, he is smart and cares about his kids.
    Some of us live in areas where thousands of people have died from this.
    I get that many areas are not seeing lots of deaths....and I guess I can understand people believing the govt in those cases

    I'm not trusting the govt for shit, in NJ, and I surely wouldn't in MA (where Dankind lives) either.

    They are caving to the pressure from the people vs the advice from the scientists.

    (Edit - also should be noted that both Dankind and myself shared we have people living in our households who are categorized as higher risk for having problems with this shit if they were to get it.  I still wouldn't allow it but this makes it a simple and basic decision for me.)
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  • Lerxst1992
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    brianlux said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    pjhawks said:
    so in my County in Pa. more people over the age of 100 than those under the age of 45 have died from this virus.  Our governor wants to keep businesses closed until we get 50 or less cases per 100k residents for 2 weeks straight. Our county is loaded with nursing homes and a high percentage of the cases are in nursing homes.   sorry but keeping all these small businesses still closed when most of the cases are in nursing homes is insane. 
    Be careful, thoughts like this are blasphemous around these parts.  Thou shall not question Science!!! Thomas Dolby warned us about this 30 years ago....

    You know...
    ...awe, fuggedaboudit.


    I don’t know Brian, it’s like we are living in an alternate universe. When I talk with conservatives, they pretend it’s a foregone conclusion we are past the worst of it and everything should be back to normal And open , something we all desperately want.

    But take a close look at yesterday’s numbers, and subtract NY from USA, and the result is one of the worst days ever for new cases and deaths. US outside NY is still at the peak and we are almost into June. Whoever heard of thousands dying from a virus in late May? Whoever heard of over a thousand deaths a day for a virus in the supposedly wealthiest and best health system on earth?Two months and still peaking? When do we pay attention? 200,000 deaths? Linda?




  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,422
    lindamarie73 said:
    pjhawks said:
    so in my County in Pa. more people over the age of 100 than those under the age of 45 have died from this virus.  Our governor wants to keep businesses closed until we get 50 or less cases per 100k residents for 2 weeks straight. Our county is loaded with nursing homes and a high percentage of the cases are in nursing homes.   sorry but keeping all these small businesses still closed when most of the cases are in nursing homes is insane. 
    Be careful, thoughts like this are blasphemous around these parts.  Thou shall not question Science!!! Thomas Dolby warned us about this 30 years ago....
    Better to be 6 feet apart then 6 feet under 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    dankind said:
    Yeah, pretty much the day our stay-at-home order was lifted, we had parents texting us to see if our kids could get together and play. 

    Um, no thank you. Sorry you have to keep being a parent. 
    I’d be hesitant as well specially with what’s happening with children with this virus! 
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