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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,146
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sour grapes Bernie supporters are the most insufferable of them all. Amash will save you all. Good luck with that. But hey, its a free country.
    I definitely see Clinton supporters as the sourest grapes of all, talk about Bernie living rent free in someone’s head. I guess that’s because I’m looking through my filter and you are looking through yours.
    Clinton who?
    The irrelevant lady that would have saved us all...?
    I'm not sure she would have saved us all as some are beyond saving. But she sure as hell would have done a better job than the shit show currently occupying the Executive Branch.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sour grapes Bernie supporters are the most insufferable of them all. Amash will save you all. Good luck with that. But hey, its a free country.
    I definitely see Clinton supporters as the sourest grapes of all, talk about Bernie living rent free in someone’s head. I guess that’s because I’m looking through my filter and you are looking through yours.
    Clinton who?
    The irrelevant lady that would have saved us all...?
    I'm not sure she would have saved us all as some are beyond saving. But she sure as hell would have done a better job than the shit show currently occupying the Executive Branch.
    At the very least we'd have been more prepared for this pandemic. Perhaps thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of lives would have been spared.

    But yeah, no difference to a Trump presidency at all. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sour grapes Bernie supporters are the most insufferable of them all. Amash will save you all. Good luck with that. But hey, its a free country.
    I definitely see Clinton supporters as the sourest grapes of all, talk about Bernie living rent free in someone’s head. I guess that’s because I’m looking through my filter and you are looking through yours.
    Clinton who?
    The irrelevant lady that would have saved us all...?
    I'm not sure she would have saved us all as some are beyond saving. But she sure as hell would have done a better job than the shit show currently occupying the Executive Branch.
    At the very least we'd have been more prepared for this pandemic. Perhaps thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of lives would have been spared.

    But yeah, no difference to a Trump presidency at all. 
    We would have been more prepared and Fox News wouldn't have spent two months convincing its older, at-risk audience that there was nothing to worry about. 
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,362
    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sour grapes Bernie supporters are the most insufferable of them all. Amash will save you all. Good luck with that. But hey, its a free country.
    I definitely see Clinton supporters as the sourest grapes of all, talk about Bernie living rent free in someone’s head. I guess that’s because I’m looking through my filter and you are looking through yours.
    Clinton who?
    The irrelevant lady that would have saved us all...?
    I'm not sure she would have saved us all as some are beyond saving. But she sure as hell would have done a better job than the shit show currently occupying the Executive Branch.
    At the very least we'd have been more prepared for this pandemic. Perhaps thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of lives would have been spared.

    But yeah, no difference to a Trump presidency at all. 
    This 100% - but that unshakable cult-like base has an inability to look at the orange buffoon objectively in ANY manner whatsoever. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,856
    mrussel1 said:
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html

    Compelling... Axelrod is no lackey either. 
    Do you honestly think that anyone will click on a link you post ever again?
    Haha... I sent one to my friends titled "Pearl Jam to launch club tour in 2021".

    Damn what did I miss?
    The club tour that is rumored?  You didn't hear about it?  https://www.latlmes.com/breaking/pearl-jam-to-announce-club-tour-1

    yeah I did catch that later on, thanks. I hear they just recorded a follow up to Bu$hleaguer about Trump to play back to back at the club shows  https://www.latlmes.com/music/pearl-jam-releases-new-song-dump-trump-1


  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,856
    mrussel1 said:
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    When I see smug comments like this part of me just wants to stay home and let trump win.  
    Trumpism as safe space from smug tweets is a new one. 
    I was thinking more because it’s like some people are more interested in making smug and pretentious comments about other people and smelling the air of their supposed moral high ground and supremely righteous stance than they are about actually doing work to get trump out.  I’m sure rick and the twitter like are making a handsome sum with their daily twitter rage farm.  I don’t understand how this position is more helpful than advocating for your candidate or against trump. Nothing is gained by posts like this. I guess alienating people that don’t share the exact opinions as you and saying they are falling for a big conspiracy of Russian bots is a great way to win an election.  
    Wouldn't you only feel this way if what Rick is saying applies to you? Its not like voters weren't played in 2016.
    I think voters being played was less of an issue than Hillary being a generally robotic and unlikeable candidate.  We have joe this time and he is much more like able. It is also very clear that every word he says doesn’t come off as if it was pre planned and thought about what the  political optics will be. I’ve never heard of rick Wilson until Trump won in 2016.  I’m sure Rick has more to gain by a Trump win than most, how will he be relevant without a Trump to rail against, maybe Rick is the Russian bot and he is the one doing the playing.
    Yes, this 100%
    He does, but don't discount how much he gave up by becoming a never Trumper in the first place.  He could have bent the knee and would probably be a 'senior campaign adviser' at this point.  These four, even more so  than the French's, Goldbergs, Sullivans, etc, put their careers on the line.  They are strategists without a home.  

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    Biden
     hmmm, sorta makes it impossible for Biden to defuse this grenade......


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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    Biden
    darwinstheory said:
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sour grapes Bernie supporters are the most insufferable of them all. Amash will save you all. Good luck with that. But hey, its a free country.
    I definitely see Clinton supporters as the sourest grapes of all, talk about Bernie living rent free in someone’s head. I guess that’s because I’m looking through my filter and you are looking through yours.
    Clinton who?
    The irrelevant lady that would have saved us all...?
    I'm not sure she would have saved us all as some are beyond saving. But she sure as hell would have done a better job than the shit show currently occupying the Executive Branch.
    At the very least we'd have been more prepared for this pandemic. Perhaps thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of lives would have been spared.

    But yeah, no difference to a Trump presidency at all. 
    This 100% - but that unshakable cult-like base has an inability to look at the orange buffoon objectively in ANY manner whatsoever. 
    They don't  care what he does or says or lies about as long as he claims to love Jesus, guns, white male christians,  and big huge business. And that he claims to hate abortion, gun control of any sort, and foreigners of any kind except the white ones.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
     hmmm, sorta makes it impossible for Biden to defuse this grenade......


    I don't think this hurts Biden.  I think it's generally a dead story, or will be soon, unless something massive happens.  The fact that Reade even says you won't find any sexual harassment complaint in the records tells me that it's a wild goose chase.  What does discovering a complaint even do?  I don't think anyone ever said she never complained about anything.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
     hmmm, sorta makes it impossible for Biden to defuse this grenade......


    I don't think this hurts Biden.  I think it's generally a dead story, or will be soon, unless something massive happens.  The fact that Reade even says you won't find any sexual harassment complaint in the records tells me that it's a wild goose chase.  What does discovering a complaint even do?  I don't think anyone ever said she never complained about anything.  
    without the definitive proof one way or another, its just a lingering, festering wound....

    personally I dont believe it happened. So very out of character that we've seen over 40 years from him. And not one other allegation in all that time, especially after metoo hit.

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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
     hmmm, sorta makes it impossible for Biden to defuse this grenade......


    I don't think this hurts Biden.  I think it's generally a dead story, or will be soon, unless something massive happens.  The fact that Reade even says you won't find any sexual harassment complaint in the records tells me that it's a wild goose chase.  What does discovering a complaint even do?  I don't think anyone ever said she never complained about anything.  
    This is what I was gonna say. If she already came out and said nothing with that sort of info exists, what's the point of looking?
  • Lerxst1992
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    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
     hmmm, sorta makes it impossible for Biden to defuse this grenade......


    I don't think this hurts Biden.  I think it's generally a dead story, or will be soon, unless something massive happens.  The fact that Reade even says you won't find any sexual harassment complaint in the records tells me that it's a wild goose chase.  What does discovering a complaint even do?  I don't think anyone ever said she never complained about anything.  
    This is what I was gonna say. If she already came out and said nothing with that sort of info exists, what's the point of looking?

    Until the Senate pulls a Comey and 8 days before the election the senate magically decides its legal to release the records.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    I'm sitting this one out
    If you want a particularly depressing side effect of partisan entrenchment, here you go


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    I wonder how many of the respondents can really define 'credible'. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    I wonder how many of the respondents can really define 'credible'. 
    That's baked into the question. It doesn't need to be an objective definition. They're not asking about a specific situation.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited May 2020
    Biden
    Looks like the far left folks in here aren't the only one's who find the members of The Lincoln Project "insufferable."

    That new commercial hits him hard. Poor Donny is upset...






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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    I'm sitting this one out
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like the far left folks in here aren't the only one's who find the members of The Lincoln Project "insufferable."

    That new commercial hits him hard. Poor Donny is upset...






    As someone who is supporting an opposing candidate, I would strongly encourage any Biden supporters to donate to that PAC
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited May 2020
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like the far left folks in here aren't the only one's who find the members of The Lincoln Project "insufferable."

    That new commercial hits him hard. Poor Donny is upset...






    As someone who is supporting an opposing candidate, I would strongly encourage any Biden supporters to donate to that PAC
    I'd just encourage folks to watch their ads. They're quite powerful and clearly getting under the president's skin. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Geez.  The amazing thing is that so many people think he has an amazing love America, even while rage-tweeting in his own defense.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    I'm sitting this one out
    The Juggler said:
    pjl44 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like the far left folks in here aren't the only one's who find the members of The Lincoln Project "insufferable."

    That new commercial hits him hard. Poor Donny is upset...






    As someone who is supporting an opposing candidate, I would strongly encourage any Biden supporters to donate to that PAC
    I'd just encourage folks to watch their ads. They're quite powerful and clearly getting under the president's skin. 
    If I were a Biden supporter, I would be scrutinizing this. And this question is purely rhetorical: If it's meaningful that it gets under Trump's skin, does that make it impactful to the people you need to reach or is it chum for the most dedicated supporters?

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