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I'm sitting this one outPeople keep bringing up all these big money bogeyman and I would like to state on the record: Bring it on! Soros, Koch, Adelson, Gates, DeVos, whomever. If you uncover any of these people dumping piles of cash on the LP, please post ASAP and I will be *stoked*.0
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Bidenit just does not make sense for the right to potentially split their vote like this. they are going to team up."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Bidengimmesometruth27 said:this doesn't pass the smell test.It's a tough job- an odd job, to be precise- but somebody's gotta do it!
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This is not going to happen but I will give you full credit if it doesgimmesometruth27 said:i think amash is a plant by the trump administration.
amash voted to impeach and he left the gop. trump is going to extend an olive branch and squash the beef, and right wing media is going to say "see, trump holds no ill will against him, how presidential." they will join forces to beat "the radical left". it will also be the "you don't change presidents during wartime" strategy, and amash will bring his tea party bona fides to help reel in the never trumpers within the gop. just watch.0 -
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the republicans are too smart when it comes to national elections. they will get their machine going and it is quite possible that this will happen.pjl44 said:This is not going to happen but I will give you full credit if it does
if trump was concerned or angry about this, why has he not rage tweeted about it today? why is he not fearing being flanked by the right?
i would not say take this to the bank, but don't rule it out."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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You’re sold on that? Hook, line and sinker? Really? Seriously?pjl44 said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Gary Johnson and Bill Weld got 4.5 million votes in 2016. 2 Republican Governors. There's always a Libertarian candidate. This happens every Presidential election.gimmesometruth27 said:the republicans are too smart when it comes to national elections. they will get their machine going and it is quite possible that this will happen.
if trump was concerned or angry about this, why has he not rage tweeted about it today? why is he not fearing being flanked by the right?
i would not say take this to the bank, but don't rule it out.0 -
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
I'm sitting this one outDemocrats in 2020 are the goddamn best0
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I'm sitting this one outAre people really arguing that Amash is working with Trump?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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With no real life experience of how it would actually work as a functioning society to point to. Just ask a certain someone who hasn’t been around for awhile.mrussel1 said:Oh please. Get off the high horse. It's not like libertarianism is some political force for change in this country. It's nothing more than a protest vote.
Social media has never influenced anyone to vote for a particular candidate.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Yeah, I'm amazed at how easy it is for people to start spreading conspiracies after refuting the other side's conspiracy theories the last 4 years. It's disappointing.pjl44 said:Democrats in 2020 are the goddamn best
Oh well, time to get get back to my NYC pizza parlor...It's a hopeless situation...0 -
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This is my point exactly. We could all laugh at Alex Jones together and yet now...tbergs said:Yeah, I'm amazed at how easy it is for people to start spreading conspiracies after refuting the other side's conspiracy theories the last 4 years. It's disappointing.
Oh well, time to get get back to my NYC pizza parlor...0 -
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How can you not read the last few pages of this thread and just put your head in your hands?mrussel1 said:Oh please. Get off the high horse. It's not like libertarianism is some political force for change in this country. It's nothing more than a protest vote.0 -
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In thinking about Amash running I was prepared for a lot of reactions, but did not see this one comingSpiritual_Chaos said:Are people really arguing that Amash is working with Trump?0 -
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It just goes to show how each side can see what they want to see while the other side thinks it's crazy...because it is.pjl44 said:This is my point exactly. We could all laugh at Alex Jones together and yet now...
Each side thinks their argument is based in reality and fact. Yuck. It is easy to get caught up in if you suspend disbelief.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
I'm sitting this one outAs a libertarian who has spent years embarrassed by the behavior of many ideological colleagues, I welcome my Republican and Democrat friends into this familiar world0
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I'm busting balls about it, but should clarify that I do realize it's a minority that just happens to be very vocal. Same with social media.tbergs said:It just goes to show how each side can see what they want to see while the other side thinks it's crazy...because it is.
Each side thinks their argument is based in reality and fact. Yuck. It is easy to get caught up in if you suspend disbelief.0 -
pjl44 said:People keep bringing up all these big money bogeyman and I would like to state on the record: Bring it on! Soros, Koch, Adelson, Gates, DeVos, whomever. If you uncover any of these people dumping piles of cash on the LP, please post ASAP and I will be *stoked*.
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/contributors?cid=N00031938&cycle=CAREER
Nearly 40% of the corporate money Amash has raised is from 4 sources:
Cato Institute $35,000The Cato Institute was founded as the Charles Koch Foundation in 1974 by Charles Koch, chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the conglomerate Koch Industries.Amway/Alticor Inc $163,205
Alticor is a privately owned American corporation which is run by the DeVos family
CEO and Founder Richard DeVosWindquest Group $92,275
Founder: Stephen Moore - Donald Trump's Economic AdvisorClub for Growth $275,605
Nearly 14% ($196,000) came from Michigan Industrial Tools, aka Amash ImportsSector- Wholesale Trade. Trade Name- Michigan Industrial Tools, Amash Brothers Distributing. SoMIT/Tekton doesn’t make anything, just “Imports” & “distributes” shit from China
Amash is owned by the Republican party and China0
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