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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Even is she truly does have no intention of bringing a lawsuit, would she really have no lawyer urging her to stay the hell off of Twitter?
    Yeah good point.  She would have a lawyer.  
    She's most likely being counseled by someone loosely connected to the Trump campaign...


    ... "most likely" you say.
    Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

    Roger Stone would be proud of the attention she's getting...
    I’m waiting for Soros or the Clinton Foundation to hire PIs to investigate Tara’s finances, phone records and personal connections and what, if any, are related to the Team Trump Treason campaign, supporters, RNC and/or Putin on the ritz. Or the Iranian troll bots to work overtime on destroying her character.
    I'm not sure that you're up to date on boogeymen.  The Gates Foundation are the ones that are now pulling the strings on left wing Nazi activity.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Even is she truly does have no intention of bringing a lawsuit, would she really have no lawyer urging her to stay the hell off of Twitter?
    Yeah good point.  She would have a lawyer.  
    She's most likely being counseled by someone loosely connected to the Trump campaign...


    ... "most likely" you say.
    Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

    Roger Stone would be proud of the attention she's getting...
    I’m waiting for Soros or the Clinton Foundation to hire PIs to investigate Tara’s finances, phone records and personal connections and what, if any, are related to the Team Trump Treason campaign, supporters, RNC and/or Putin on the ritz. Or the Iranian troll bots to work overtime on destroying her character.
    I'm not sure that you're up to date on boogeymen.  The Gates Foundation are the ones that are now pulling the strings on left wing Nazi activity.  
    But I thought Gates was in a love triangle with Bezos and someone from inside the White House?
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    The Juggler said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Even is she truly does have no intention of bringing a lawsuit, would she really have no lawyer urging her to stay the hell off of Twitter?
    Yeah good point.  She would have a lawyer.  
    She's most likely being counseled by someone loosely connected to the Trump campaign...


    ... "most likely" you say.
    Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

    Roger Stone would be proud of the attention she's getting...
    I’m waiting for Soros or the Clinton Foundation to hire PIs to investigate Tara’s finances, phone records and personal connections and what, if any, are related to the Team Trump Treason campaign, supporters, RNC and/or Putin on the ritz. Or the Iranian troll bots to work overtime on destroying her character.
    I'm not sure that you're up to date on boogeymen.  The Gates Foundation are the ones that are now pulling the strings on left wing Nazi activity.  
    But I thought Gates was in a love triangle with Bezos and someone from inside the White House?
    That person in the WH is Deep State,  not MAGA.
  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    Tara Reade on HRC endorsing Biden-

    "I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I voted for her in the primary. I'm a lifelong Democrat. But yet, what I see now is someone enabling a sexual predator and it was my former boss, Joe Biden, who raped me," Reade told Fox News. "Hillary Clinton has a history of enabling powerful men to cover up their sexual predatory behaviors and their inappropriate sexual misconduct. We don't need that for this country. We don't need that for our new generation coming up that wants institutional rape culture to change."

    So she says she voted for Hillary in '16 despite her "history of enabling powerful men to cover up their sexual predatory behaviors...". She had no problem with her then, but now is criticizing her for endorsing Biden? You'd think someone who was actually sexually assaulted and really believes Hillary has that kind of history with sexual predators wouldn't even consider voting for her in the first place right? Weird...


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  • Gern Blansten
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    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    Tara Reade on HRC endorsing Biden-

    "I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I voted for her in the primary. I'm a lifelong Democrat. But yet, what I see now is someone enabling a sexual predator and it was my former boss, Joe Biden, who raped me," Reade told Fox News. "Hillary Clinton has a history of enabling powerful men to cover up their sexual predatory behaviors and their inappropriate sexual misconduct. We don't need that for this country. We don't need that for our new generation coming up that wants institutional rape culture to change."

    So she says she voted for Hillary in '16 despite her "history of enabling powerful men to cover up their sexual predatory behaviors...". She had no problem with her then, but now is criticizing her for endorsing Biden? You'd think someone who was actually sexually assaulted and really believes Hillary has that kind of history with sexual predators wouldn't even consider voting for her in the first place right? Weird...


    strange....and she said she didn't come out about Biden before because she had so much respect for him.

    Really?  Respected someone who assaulted her?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited April 2020
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    Men in group discussing how sexual assault victims should act, behave and feel for a sexual assault to have been taken place.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • nicknyr15
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Men in group discussing how sexual assault victims should act, behave and feel for a sexual assault to have been taken place.
    Same exact story comes out the same exact way, for someone they don’t support and it would be a lot different here. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Tara has also claimed that she filed the DC police report because of the online harassment after her interview on the podcast. I have yet to see the “online harassment” she’s suffered, despite it being repeatedly reported across a variety of media outlets.  I thought Twitter, Instagram, email, texts, blog posts or comments on online articles were “forever,” because they’re on the web? But she was able to delete her posts or tweets or whatever they were about praising Russia and Putin on the ritz. But she couldn’t hide them. Can anyone point me to the online harassment Tara claims?
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  • pjl44
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    I'm sitting this one out

  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    A question for people considering it being impossible this could have happend (or do not believe it atleast on some sort of scale from do not believe to believe), do you think Joe Biden should be asked about it?

    Journalists have asked Bernie, AOC, Stacey Abrahams, Gillibrand about it. Do you think Biden should get the question from a journalist about it and have to respond? Or do you think a response from the campaign is enough and journalists should accept that?


    And a question for people who do believe it could have happend, or believe it did happen but is still voting for Biden in November - do you think they should silence this as much as possible from now and throughout the campaign or do you think it should get all coverage now and it all get out into the open, and hopefully be rebuked or die down before November? Strategy wise.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    pjl44 said:

    I look forward to reviewing his campaign finance filings and seeing how much money comes from undisclosed sources or super pacs.
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  • CM189191
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    pjl44 said:

    Amash then added, "I will never be President and have no idea what I'm talking about."

    US politics are hyper-partisan BY DESIGN.  
  • CM189191
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    pjl44 said:
    CM189191 said:



    How strange....
    🙄
    Cheri Jacobus, another in a long line of reliable sources

    https://www.thewrap.com/usa-today-drops-columnist-cheri-jacobus-tweet-convicted-pedophile-jeffrey-epstein/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
    Let me know when Amash and his team go after tRUmp....
  • Lerxst1992
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    pjl44 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    pjl44 said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Would you vote for Biden if it's never proven to be true?

    Not proven to be false. Just never proven to be true.
    I'm not voting for Biden either way 
    What would it take to get you to vote for Biden?
    Pick Jared Polis as VP? The Democrats this cycle, Biden included, haven't really focused on issues that I look to them for - less militarism, criminal justice reform, drug policy. There's been much more of a focus on stuff I disagree with - government run health care to varying degrees, student loan forgiveness, etc. A lot of stuff that I think is bad economic policy.
    Thx for thoughtful answer.

    What would it take to get you to vote for Trump?
    I can't think of anything that could get me to vote for Trump

    Every vote for Amash would be in effect a vote for trump.

    I know you will point to history that Rs are more likely to vote libertarian.  But that's old world logic.

    In the current world Republicans fall in line. 2016 proved that. Ds need to fall in love. That's why dirty politics hurts Ds more.Amash is taking a huge risk and will only help trump

    We are already seeing the attempt to prevent Ds from falling in love with Biden with the actions of Tara Email Server Reade.

    She had 30 years to file charges, rally her "witnesses " or publicly attack Biden. But she doesnt attack til now.

    Why would that be? 
    I just crunched the numbers and every vote for Amash would be a vote for Amash

    how long does it take to crunch zero votes - I’ll be nice and give him 2.

    Perhaps he will get the one ED allocation in ME or KS. 2 electoral votes would be a miracle.

    We should buy you the beautiful blonde trump wig. And the Tara Reade memoirs, to commemorate these Election Day efforts for Donny Boy.


  • pjl44
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    I'm sitting this one out
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjl44 said:

    I look forward to reviewing his campaign finance filings and seeing how much money comes from undisclosed sources or super pacs.
    Piles and piles, hopefully. If you have leads on any who wanna dump some cash on the LP, please forward.
  • pjl44
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    I'm sitting this one out
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    CM189191 said:



    How strange....
    🙄
    Cheri Jacobus, another in a long line of reliable sources

    https://www.thewrap.com/usa-today-drops-columnist-cheri-jacobus-tweet-convicted-pedophile-jeffrey-epstein/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
    Let me know when Amash and his team go after tRUmp....
    Just read his Twitter feed for the last 3 years
  • pjl44
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    The Juggler said:
    Tara Reade on HRC endorsing Biden-

    "I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I voted for her in the primary. I'm a lifelong Democrat. But yet, what I see now is someone enabling a sexual predator and it was my former boss, Joe Biden, who raped me," Reade told Fox News. "Hillary Clinton has a history of enabling powerful men to cover up their sexual predatory behaviors and their inappropriate sexual misconduct. We don't need that for this country. We don't need that for our new generation coming up that wants institutional rape culture to change."

    So she says she voted for Hillary in '16 despite her "history of enabling powerful men to cover up their sexual predatory behaviors...". She had no problem with her then, but now is criticizing her for endorsing Biden? You'd think someone who was actually sexually assaulted and really believes Hillary has that kind of history with sexual predators wouldn't even consider voting for her in the first place right? Weird...


    strange....and she said she didn't come out about Biden before because she had so much respect for him.

    Really?  Respected someone who assaulted her?
    this doesn't pass the smell test.
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    Biden
    pjl44 said:

    i think amash is a plant by the trump administration.

    amash voted to impeach and he left the gop. trump is going to extend an olive branch and squash the beef, and right wing media is going to say "see, trump holds no ill will against him, how presidential." they will join forces to beat "the radical left". it will also be the "you don't change presidents during wartime" strategy, and amash will bring his tea party bona fides to help reel in the never trumpers within the gop. just watch.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,345
    I'm sitting this one out
    Gern Blansten said:
    The Juggler said:
    Tara Reade on HRC endorsing Biden-

    "I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I voted for her in the primary. I'm a lifelong Democrat. But yet, what I see now is someone enabling a sexual predator and it was my former boss, Joe Biden, who raped me," Reade told Fox News. "Hillary Clinton has a history of enabling powerful men to cover up their sexual predatory behaviors and their inappropriate sexual misconduct. We don't need that for this country. We don't need that for our new generation coming up that wants institutional rape culture to change."

    So she says she voted for Hillary in '16 despite her "history of enabling powerful men to cover up their sexual predatory behaviors...". She had no problem with her then, but now is criticizing her for endorsing Biden? You'd think someone who was actually sexually assaulted and really believes Hillary has that kind of history with sexual predators wouldn't even consider voting for her in the first place right? Weird...


    strange....and she said she didn't come out about Biden before because she had so much respect for him.

    Really?  Respected someone who assaulted her?

    https://ocrsm.umd.edu/files/Why-Is-Sexual-Assault-Under-Reported.pdf

    This is not uncommon, in fact it is more common not to come out after being sexually assaulted. We live in a fucked up world where the victims are shamed for how they handle being victimized, while according to this study 97% of the rapists walk free. Just think about what side of that argument you want to be on. It is very likely there are people on this forum that have been assaulted without speaking out and there are people on here who have done the assaulting and gotten away with it. It is a major problem that we only pretend to care about in this country, and when it includes prominent figures...forget about it.

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