Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • Posts: 9,215
    I'm sitting this one out
    JimmyV said:
    Believe all women but you are a "mouth-breather" if you believe this woman?
    I guess. Pretty disgusting but what do I know. 
  • Posts: 1,332
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    Look at the twitter account for yourself. It's quite odd.
    I totally agree it looks odd, but Reade has also spoken about her accusations. Why is her social media account (if it is even hers) the smoking gun? I was asking if he was presenting it as fact since that is obviously up for debate. No answer though, not surprised. 

  • Posts: 31,460
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Look at the twitter account for yourself. It's quite odd.
    Have you seen Trumps tweets?

    Have you listened to Bidens spoken sentences?

    Have you seen my texts on Messenger to my KISS Army friends when writing on my 3,5 inch big iPhone SE's keyboard?

    Have you seen how people write in general on Social Media?

    Etc. 


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Biden
    Have you seen Trumps tweets?

    Have you listened to Bidens spoken sentences?

    Have you seen my texts on Messenger to my KISS Army friends when writing on my 3,5 inch big iPhone SE's keyboard?

    Etc. 



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  • Posts: 13,576
    Biden
    Have you seen Trumps tweets?

    Have you listened to Bidens spoken sentences?

    Have you seen my texts on Messenger to my KISS Army friends when writing on my 3,5 inch big iPhone SE's keyboard?

    Have you seen how people write in general on Social Media?

    Etc. 


    Wait, whoa, hold up.

    There are other people who like KISS?
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  • St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    And where was she when Biden was running as VP?  A heartbeat away from the oval....why not then?

    I'm not going to grill that point; women don't always come forward quickly and there are legitimate reasons why she would be ready at this time and not in 2008, 2012, etc. 
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  • Posts: 31,460
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out

    Some posters insist the Tara Reade’s allegations haven’t been in the news or haven’t been given much press. The NYT, WaPo, Faux News, WSJ, USA Today, The Guardian and CNN have all reported on it. It this weren’t true, how would I know the following:

    Please provide a timeline, with when different outlets covered this. You are allowed to include the NYT article that was changed in coordination with the Biden campaign, and the WaPo article that added words when covering the filing to lessen the accusation. 

    1. The allegation was first picked up by a Pakistani news organization from an after mid night pod cast where Tara claimed she has, “been trying to tell her story since 1993.”

    2. That The Guardian reported that in a Commentary that Tara has been, “trying to tell her story for the past year.” Which is it?


    Are both of these direct quotes from Tara? Please provide sources. 

    3. The WaPo reported that her brother called or texted the reporter the following day after initially interviewing him that while he remembered his sister telling him about the inappropriate touching, nice legs comment and wanting her to serve cocktails, he just remembered that she also mentioned the alleged sexual assault. Wouldn’t you remember the latter before the former


    Don't know what this is about. 

    4. Also in The Guardian commentary, Tara claimed she, “had no intention of filing a civil suit.” Why is that?


    Ask her on twitter. She seems rather active.

    5. The NYT and WaPo reported that Tara recently filed a police report with the DC police but did not name Sleepy Woke Joe as the perpetrator but rather Sleepy Woke Joe is identified as Person #1. Why is that?


    Are you saying Tara told the police that her perpetrator was named "Person #1"? I would not believe any policeforce in the world would accept a police report where someone names their perpetrator as having the name "Person #1"

    Also, did you not claim she never filed a police report? Response to that?

    6. Tara remembers what she was wearing that day but she doesn’t remember where in the Senate or Capitol complex she delivered the duffle bag to or the area where the alleged assault took place other than to say, “a semi-private area.” Anyone here work on Capitol Hill in 1993 and be familiar with the Capitol Buildings, the security, access requirements, who’s allowed or authorized to go where, through which doors, elevators, etc? The Capitol Police staff that occupy security check points? Or the number of people that are typically around when the Senate or Congress is in session?


    Criminologist Leif GW Persson, and I'm translating and paraphrasing, "people telling the truth they forget, they miss details, they stumble and don't remember - people lying give you a detailed story"

    If this is a made up story -- why would Tara not give an exact location? Would be easy wouldn't it? Response to that?


    7. Tara has claimed that she filed a complaint with the Senate HR Office and Sleepy Woke Joe’s Chief of Staff. Therefore, wouldn’t there be a paper trail or someone from that office who would remember such a horrible allegation? Both of which could be compelled into evidence via a subpoena? Sleepy Woke Joe’s staff has already vigorously denied the allegation.


    This has been covered. The paper trail is up to Joe to release. Journalists have attested to it not being possible to get out willynilly. Shouldn't this be known to you - keeping up on all the reporting on this case?

    People from the office not remembering this, also claim to not remember Tara at all. But she has been proven to have worked there correct?

    - They do not remember her working there - but she did.
    - They do not remember this filing - but it...?

    8. Sleepy Woke Joe ran for the senate twice after the alleged incident, once for POTUS and twice for VP. Not a peep about the sexual assault allegations. From Tara or any other source prior to now. Odd, don’t you think?


    Where were all the allegations against e.g. Harvey Weinstein all these years? Where were all the allegations against e.g. Bill Cosby? Odd, don't you think?

    9. As someone else said and as Tara said, “she didn’t pursue it out of ‘respect’ for her former boss.” Odd thing to say if you were sexually assaulted, no?


    Why would it be? Are you a sexual assault victim? Can you climb into her head?

    As I have responded to @mrussel1 - it could be that she did not feel she could bear the burden of destroying his career, of destroying his family etc. 

    Both the kids who who were molested by Michael Jackson has claimed that they felt (or even feel) respect for him.

    Real life isn't a written episode of Ally McBeal.

    So much for it not being reported on.


    You are two weeks behind the curve with these remarks.


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Posts: 10,523
    I'm sitting this one out
    CM189191 said:
    Koch shoveling money to the LP? God, I hope BoomerDog is right.
  • Posts: 42,079
    Please provide a timeline, with when different outlets covered this. You are allowed to include the NYT article that was changed in coordination with the Biden campaign, and the WaPo article that added words when covering the filing to lessen the accusation. 


    Are both of these direct quotes from Tara? Please provide sources. 


    Don't know what this is about. 


    Ask her on twitter. She seems rather active.


    Are you saying Tara told the police that her perpetrator was named "Person #1"? I would not believe any policeforce in the world would accept a police report where someone names their perpetrator as having the name "Person #1"

    Also, did you not claim she never filed a police report? Response to that?


    Criminologist Leif GW Persson, and I'm translating and paraphrasing, "people telling the truth they forget, they miss details, they stumble and don't remember - people lying give you a detailed story"

    If this is a made up story -- why would Tara not give an exact location? Would be easy wouldn't it? Response to that?



    This has been covered. The paper trail is up to Joe to release. Journalists have attested to it not being possible to get out willynilly. Shouldn't this be known to you - keeping up on all the reporting on this case?

    People from the office not remembering this, also claim to not remember Tara at all. But she has been proven to have worked there correct?

    - They do not remember her working there - but she did.
    - They do not remember this filing - but it...?


    Where were all the allegations against e.g. Harvey Weinstein all these years? Where were all the allegations against e.g. Bill Cosby? Odd, don't you think?


    Why would it be? Are you a sexual assault victim? Can you climb into her head?

    As I have responded to @mrussel1 - it could be that she did not feel she could bear the burden of destroying his career, of destroying his family etc. 

    Both the kids who who were molested by Michael Jackson has claimed that they felt (or even feel) respect for him.

    Real life isn't a written episode of Ally McBeal.


    You are two weeks behind the curve with these remarks.


    Its all on the record if you've been following along. I'm not doing your work for you. You go back and read the NYT and WaPo and determine their timeline of investigating, podcast, Pakistani news report of same, etc. Tara didn't file a police report when the alleged incident happened and only did so in the last month or so. Please don't respond to me if you have nothing to add.
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    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Its all on the record if you've been following along. I'm not doing your work for you. You go back and read the NYT and WaPo and determine their timeline of investigating, podcast, Pakistani news report of same, etc. Tara didn't file a police report when the alleged incident happened and only did so in the last month or so. Please don't respond to me if you have nothing to add.
    There are questions in bold above, in my post. If you ever feel like responding, and your numbered questions not just being rhetorical. Otherwise, feel free to not. All good.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Posts: 42,079
    There are questions in bold above, in my post. If you ever feel like responding, and your numbered questions not just being rhetorical. Otherwise, feel free to not. All good.
    Everything you asked me is from links already posted, by me and others. If you don't have it in you to read the links, followed by my posts, up to present, that's on you. I'm not rehashing everything because you haven't been paying attention. The use of quotation marks usually indicate that the words within are attributed to the person being referenced. Again, in the linked articles posted by me and others. My numbered list are what has been reported, some of which are followed by my rhetorical question. Sorry that wasn't clear to you but again, I'm not rehashing it for you. You're smart enough to follow along.
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    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Yeah good point.  She would have a lawyer.  
    She's most likely being counseled by someone loosely connected to the Trump campaign...


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  • Posts: 31,460
    I'm sitting this one out
    She's most likely being counseled by someone loosely connected to the Trump campaign...


    ... "most likely" you say.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Posts: 10,523
    I'm sitting this one out
    ... "most likely" you say.
    Ha ha...I had the same thought and was like "ehhhhhhh...forget it"
  • Posts: 10,523
    I'm sitting this one out
    Poor ThoughtsArrive had his covid conspiracy theory thread nuked but we are fuckin waist deep in it around here the last couple days 
  • Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    ... "most likely" you say.
    Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

    Roger Stone would be proud of the attention she's getting...
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    Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

    Roger Stone would be proud of the attention she's getting...
    I’m waiting for Soros or the Clinton Foundation to hire PIs to investigate Tara’s finances, phone records and personal connections and what, if any, are related to the Team Trump Treason campaign, supporters, RNC and/or Putin on the ritz. Or the Iranian troll bots to work overtime on destroying her character.
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