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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    It's both. He needs to be asked about this and, if he continues not to be, he should at least issue a statement personally (which I assume/hope would be a categorical denial).

    Maybe Biden could go to Tara Reade's house and call her a liar to her face.  Would that settle it for you?
    That's just dumb. 
    Just pull up and give her the finger?
    Again?
    Too soon?
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,609
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    It's both. He needs to be asked about this and, if he continues not to be, he should at least issue a statement personally (which I assume/hope would be a categorical denial).

    Maybe Biden could go to Tara Reade's house and call her a liar to her face.  Would that settle it for you?
    That's just dumb. 
    Just pull up and give her the finger?
    Again?
    Too soon?
    Yeah.  Try later.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I'm sitting this one out
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    It's both. He needs to be asked about this and, if he continues not to be, he should at least issue a statement personally (which I assume/hope would be a categorical denial).

    Maybe Biden could go to Tara Reade's house and call her a liar to her face.  Would that settle it for you?
    That's just dumb. 
    Just pull up and give her the finger?
    Again?
    Too soon?
    Yeah.  Try later.
    So a couplefew more decades, then?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,986
    Sleepy Woke Joe ahead of the curve. 60% of layoffs are women and Team Trump Treason couldn’t read his statement regarding 55,000 dead Americans fast enough and in a more impersonal manner. POS doesn’t have an ounce of empathy.


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  • ICDragons
    ICDragons Posts: 39
    More disturbing than the Biden allegation is the way no one is talking about it. 

    Northam 
    Trudeau
    Clinton

    The mainstream media rarely covers these incidents as feverishly as others....

    Biden definitely should speak out. He needs to be better than the status quo.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Demanding Biden "address" something implies a formal statement or press conference, particularly if we are going to attack the press for not asking him about it. That is indeed a trap. The verbage wasn't "Biden needs to be asked about this." It would be a different conversation if it had been. The comment made was "Biden is gonna have to address it directly." It was about Biden doing something, not the press. 
    It's both. He needs to be asked about this and, if he continues not to be, he should at least issue a statement personally (which I assume/hope would be a categorical denial).

    Maybe Biden could go to Tara Reade's house and call her a liar to her face.  Would that settle it for you?
    That's just dumb. 
    Just pull up and give her the finger?
    Again?
    I laughed, but I'm a terrible person.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    ICDragons said:
    More disturbing than the Biden allegation is the way no one is talking about it. 

    Northam 
    Trudeau
    Clinton

    The mainstream media rarely covers these incidents as feverishly as others....

    Biden definitely should speak out. He needs to be better than the status quo.
    What about Northam? His approval rating in the immediate aftermath with AAs here in Virginia was 60%.  The white people cared about that way more than black people.  And he apologized.  
  • ICDragons
    ICDragons Posts: 39
    I understand that. 

    Just don’t think the media should give people a pass like the public sometimes does. 

    Personally imho Northam is a piece.
    Certain things people do that can’t be overlooked. 


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    ICDragons said:
    I understand that. 

    Just don’t think the media should give people a pass like the public sometimes does. 

    Personally imho Northam is a piece.
    Certain things people do that can’t be overlooked. 


    So his years of being a pediatrician and all of the charity care he's provided means nothing to you? He's only defined by an action as a college student in the 80s?  Are you proud of everything you did before you were 22?
  • ICDragons
    ICDragons Posts: 39
    Calm down. We aren’t talking about me. 

    You screw one goat. Never get a pass.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out


    @Halifax2TheMax - you still stand by these posts?



    @mrussel1 you still stand by Biden in this and that her accusations could just be about touching her neck?
    Post edited by Kat on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Believe women without a hesitation when it is a republican judge

    Believe Biden without a hesitation, who evidently had no problems treating women (like Anita Hill) during this period like they were second grade humans and sexual harassment wasn't anything of note, because reasons.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,986
    edited April 2020
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    @Halifax2TheMax - you still stand by these posts?



    @mrussel1 you still stand by Biden in this and that her accusations could just be about touching her neck?
    The former neighbor needs to be deposed. Shhhhhhhhh, it’s a, Tara “has no intention of filing a civil suit,” but she “wants her story told in a fair and objective manner,” a story she’s been “trying to tell since 1993,” or “for the past year,” whisper campaign.

    Could I walk into a police station in Stockholm or anywhere else in Sweden and make an allegation of sexual assault that occurred 8, 12 or 27 years ago? File a civil suit?

    #freejulianasstrange
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    @Halifax2TheMax - you still stand by these posts?



    @mrussel1 you still stand by Biden in this and that her accusations could just be about touching her neck?
    The former neighbor needs to be deposed. Shhhhhhhhh, it’s a, Tara “has no intention of filing a civil suit,” but she “wants her story told in a fair and objective manner,” a story she’s been “trying to tell since 1993,” or “for the past year,” whisper campaign.

    Could I walk into a police station in Stockholm or anywhere else in Sweden and make an allegation of sexual assault that occurred 8, 12 or 27 years ago? File a civil suit?

    #freejulianasstrange
    Keep scrambling. 
    Post edited by Kat on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,986
    edited April 2020
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    @Halifax2TheMax - you still stand by these posts?



    @mrussel1 you still stand by Biden in this and that her accusations could just be about touching her neck?
    The former neighbor needs to be deposed. Shhhhhhhhh, it’s a, Tara “has no intention of filing a civil suit,” but she “wants her story told in a fair and objective manner,” a story she’s been “trying to tell since 1993,” or “for the past year,” whisper campaign.

    Could I walk into a police station in Stockholm or anywhere else in Sweden and make an allegation of sexual assault that occurred 8, 12 or 27 years ago? File a civil suit?

    #freejulianasstrange
    Keep scrambling. 
    Why are you avoiding answering my question? Keep deflecting. Need more inconsistencies pointed out?

    You believe Julian, don’t you? Why?
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    @Kat and @Halifax2TheMax - you still stand by these posts?



    @mrussel1 you still stand by Biden in this and that her accusations could just be about touching her neck?
    The former neighbor needs to be deposed. Shhhhhhhhh, it’s a, Tara “has no intention of filing a civil suit,” but she “wants her story told in a fair and objective manner,” a story she’s been “trying to tell since 1993,” or “for the past year,” whisper campaign.

    Could I walk into a police station in Stockholm or anywhere else in Sweden and make an allegation of sexual assault that occurred 8, 12 or 27 years ago? File a civil suit?

    #freejulianasstrange
    Keep scrambling. 
    Why are you avoiding answering my question? Keep deflecting. Need more inconsistencies pointed out?

    You believe Julian, don’t you? Why?

    I take it you still stand by your post.

    Thank you.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,445
    I'm sitting this one out

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,986
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:


    @Kat and @Halifax2TheMax - you still stand by these posts?



    @mrussel1 you still stand by Biden in this and that her accusations could just be about touching her neck?
    The former neighbor needs to be deposed. Shhhhhhhhh, it’s a, Tara “has no intention of filing a civil suit,” but she “wants her story told in a fair and objective manner,” a story she’s been “trying to tell since 1993,” or “for the past year,” whisper campaign.

    Could I walk into a police station in Stockholm or anywhere else in Sweden and make an allegation of sexual assault that occurred 8, 12 or 27 years ago? File a civil suit?

    #freejulianasstrange
    Keep scrambling. 
    Why are you avoiding answering my question? Keep deflecting. Need more inconsistencies pointed out?

    You believe Julian, don’t you? Why?
    I don't understand half of the sentences you fill up your posts with. This has been brought up before. Maybe native english speaking people do it better. But please continue with your diction gimmick if it makes you happy.

    I take it you still stand by your post.

    Thank you.
    Thanks for the word salad response and continued avoidance of my question. You a playa?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Because Twitter determines guilt or innocence or liability?

    Do you believe Julian?
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  • JimmyV
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    Biden
    Kavanaugh is a false equivalency. At the time of his nomination to the Supreme Court he was a relative unknown to most of us. Joe Biden is not. He has been a household name for decades, is a three time presidential candidate and a two term Vice President. He served in the US Senate for years. He has been vetted both by Republican opposition research and Obama's people before they put him on the ticket. Yet...this has never come up.

    None of us know what happened, and maybe this is true, but comparing Biden to Kavanaugh and pretending they are the same is a convenient delusion. It will score you points when arguing on the internet, but that has never made anything true.
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