2020 Fall North American rumour thread

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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    It all depends when there’s a treatment, a vaccine, or herd immunity.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,072
    Exactly. Speculation without any of those is pointless. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • afgpj
    afgpj Upstate NY Posts: 142
    NYC has the worst outbreak in the country.  They've cancelled concerts, etc. through June. - https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/20/new-york-city-cancels-summer-festivals-concerts-and-parades-through-june.html
    We will know within the next 2-3 months if there will be any shows in 2020   
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,022
    Life is Beautiful festival, Sept 18-20, has been canceled

    This is the first fall festival canceled as far as I am aware of and puts some bad writing on the wall for any 2020 shows
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471

  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    Sanitize the arena's. Have everyone wear a mask. And make hand sanitizer available. Let the show begin!
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    joseph33 said:
    Sanitize the arena's. Have everyone wear a mask. And make hand sanitizer available. Let the show begin!
    It kills me to say it but I think large indoor events will be the last thing we get back
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    pjl44 said:
    joseph33 said:
    Sanitize the arena's. Have everyone wear a mask. And make hand sanitizer available. Let the show begin!
    It kills me to say it but I think large indoor events will be the last thing we get back
    This is becoming increasingly evident.  Hopefully there will be a treatment breakthrough before too long.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • 3days
    3days Posts: 1,200
    Just got an email that the following September Louisville, KY festivals have been cancelled:
    Hometown Rising
    Louder Than Life
    Bourbon & Beyond

    All 3 are hopeful to return in 2021.
  • hihobibo
    hihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,140
    Paul McCartney called into Stern last week, and he brought up a chilling point. There are some artists who we may never see play a live show again, due to this virus changing the ways shows are put on, and the delays to their current tours. In addition, there are bands who cannot get that big break right now, and their chance at stardom may be gone.
  • Melzombie
    Melzombie Charleston, SC Posts: 200
    Do you guys think smaller, theatre venue shows will be allowed in the later part of the year? with certain measures, of course. Obviously this won't work with PJ, but just curious. 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,914
    Melzombie said:
    Do you guys think smaller, theatre venue shows will be allowed in the later part of the year? with certain measures, of course. Obviously this won't work with PJ, but just curious. 

    I'm not sure how.  Similar to seats in arena, all the seats in a theatre are right next to each other.   The only real difference being there might only be 1000 to 3000 people for it to spread instead of 18000 at an arena.

    If you have to social distance they would have to space seats out by 1 or 2 empty ones between every person.

    The only way I see them happening is if our goal changes.   From flattening the curve to herd immunity.   It's not good for keep the curve flat, it's not so bad for herd immunity,

  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Our best case scenario here is that the virus was among us much longer than we had hoped, and most people werent symptomatic, and that the antibodies provide some immunity, and with that, the herd immunity.  That is a LOT of iffs, and it really is the best case scenario. 

    The next best case is that we get a vaccine (remember, a lot of viruses that have been around for a long time still dont have vaccines), and that we buy enough time to get an effective treatment, so that critical cases go down to almost nothing.  
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Oh, i meant to say....hoping for Fall concerts is a pipe dream. If it happens, great, wonderful.    But dont count on it.  We need to hit 35 other milestones before we get to concerts. 
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    Or sell 10k seats in a NFL stadium, leaving 5 of every 6 seats empty, but why bother.  We need the medical community to come up with a treatment.  For health first.  But also for fun things like shows.  They’re working on it.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    kst said:
    Or sell 10k seats in a NFL stadium, leaving 5 of every 6 seats empty, but why bother.  We need the medical community to come up with a treatment.  For health first.  But also for fun things like shows.  They’re working on it.
    Right, i mean, why risk it, why bother if this is what is going on at the time.  

    I would pay $$$ for a live studio event though.  I'm sure they could socially distance.  And raise money for charity.  But we are still a bit away from this too. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,088
    edited April 2020
    Zod said:
    Melzombie said:
    Do you guys think smaller, theatre venue shows will be allowed in the later part of the year? with certain measures, of course. Obviously this won't work with PJ, but just curious. 

    I'm not sure how.  Similar to seats in arena, all the seats in a theatre are right next to each other.   The only real difference being there might only be 1000 to 3000 people for it to spread instead of 18000 at an arena.

    If you have to social distance they would have to space seats out by 1 or 2 empty ones between every person.

    The only way I see them happening is if our goal changes.   From flattening the curve to herd immunity.   It's not good for keep the curve flat, it's not so bad for herd immunity,



    What's the difference between a 2000 seat theater and a large office building with thousands going thru the elevators or a large school with hundreds walking the halls?

    It seems once they open the necessities like work and school they might as let us have shows.
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    kst said:
    Or sell 10k seats in a NFL stadium, leaving 5 of every 6 seats empty, but why bother.  We need the medical community to come up with a treatment.  For health first.  But also for fun things like shows.  They’re working on it.

    And then people sit next to their friends and family anyway.
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  • Torontonian
    Torontonian Posts: 562
    edited April 2020
    Let’s work on life getting back (and that will be slow methodically chunks) before we can even talk about concerts.  But I do passionately miss them.  Man I know for one I will appreciate things more after this.  We gotta get some good out of this. ❤️
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,072
    Zod said:
    Melzombie said:
    Do you guys think smaller, theatre venue shows will be allowed in the later part of the year? with certain measures, of course. Obviously this won't work with PJ, but just curious. 

    I'm not sure how.  Similar to seats in arena, all the seats in a theatre are right next to each other.   The only real difference being there might only be 1000 to 3000 people for it to spread instead of 18000 at an arena.

    If you have to social distance they would have to space seats out by 1 or 2 empty ones between every person.

    The only way I see them happening is if our goal changes.   From flattening the curve to herd immunity.   It's not good for keep the curve flat, it's not so bad for herd immunity,



    What's the difference between a 2000 seat theater and a large office building with thousands going thru the elevators or a large school with hundreds walking the halls?

    It seems once they open the necessities like work and school they might as let us have shows.
    That’s not happening anytime soon either. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.