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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
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  • rgambs
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    Hahaha both hilarious!
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  • josevolution
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    nicknyr15 said:
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Fighting for that Swedish freedom, like democratic primary voters should have




    Not all heroes wear capes if I was there I’d be standing 6’ from him in unity as for that vile idiot that passes for a woman is a creep all of this is the Baffoons fault !
    I agree with the first part. But saying people like this woman didn’t exist before 2016 is just not true 
    I didn’t say that only that it’s the Baffoons fault he’s instigating it every day! Yeah racist like her have been around for as long as this country has been around ..

    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • CM189191
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    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    They definitely have legitimate gripes, but I think the way they went about it is counterproductive. Blocking streets, big crowds, etc. Takes the attention away from the crazy stuff you referenced and puts it squarely on their actions. 
    I agree with your point. But have you ever seen an effective protest that consists of 2 or 3 people spread out? If they weren’t doing that stuff no one would take. Price. By doing it they are putting the attention on them and not the protest. Catch 22 I guess.



    Thousands of Israelis protest against Netanyahu, two meters apart
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/middleeast/israel-protest-social-distancing-intl/index.html
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    They definitely have legitimate gripes, but I think the way they went about it is counterproductive. Blocking streets, big crowds, etc. Takes the attention away from the crazy stuff you referenced and puts it squarely on their actions. 
    I agree with your point. But have you ever seen an effective protest that consists of 2 or 3 people spread out? If they weren’t doing that stuff no one would take. Price. By doing it they are putting the attention on them and not the protest. Catch 22 I guess.
    At a bare minimum, I'd say don't block roads and cover your faces. I agree that it would be tricky to properly distance. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    edited April 2020
    Edit: My post was no-longer timely.

    We don't know what the crazed woman in Colorado is going through (job loss, etc.). But we do know that what the medical professionals are going through is harrowing and if they see these protests as amounting to "heighten the curve and bring more people to the hospitals" I don't blame them. Kudos to this guy.  And it's courageous...because I would not have been surprised if the driver had just floored it.  (and then been acquitted).
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited April 2020
    Edit: My post was responding to a post that was deemed no longer timely.
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  • tbergs
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    edited April 2020
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    It's a hopeless situation...
  • F Me In The Brain
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    It appears many of us were going to respond to posts that got edited :)
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,445
    Seriously?
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/idaho-representative-compares-lockdown-to-nazi-treatment-of-jews/
  • ICDragons
    ICDragons Posts: 39
    Haven’t read all of this thread but anyone talk about the positive environmental impact of Covid-19?

    its an upside.
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    nicknyr15 said:
    Seriously?
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/idaho-representative-compares-lockdown-to-nazi-treatment-of-jews/

    The State of Minnesota is constructing gas chambers right now. 
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  • mace1229
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    rgambs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    I think you are lending your thinking brain to some real empty heads.  If you watch these protests they are full of people without 2 brain cells to rub together.
    Just another opportunity to strap on the retail tactical gear and stick it to the libs.

    I’ve seen far more examples of protests without the use of any gear. Many more are using their cars to social distance or holding up signs.
  • mace1229
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    CM189191 said:
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    They definitely have legitimate gripes, but I think the way they went about it is counterproductive. Blocking streets, big crowds, etc. Takes the attention away from the crazy stuff you referenced and puts it squarely on their actions. 
    I agree with your point. But have you ever seen an effective protest that consists of 2 or 3 people spread out? If they weren’t doing that stuff no one would take. Price. By doing it they are putting the attention on them and not the protest. Catch 22 I guess.



    Thousands of Israelis protest against Netanyahu, two meters apart
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/middleeast/israel-protest-social-distancing-intl/index.html
    While I’ve seen examples of people not doing that, I’ve seen more examples of people following social distancing while protesting too. That’s why people are protesting from their cars. And on the streets most of the time it looks like small groups of 2 or 3 spread out, which I assume to small group are from the same household. So again social distancing. Not all, but it seems like most.
    And I don’t blame them, if I had a business that was about to go under and lose my way of living that I thought could be saved, I’d probably protest too.
    There seems to be very little thought and reason into what is considered essential or not.
  • DewieCox
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    “SEEMS to be very little thought” 
  • pjl44
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    ICDragons said:
    Haven’t read all of this thread but anyone talk about the positive environmental impact of Covid-19?

    its an upside.
    It's temporary so any impact will be negligible in the long run. Also, if I were an environmental activist, I'd be careful about associating upside with a time when people are sick, miserable, and/or suffering financially. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    pjl44 said:
    ICDragons said:
    Haven’t read all of this thread but anyone talk about the positive environmental impact of Covid-19?

    its an upside.
    It's temporary so any impact will be negligible in the long run. Also, if I were an environmental activist, I'd be careful about associating upside with a time when people are sick, miserable, and/or suffering financially. 
    The morning news said there was a record number of sea turtles laying eggs on the beach because of the virus. I though exactly what you just said. 
  • CM189191
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    mace1229 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    They definitely have legitimate gripes, but I think the way they went about it is counterproductive. Blocking streets, big crowds, etc. Takes the attention away from the crazy stuff you referenced and puts it squarely on their actions. 
    I agree with your point. But have you ever seen an effective protest that consists of 2 or 3 people spread out? If they weren’t doing that stuff no one would take. Price. By doing it they are putting the attention on them and not the protest. Catch 22 I guess.



    Thousands of Israelis protest against Netanyahu, two meters apart
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/middleeast/israel-protest-social-distancing-intl/index.html
    While I’ve seen examples of people not doing that, I’ve seen more examples of people following social distancing while protesting too. That’s why people are protesting from their cars. And on the streets most of the time it looks like small groups of 2 or 3 spread out, which I assume to small group are from the same household. So again social distancing. Not all, but it seems like most.
    And I don’t blame them, if I had a business that was about to go under and lose my way of living that I thought could be saved, I’d probably protest too.
    There seems to be very little thought and reason into what is considered essential or not.

    I completely agree.  There are a lot of people who think they a essential, when there are plenty of reasons why they are not.  Must be a real blow to the ego when people realize they are expendable to a functioning society.  
  • tbergs
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    mace1229 said:
    pjl44 said:
    ICDragons said:
    Haven’t read all of this thread but anyone talk about the positive environmental impact of Covid-19?

    its an upside.
    It's temporary so any impact will be negligible in the long run. Also, if I were an environmental activist, I'd be careful about associating upside with a time when people are sick, miserable, and/or suffering financially. 
    The morning news said there was a record number of sea turtles laying eggs on the beach because of the virus. I though exactly what you just said. 
    Whatever is being saved in one regards, is being destroyed in another. The amount of personal waste being generated right now has to be astronomical. All of the masks, plastics and everything else being used to disinfect and clean is going straight to landfills. Yes, animals are probably getting a little more freedom these days though so I guess that is a bonus. Might also just mean more inadvertent deaths from cars and people once the battles resumes between the beasts (human and wild).
    It's a hopeless situation...
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