The coronavirus

pjl44

mace1229 said:

pjl44 said:

ICDragons said:

Haven’t read all of this thread but anyone talk about the positive environmental impact of Covid-19?

its an upside.

It's temporary so any impact will be negligible in the long run. Also, if I were an environmental activist, I'd be careful about associating upside with a time when people are sick, miserable, and/or suffering financially. 

The morning news said there was a record number of sea turtles laying eggs on the beach because of the virus. I though exactly what you just said. 

I'm sure it was a beautiful scene

tbergs

pjl44 said:

mace1229 said:

pjl44 said:

ICDragons said:

Haven’t read all of this thread but anyone talk about the positive environmental impact of Covid-19?

its an upside.

It's temporary so any impact will be negligible in the long run. Also, if I were an environmental activist, I'd be careful about associating upside with a time when people are sick, miserable, and/or suffering financially. 

The morning news said there was a record number of sea turtles laying eggs on the beach because of the virus. I though exactly what you just said. 

I'm sure it was a beautiful scene

Now that, is hilarious! Haha!

ICDragons

I definitely understand that this is only temporary.
 

Just pointing out that the virus can be seen as environmentally friendly. 

Humans are most certainly not.

pjl44

tbergs said:

mace1229 said:

pjl44 said:

ICDragons said:

Haven’t read all of this thread but anyone talk about the positive environmental impact of Covid-19?

its an upside.

It's temporary so any impact will be negligible in the long run. Also, if I were an environmental activist, I'd be careful about associating upside with a time when people are sick, miserable, and/or suffering financially. 

The morning news said there was a record number of sea turtles laying eggs on the beach because of the virus. I though exactly what you just said. 

Whatever is being saved in one regards, is being destroyed in another. The amount of personal waste being generated right now has to be astronomical. All of the masks, plastics and everything else being used to disinfect and clean is going straight to landfills. Yes, animals are probably getting a little more freedom these days though so I guess that is a bonus. Might also just mean more inadvertent deaths from cars and people once the battles resumes between the beasts (human and wild).

Yeah, to your point auto claims are way down and most insurers are offering refunds and credits.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2020/04/16/coronavirus-relief-how-get-your-car-insurance-refunds/2990448001/

pjl44

Which took longer: The first pro-virus commenter here or the first pro-Trump commenter in the election thread?

Bentleyspop

josevolution said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Fighting for that Swedish freedom, like democratic primary voters should have

https://twitter.com/MarcZenn/status/1251975162926227457?s=20

Not all heroes wear capes if I was there I’d be standing 6’ from him in unity as for that vile idiot that passes for a woman is a creep all of this is the Baffoons fault !

I agree with the first part. But saying people like this woman didn’t exist before 2016 is just not true 

I didn’t say that only that it’s the Baffoons fault he’s instigating it every day! Yeah racist like her have been around for as long as this country has been around ..

Racists have been around forever and well hidden for the last 50 years or so.
But the current regime allows and encourages racists, xenophobes, white nationalists,  white supremacists to be loud and proud .

And as long as people support and vote for the current regime the racists will continue to emboldened. 

ICDragons

How about this

the positive effect of Covid-19 on the economy 

it’s a two for...

environmental and stopping Trump from being re elected!

23scidoo

Spiritual_Chaos said:

23scidoo said:

As i said in the past @Spiritual_Chaos, your country walks the wrong road..money over humans..

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy

What do you mean "money over humans" ?

You can't stop the care of the elders. And there is a severe lack of protective gear the world over.

The Public Health Agency does not have money as a metric unless it is a factor affecting public health - and politicians follow the Pubich Health Agency in Sweden.

I mean, kids must go to schools, so their parents can work..bars, restaurants open so money can move..

Sweden population,  10.23 million people
first case, 31 January
confirmed cases, 14777
first death, 11 March
confirmed deaths, 1580


Greece population  10.72 million people
first case, 26 February
confirmed cases, 2245
first death, 12 March
confirmed deaths, 116

the numbers are talk my friend..
i don't think we have better health system than Sweden or better state..
so, something is wrong there..
no friction yeah??

OnWis97

CM189191 said:

mace1229 said:

CM189191 said:

mace1229 said:

pjl44 said:

mace1229 said:

Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.

They definitely have legitimate gripes, but I think the way they went about it is counterproductive. Blocking streets, big crowds, etc. Takes the attention away from the crazy stuff you referenced and puts it squarely on their actions. 

I agree with your point. But have you ever seen an effective protest that consists of 2 or 3 people spread out? If they weren’t doing that stuff no one would take. Price. By doing it they are putting the attention on them and not the protest. Catch 22 I guess.

Thousands of Israelis protest against Netanyahu, two meters apart
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/middleeast/israel-protest-social-distancing-intl/index.html

While I’ve seen examples of people not doing that, I’ve seen more examples of people following social distancing while protesting too. That’s why people are protesting from their cars. And on the streets most of the time it looks like small groups of 2 or 3 spread out, which I assume to small group are from the same household. So again social distancing. Not all, but it seems like most.
And I don’t blame them, if I had a business that was about to go under and lose my way of living that I thought could be saved, I’d probably protest too.
There seems to be very little thought and reason into what is considered essential or not.

I completely agree.  There are a lot of people who think they a essential, when there are plenty of reasons why they are not.  Must be a real blow to the ego when people realize they are expendable to a functioning society.  

I am nothing if not non-essential.

Ledbetterman10

Now they’re protesting in Harrisburg, PA (my state). Looks like hundreds of people 

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1252258312185405440?s=21

This shot is just in front of the capital. But they’re lining the street that leads to it. 

wndowpayne

Beaches reopening is blowing my mind..

gimmesometruth27

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

mace1229 said:

pjl44 said:

ICDragons said:

Haven’t read all of this thread but anyone talk about the positive environmental impact of Covid-19?

its an upside.

It's temporary so any impact will be negligible in the long run. Also, if I were an environmental activist, I'd be careful about associating upside with a time when people are sick, miserable, and/or suffering financially. 

The morning news said there was a record number of sea turtles laying eggs on the beach because of the virus. I though exactly what you just said. 

I'm sure it was a beautiful scene

Now that, is hilarious! Haha!

the facial expression is fantastic!

rgambs

Does anybody else automatically think "crackpot dumbass" every time they see a Don't Tread on Me flag?

gimmesometruth27

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Fighting for that Swedish freedom, like democratic primary voters should have

https://twitter.com/MarcZenn/status/1251975162926227457?s=20

this woman is the mother of all karens. the one you have to fight when you have vanquished all of the others.

dankind

rgambs said:

Does anybody else automatically think "crackpot dumbass" every time they see a Don't Tread on Me flag?

I always just think of Mexico's flag, which is a blatant "fuck you" to the old "don't tread on me" US flag.

josevolution

gimmesometruth27 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Fighting for that Swedish freedom, like democratic primary voters should have

https://twitter.com/MarcZenn/status/1251975162926227457?s=20

this woman is the mother of all karens. the one you have to fight when you have vanquished all of the others.

She would kill someone for the last roll of toilet paper..

gimmesometruth27

gimmesometruth27

rgambs said:

Does anybody else automatically think "crackpot dumbass" every time they see a Don't Tread on Me flag?

i typically think of someone who is raging against the government while being on some sort of government assistance. food stamps, medicare/medicaid, on disability, etc. angry at the world, angry at the government. blaming the government for their lot in life while holding they hand open for government assistance. the top of the chain of hypocrites.

F Me In The Brain

gimmesometruth27 said:

rgambs said:

Does anybody else automatically think "crackpot dumbass" every time they see a Don't Tread on Me flag?

i typically think of someone who is raging against the government while being on some sort of government assistance. food stamps, medicare/medicaid, on disability, etc. angry at the world, angry at the government. blaming the government for their lot in life while holding they hand open for government assistance. the top of the chain of hypocrites.

I laughed out loud at this.  And, agreed.

pjl44

When they say Trump has enabled bigots, it's across a much wider spectrum than most people realize