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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    edited April 2020
    23scidoo said:
    As i said in the past @Spiritual_Chaos, your country walks the wrong road..money over humans..

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy

    What do you mean "money over humans" ?

    You can't stop the care of the elders. And there is a severe lack of protective gear the world over.

    The Public Health Agency does not have money as a metric unless it is a factor affecting public health - and politicians follow the Pubich Health Agency in Sweden.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    Norway is opening up - stores open, kids go back to school. Hopefully it goes well.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Lack of leadership is a huge problem as told here:

    "These problems might be surmountable. The U.S. is still a scientific and biomedical powerhouse. To marshal that power, it needs a massive, coordinated, government-led initiative to find the cleverest ways of controlling COVID-19—a modern-day Apollo program. No such program is afoot. Former Trump- and Obama-era officials have published detailed plans. Elizabeth Warren is on her third iteration. But the White House either has no strategy or has chosen not to disclose it.

    Without a unifying vision, governors and mayors have been forced to handle the pandemic themselves. Ludicrously, states are bidding against one another—and the federal government—for precious supplies. Six states still haven’t issued any kind of stay-at-home order, while those that moved late, such as Florida, may have seeded infections in the rest of the country. “A patchwork approach to fighting a pandemic is very dangerous,” said Jeremy Konyndyk of the Center for Global Development. “It’s a recipe for a response that’s less than the sum of its parts.” While several states have created their own coordinated groups, Konyndyk’s worry, shared by others, is that there are limits to what even the most capable state leaders can do without federal coordination. “We almost need to devise a public-health government in exile which can take on the responsibility of national coordination,” said Osterholm, the University of Minnesota epidemiologist.


    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/pandemic-summer-coronavirus-reopening-back-normal/609940/



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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    Fighting for that Swedish freedom, like democratic primary voters should have




    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • guypjfreak
    guypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    I think it's to early to just reopen yet.. But I can't wait for this to happen.. I just want it to be over but be as safe as it can be and at this moment it's not safe enough.. On that note stay safe everyone.. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    https://youtu.be/dRFbwjwQ4VE
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Fighting for that Swedish freedom, like democratic primary voters should have




    Not all heroes wear capes if I was there I’d be standing 6’ from him in unity as for that vile idiot that passes for a woman is a creep all of this is the Baffoons fault !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    what dreams said:
    bbiggs said:
    I saw a stat yesterday that alcohol sales were up ~55% in the month of March.  Staying at home = higher alcohol intake.
    Or people were just spending double the amount on expensive bar tabs for the same amount of alcohol
    If you know of a bar that only charges double please let me know!
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    cutz said:

    Did anyone ask him what sort of person sells 150 units to a single customer?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    The CEO of this hospital sent out an email that on the week of the 24th of May every employee will receive a check for $2400 and i week of paid PTO , pretty classy I’d say this hospital is not a state run hospital...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    josevolution said:
    The CEO of this hospital sent out an email that on the week of the 24th of May every employee will receive a check for $2400 and i week of paid PTO , pretty classy I’d say this hospital is not a state run hospital...
    Very well deserved!!
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    Stay at home.
    Not that difficult to understand.
    I agree that the booze selling is something that should not be considered essential.
    Those people should stay at home too.

    The way the people are protesting is idiotic.  
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    They definitely have legitimate gripes, but I think the way they went about it is counterproductive. Blocking streets, big crowds, etc. Takes the attention away from the crazy stuff you referenced and puts it squarely on their actions. 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    I think you are lending your thinking brain to some real empty heads.  If you watch these protests they are full of people without 2 brain cells to rub together.
    Just another opportunity to strap on the retail tactical gear and stick it to the libs.

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    rgambs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    I think you are lending your thinking brain to some real empty heads.  If you watch these protests they are full of people without 2 brain cells to rub together.
    Just another opportunity to strap on the retail tactical gear and stick it to the libs.


    yup.  We are not hearing any well reasoned debates from these yahoos.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    mace1229 said:
    cutz said:

    Did anyone ask him what sort of person sells 150 units to a single customer?
    Exactly.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,216
    josevolution said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Fighting for that Swedish freedom, like democratic primary voters should have




    Not all heroes wear capes if I was there I’d be standing 6’ from him in unity as for that vile idiot that passes for a woman is a creep all of this is the Baffoons fault !
    I agree with the first part. But saying people like this woman didn’t exist before 2016 is just not true 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    pjl44 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    They definitely have legitimate gripes, but I think the way they went about it is counterproductive. Blocking streets, big crowds, etc. Takes the attention away from the crazy stuff you referenced and puts it squarely on their actions. 
    I agree with your point. But have you ever seen an effective protest that consists of 2 or 3 people spread out? If they weren’t doing that stuff no one would take. Price. By doing it they are putting the attention on them and not the protest. Catch 22 I guess.
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