The coronavirus

Spiritual_Chaos · April 2020

PARIS (Reuters) - Being overweight is a major risk for people infected with the new coronavirus and the United States is particularly vulnerable because of high obesity levels there, France’s chief epidemiologist said on Wednesday.

Professor Jean-François Delfraissy, who heads the scientific council that advises the government on the epidemic, said as many as 17 million of France’s 67 million citizens were seriously at risk from the coronavirus because of age, pre-existing illness or obesity.

“This virus is terrible, it can hit young people, in particular obese young people. Those who are overweight really need to be careful,” Delfraissy told franceinfo radio.

“That is why we’re worried about our friends in America, where the problem of obesity is well known and where they will probably have the most problems because of obesity.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-france-confinement/obesity-is-major-covid-19-risk-factor-says-french-chief-epidemiologist-idUSKBN21Q0S7

cutz · April 2020

mfc2006 said:

CM189191 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i saw that new unemployment claims are at 6.6 million. trump has the best numbers.

6.6 million on TOP of the previous 10 million. Team Trump Treason has the best, biggest, most beautiful and incredible numbers. Brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy. Some might call it 3D chess.

there's always a tweet

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237498359134466051?s=20

what a fucking moron.

Yes, but like my Dad use to say: He's morOff then morOn

Spiritual_Chaos · April 2020

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Swedish corona care has since day one suffered a great lack of protective equipment.
At the end of March-April, the first aircraft loads of material from China began to land in Sweden.

But among the materials that have been flown in are products that do not measure up.

- It is pure counterfeiting and piracy sold to the regions right now. This is also why it is difficult to screen between all volunteers who want to help with equipment. We cannot separate the serious from those who want to make money, says a source in government Sweden who works with coordination in the corona crisis.

It's also my understanding that by not encouraging physical distancing better, Sweden is also suffering a great lack of common sense.

I'm seeing more common sense being communicated at the Swedish daily national press briefings (without a politician in sight I might add - how about that), then from the show your President and his Pence-buddy are putting on every night.

Could things be done better? Yes. Could they be in the US?. Yes. Is it wrong balancing all factors of public health when dealing with this? No. Is Sweden stealing other companies supplies on the runway? No. Is it common sense to not do that? Yes.

https://instagram.com/p/B-soXYtJvrZ/embed/

I must admit that my talking about what isn't working is not as useful as talking about what is working. Maybe what we should do is look at who is doing things that are working. California's governor Newsom is a great example of someone doing that right things. He gives daily updates at 12 noon Pacific time that always include good information, useful ideas and words of encouragement. Same thing with New York's governor Cuomo. As Smellyman has pointed out, Taiwan is also doing it right. If more states and countries had those kinds of leaders, this thing would not be as awful as it is.

Taiwan controlled their citizens very much (monitoring them through their phones etc if I am remembering it correctly). Personal liberty and rights of a citizen might trump what they did and them "doing it right" is up for debate with those factors playing a part.

Welding the doors of citizens stops the spread too. Is it "right" to do it?

Etc.

I understand one might feel different coming from country of "the patriot act" and such. But just saying it is not that cut and dry.

Sweden is balancing other factors concerning public health to this -- mass unemployment, a collapsing health care system etc etc etc.

Sweden does not think isolating and forcing people works long term, and they have chosen a method they believe work long term from the get go and not just for a very limited amount of time.

Right or wrong - every one is working towards the same goal, to flatten the curve in the best way possible and get pass this pandemic.

I don't come from the country of the patriot act. I come from this country:

No angels sang the night I started to walk
A cogwheelsboy without any goal
Hand in hand we went equally scared
Sometimes we tried to speak
But most often not more than a word or two

DewieCox · April 2020

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Swedish corona care has since day one suffered a great lack of protective equipment.
At the end of March-April, the first aircraft loads of material from China began to land in Sweden.

But among the materials that have been flown in are products that do not measure up.

- It is pure counterfeiting and piracy sold to the regions right now. This is also why it is difficult to screen between all volunteers who want to help with equipment. We cannot separate the serious from those who want to make money, says a source in government Sweden who works with coordination in the corona crisis.

It's also my understanding that by not encouraging physical distancing better, Sweden is also suffering a great lack of common sense.

I'm seeing more common sense being communicated at the Swedish daily national press briefings (without a politician in sight I might add - how about that), then from the show your President and his Pence-buddy are putting on every night.

Could things be done better? Yes. Could they be in the US?. Yes. Is it wrong balancing all factors of public health when dealing with this? No. Is Sweden stealing other companies supplies on the runway? No. Is it common sense to not do that? Yes.

https://instagram.com/p/B-soXYtJvrZ/embed/

Why post shit like this? Aren’t we in this together? Stop keeping score, we’re all losing.

Spiritual_Chaos · April 2020

DewieCox said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Swedish corona care has since day one suffered a great lack of protective equipment.
At the end of March-April, the first aircraft loads of material from China began to land in Sweden.

But among the materials that have been flown in are products that do not measure up.

- It is pure counterfeiting and piracy sold to the regions right now. This is also why it is difficult to screen between all volunteers who want to help with equipment. We cannot separate the serious from those who want to make money, says a source in government Sweden who works with coordination in the corona crisis.

It's also my understanding that by not encouraging physical distancing better, Sweden is also suffering a great lack of common sense.

I'm seeing more common sense being communicated at the Swedish daily national press briefings (without a politician in sight I might add - how about that), then from the show your President and his Pence-buddy are putting on every night.

Could things be done better? Yes. Could they be in the US?. Yes. Is it wrong balancing all factors of public health when dealing with this? No. Is Sweden stealing other companies supplies on the runway? No. Is it common sense to not do that? Yes.

https://instagram.com/p/B-soXYtJvrZ/embed/

Why post shit like this? Aren’t we in this together? Stop keeping score, we’re all losing.

To show that the gamut of "common sense" is bigger than "complete lockdown" or "covering streets in disinfection".

Stealing supplies from other badly hurt countries does not sound like a sign of being "in this together" to me. And as I wrote, shows a "suffering of great lack of common sense".

And yes, we are all losing -- and as I wrote: every one is working towards the same goal, to flatten the curve in the best way possible and get pass this pandemic.

Spiritual_Chaos · April 2020

Boris Johnson has left ICU

bbiggs · April 2020

josevolution said:

Here at hospital working I’m not going to jinx it or click my heals but it does seem like things are slowing down a bit! They have a couple of different sounds for alarms, one is they play Here comes the sun Beatles over the intercom it means some one was taken off ventilator and is recovering, the other is a bell but a soft bell sound almost like a chime is to announce someone being discharged from hospital and the codes have slowed down I’ve only heard one today..

This is an awesome post. Love hearing that kind of stuff. Keep safe!

Spiritual_Chaos · April 2020

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"Straight up irresponsible," [prime minister] Stefan Löfven said of pub guests and restaurants that do not respect the crowd rules.

But on the Thursday, many were attracted by the sun's warm rays at Medborgarplatsen in Stockholm.

- Now that spring is coming, you want to go out and have a beer. But I have thought about what I'm doing is not so wise, says Nemi Rosand, 18.

DewieCox · April 2020

Spiritual_Chaos said:

DewieCox said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Swedish corona care has since day one suffered a great lack of protective equipment.
At the end of March-April, the first aircraft loads of material from China began to land in Sweden.

But among the materials that have been flown in are products that do not measure up.

- It is pure counterfeiting and piracy sold to the regions right now. This is also why it is difficult to screen between all volunteers who want to help with equipment. We cannot separate the serious from those who want to make money, says a source in government Sweden who works with coordination in the corona crisis.

It's also my understanding that by not encouraging physical distancing better, Sweden is also suffering a great lack of common sense.

I'm seeing more common sense being communicated at the Swedish daily national press briefings (without a politician in sight I might add - how about that), then from the show your President and his Pence-buddy are putting on every night.

Could things be done better? Yes. Could they be in the US?. Yes. Is it wrong balancing all factors of public health when dealing with this? No. Is Sweden stealing other companies supplies on the runway? No. Is it common sense to not do that? Yes.

https://instagram.com/p/B-soXYtJvrZ/embed/

Why post shit like this? Aren’t we in this together? Stop keeping score, we’re all losing.

To show that the gamut of "common sense" is bigger than "complete lockdown" or "covering streets in disinfection".

Stealing supplies from other badly hurt countries does not sound like a sign of being "in this together" to me. And as I wrote, shows a "suffering of great lack of common sense".

Nobody here is responsible for thst.

Debate approaches if you like but it’s past time to stop keeping score between suffering countries.

Spiritual_Chaos · April 2020

DewieCox said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

DewieCox said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Swedish corona care has since day one suffered a great lack of protective equipment.
At the end of March-April, the first aircraft loads of material from China began to land in Sweden.

But among the materials that have been flown in are products that do not measure up.

- It is pure counterfeiting and piracy sold to the regions right now. This is also why it is difficult to screen between all volunteers who want to help with equipment. We cannot separate the serious from those who want to make money, says a source in government Sweden who works with coordination in the corona crisis.

It's also my understanding that by not encouraging physical distancing better, Sweden is also suffering a great lack of common sense.

I'm seeing more common sense being communicated at the Swedish daily national press briefings (without a politician in sight I might add - how about that), then from the show your President and his Pence-buddy are putting on every night.

Could things be done better? Yes. Could they be in the US?. Yes. Is it wrong balancing all factors of public health when dealing with this? No. Is Sweden stealing other companies supplies on the runway? No. Is it common sense to not do that? Yes.

https://instagram.com/p/B-soXYtJvrZ/embed/

Why post shit like this? Aren’t we in this together? Stop keeping score, we’re all losing.

To show that the gamut of "common sense" is bigger than "complete lockdown" or "covering streets in disinfection".

Stealing supplies from other badly hurt countries does not sound like a sign of being "in this together" to me. And as I wrote, shows a "suffering of great lack of common sense".

Nobody here is responsible for thst.

Debate approaches if you like but it’s past time to stop keeping score between suffering countries.

Who's keeping score between countries?

I responded to a post.

We ride together. We flatten the curve together. Bad Boys for life.
- Detective Mike Lowrey

OnWis97 · April 2020

josevolution said:

Here at hospital working I’m not going to jinx it or click my heals but it does seem like things are slowing down a bit! They have a couple of different sounds for alarms, one is they play Here comes the sun Beatles over the intercom it means some one was taken off ventilator and is recovering, the other is a bell but a soft bell sound almost like a chime is to announce someone being discharged from hospital and the codes have slowed down I’ve only heard one today..

My apologies if this is common knowledge and I've missed it, but where are you?

josevolution · April 2020

bbiggs said:

josevolution said:

Here at hospital working I’m not going to jinx it or click my heals but it does seem like things are slowing down a bit! They have a couple of different sounds for alarms, one is they play Here comes the sun Beatles over the intercom it means some one was taken off ventilator and is recovering, the other is a bell but a soft bell sound almost like a chime is to announce someone being discharged from hospital and the codes have slowed down I’ve only heard one today..

This is an awesome post. Love hearing that kind of stuff. Keep safe!

Yeah bro it’s a good way to let employees know the good news not just the codes I was hearing last two weeks , thanks and you do the same ..

Spunkie · April 2020

Thank you for sharing how you celebrate victories with music!

dudeman · April 2020

Stay at Home Order extended to the end of April in Michigan.

DewieCox · April 2020

Trumpers leaning hard on the memo about Covid on death certificates. Too many words make understand hard.

mcgruff10 · April 2020

All state and county parks closed in NJ. ugh

bbiggs · April 2020

A good friend of mine works at a local hospital and is in charge of sourcing the personal protective gear for the front line doctors and nurses. He said he's having a very hard time getting isolation gowns and they're coming up with plans on how to treat patients without them as a backup. Crazy stuff.

Ledbetterman10 · April 2020

mcgruff10 said:

All state and county parks closed in NJ. ugh

Just starting now? I’m in PA and ours have been closed for a while now. Figured NJ’s would’ve been closed sooner considering the virus numbers there.

mcgruff10 · April 2020

Ledbetterman10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

All state and county parks closed in NJ. ugh

Just starting now? I’m in PA and ours have been closed for a while now. Figured NJ’s would’ve been closed sooner considering the virus numbers there.

Started yesterday. Our town just closed all city parks too.

mace1229 · April 2020

mcgruff10 said:

All state and county parks closed in NJ. ugh

Kind of surprised they weren’t closed already.

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