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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787

    There was also this last week:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/missouri-man-planned-bomb-hospital-during-pandemic-get-attention-white-n1172346 

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Merkin Baller said:

    oftenreading said:
    mickeyrat said:
    jesus fucking christ.....

    Engineer Crashes Train Near Hospital Ship in Los Angeles https://nyti.ms/39IA4Rz

    JFC indeed. 

    Also, who knew that train wrecking was its own separate charge? 

    This is one of the places that conspiracy theories lead. 

    Yup.

    They’re not just harmless little differences of opinion. 
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    oftenreading said:
    mickeyrat said:
    jesus fucking christ.....

    Engineer Crashes Train Near Hospital Ship in Los Angeles https://nyti.ms/39IA4Rz

    JFC indeed. 

    Also, who knew that train wrecking was its own separate charge? 

    This is one of the places that conspiracy theories lead. 
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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    The GOPs evangelical base has slowly been shrinking over the years. Republican governor of Florida solution to this problem: exempt church gatherings from the state’s “stay at home” order.  What better way to ensure the your voting base continues to vote for you than to kill them off with COVID-19! Can’t make this shit up.

    www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2020/04/01/floridas-statewide-stay-at-home-order-still-allows-churches-to-gather-followers-during-coronavirus-outbreak%3fmedia=AMP%2bHTML
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    mcgruff10 said:
    bbiggs said:
    Damn.  This thread has gone sideways.  I'm personally going to step aside for a while to let everyone discuss Trump, both sides, etc.  Be safe and healthy, everyone!
    My big decision right now is to where to order take out from Saturday night.  What about you?  
    Oh very big news: we have really weird alcohol laws in NJ; the governor just relaxed the laws and breweries can now make home deliveries! 
    Hope your wives former neighbors are doing better and glad you saw your son.  
    PA resumes delivering alcohol again, can order up to six bottles. System crashed or something like that. 
    I'm not a big drinker but I put ice in my wine too.
    Be safe everyone
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited April 2020



    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    And some of those people will consequently have the need for another one of those services.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    oftenreading said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    And some of those people will consequently have the need for another one of those services.
    Didn't you get the memo? God is gonna take care of it.




    One way or another.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1245708144514195456?s=21
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    DewieCox said:
    Wild, had no idea a train could be driven off the tracks like that. Always assumed it took some other extraordinary force.

    I happens all the time here, Dewie.  :wink: 
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    cblock4life said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    bbiggs said:
    Damn.  This thread has gone sideways.  I'm personally going to step aside for a while to let everyone discuss Trump, both sides, etc.  Be safe and healthy, everyone!
    My big decision right now is to where to order take out from Saturday night.  What about you?  
    Oh very big news: we have really weird alcohol laws in NJ; the governor just relaxed the laws and breweries can now make home deliveries! 
    Hope your wives former neighbors are doing better and glad you saw your son.  
    PA resumes delivering alcohol again, can order up to six bottles. System crashed or something like that. 
    I'm not a big drinker but I put ice in my wine too.
    Be safe everyone
    Thanks bud!  Neighbor is still critical but stable and in a medically induced coma. He is showing slight improvement.  Hopefully he comes home soon.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited April 2020
    The deadly Ebola virus had spread in the area around the city of Kikwit. And when an infected patient was operated on Hospital general reference de Kikwit, it led to an explosive spread within the hospital. A large number of patients were infected and died. Of the hospital's 200 employees, 50 nursing staff died in ebola fever.
    When the swedish trio arrived in Central Africa, the staff had fled the hospital.The patients were left alone in their beds.
    Doctors without borders had to arrive and try to save the health care.
    - It was terrible, says Bo Niklasson, who had to go into the hospital in what he describes as a "space suit".



    One of the first things Anders Tegnell, Bo Niklasson and Håkan Eriksson did was to order bicycles.Nobody understood why.
    But two Hercules planes flew down 200 bicycles from Sweden, along with important medical equipment.
    - The Fire and Rescue Service asked if they had read the order correctly, says Bo Niklasson. But it turned out that the way to fight the Ebola epidemic was to inform the villagers how to act to avoid infection, and the task was given to medical candidates. To get to the villages they needed a bicycle and getting to keep the bicycle became their salary. 



    State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell compares the discussion of the bicycles with the criticism today against the Swedish Public Health Agency advocating methods different from neighboring countries.
    - It is part of it all to convince people that there are different ways of doing things, he says looking serious.

    During the Ebola outbreak in Zaire, Tegnell also learned the hard way how rushed epidemiological decisions can lead to dramatic negative consequences. Since the spread of infection in Zaire had exploded in connection with an operation, the authorities had made a decision that no one was to be operated on. People died needlessly.
    - There were patients who could be operated and rescued without risk, says Bo Niklasson. But they did not, they let them die, because of the ban. It was very tragic. There we shared horrible experiences. People had expectations that we would do something, but we felt locked in these decisions and none of us protested. It was probably the scariest thing.



    Anders Tegnell draws parallels to today's corona outbreak in Sweden.
    - Closing schools is a typical example of this thinking. It's easy to say and relatively easy to do, but the consequences will be huge. Among other things, a lot of staff from the health care will disappear, which means that people sick with Corona will get worse care and the public health in Sweden will be worse. It is important to think a few more steps and not just rush off and do the convenient things.
    Because people can die?
    - Yes, it has been proven repeatedly. In West Africa, more people died from other diseases, due to lack of health care, than those who died in Ebola. Even in Congo, most recently, more children died in measles than in Ebola, says Anders Tegnell.



    At the time of this interview, both British Channel 4 and French media are here to ask Tegnell about Sweden's decision to choose voluntary measures over forced ones. Foreign media and Norwegian researchers question Sweden's actions. Professor and infection protection physician Bjørg Marit Andersen has stated in Aftonbladet that Sweden goes against the Nordic experience of using isolation and quarantine to protect itself against infections.
    Tegnell thinks it is important to explain the Swedish line for foreign media.
    - There is research that show that effective cultures are based on trust and reliability. Then you do not need laws and instead can work quickly, says Tegnell.
    - Take measles vaccination. Voluntarily Sweden reach 98 percent. In Italy, they use force and reach only 70 percent.

    The professor believes that the experiences during the Ebola outbreak, the deaths they were forced to experience, make Anders Tegnell better equipped for today's corona crisis.
    "It characterizes you," he says. It is a very important experience to work in epidemics and see how people work and how events work. Having made that work is extremely important and educational. It is good that we have a state epidemiologist who participated in it.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,614
    Anesthesia Code blue 9monti, Anesthesia Code blue 3cohen , anesthesia code blue ER on & on, these are codes the get called when a Covid19 patient is coding they started last week and since they have scalated in frequency yesterday I heard 10 or maybe more! I’m sure it’s going to get a lot worse 
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    josevolution said:
    Anesthesia Code blue 9monti, Anesthesia Code blue 3cohen , anesthesia code blue ER on & on, these are codes the get called when a Covid19 patient is coding they started last week and since they have scalated in frequency yesterday I heard 10 or maybe more! I’m sure it’s going to get a lot worse 
    Heartbreaking and tragic. Stay safe, Jose.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    josevolution said:
    Anesthesia Code blue 9monti, Anesthesia Code blue 3cohen , anesthesia code blue ER on & on, these are codes the get called when a Covid19 patient is coding they started last week and since they have scalated in frequency yesterday I heard 10 or maybe more! I’m sure it’s going to get a lot worse 
    Terrible.   Just awful.  Be safe and stay healthy bud. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Be safe, Jose. Damn
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    edited April 2020
    I am a resident podiatrist.  Many of my colleagues at other hospitals are being “pulled” to work inpatient floors.  As a podiatrist, I can promise we are not trained as well as we should be to perform some of these tasks.

    STAY HOME unless you want a fresh out of school foot doctor managing your heart and lungs
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  • josevolution
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    Weston1283 said:
    I am a resident podiatrist.  Many of my colleagues at other hospitals are being “pulled” to work inpatient floors.  As a podiatrist, I can promise we are not trained as well as we should be to perform some of these tasks.

    STAY HOME unless you want a fresh out of school foot doctor managing your heart and lungs
    Stay safe & thanks for your services 🙏
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