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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    An unintended consequence of Gov DeWine push to talk Coronavirus and prepare prepare prepare has been the complete and utter lack of care for individuals in need of medical attention right now for things other than coronavirus.

    My mother fell and broke her leg last week.  She was in hospital, but they decided not to do surgery right away and get her out cause of coronavirus.  A little premature in reality.  Well, they moved her to a "rehab" facility.  Only, since they are clearing wings of the hospital many people are being moved, including the mentally ill.  She is basically in an insane asylum that is on lockdown with no guests.  She has had 2 different men enter her room a total of 5 times.  The one was incoherent.  Took the staff 22 minutes to come to her room.  The second man was screaming at her to get out of his house and where was his wife.  3 times in one night with that fellow.  Staff not responding fast nor really fixing the problem.  These are staff that are not prepared to deal with the psych ward patients.  But, they aren't even meeting the base expectation of keeping people safe.  There is some more, and she has only been there less than a week.

    I wish we could actually balance our approach appropriately.  Ignoring it does't work.  Neglecting care for those that need it to prepare for something that isn;t there yet doesn;t work either.  Not allowing visitors allows these facilities to get away with not providing basic needs.  I have no idea what to do.

    So yeah, fuck the chinese government and fuck Trump for downplaying and fuck all those that dramatize it for 24 hour news coverage while we as a society continue to fuck over others that actually need our help today, this very instance.  
    Sorry to hear that totally sucks , his crisis has such a trickle effect that it will affect everyone. Hoping you mom get the help she needs..
    Thanks all.  Looking into options, but everyone using Covid-19 as an excuse.  I'm tired of people being unable to think critically and make decisions. 
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    But still, they have a massive population. You'd think even with a lockdown they'd have more given their population size.
    One 'explanation' I saw was there isn't enough testing kits to go around.  Numbers are low because China is only reporting confirmed cases.  They are now going to start reporting suspected cases as well.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    In Ontario they are postponing people’s cancer surgery...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    In Ontario they are postponing people’s cancer surgery...
    Dumb, depending on the situation.  Cancer kills too and is already there.  
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,107
    I believe that China also didn’t report people that tested positive but had no symptoms and also people that tested for having already had it that produced anti bodies.  That information is supposed to be released to the WHO today.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    I do not know a single person who would disagree with TA...

    the China dislike in Canada has been brought on by China...

    maybe instead of posting a tweet do some research on China/Canada relationship the last little bit.

    China is currently holding 2 Canadians as hostages...

    sounds like a great country.

    china is a piece of shit.  Fuck China.


    I am so sorry. I should have read up on how racism and xenophobia is A-OK and defendable in Canada before posting about their Chief Public Health Officer calling it out. Stupid her. And oh, so much stupid me.


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    . but let’s not make absurd comments that there were no justifications for it.
    I stand by my reporting.

    And so does Hans Blix.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,545
    mickeyrat said:
    I do not know a single person who would disagree with TA...

    the China dislike in Canada has been brought on by China...

    maybe instead of posting a tweet do some research on China/Canada relationship the last little bit.

    China is currently holding 2 Canadians as hostages...

    sounds like a great country.

    china is a piece of shit.  Fuck China.


    Hasn't one of their doctors who spoke out against the CCP gone missing?
    Such a lovely regime over there.
    the doctor who initially raised the alarm to local party members eventually died from it.

    You may be thinking of this lawyer who did man on the street reporting because he was curious about what was really going on, like in HK  He'd give his reporting, mindful to not criticize Beijing. Until he decided he wanted to see what was going on in Wuhan for himself. He criticized Beijing over the response he witnessed........
    Yeah I know about that doctor.
    A woman is missing, forgot her exact position, I believe she's a doctor?
    I think this is what you're talking about 


  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I am seeing 5 or 6 new york plated vehicles headed west every night. last couple of days with uhaul equipment too.   

    and that's just between columbus and indy on I-70


    Comments such as those coming from the FL governor where NYers are being treated like we all have the plague are deplorable (not saying that’s your comment, it is an interesting observation you provided). NY kept it’s borders open to the world while this virus was brewing. Any state that had residents pass thru NY from overseas during 2020 should respect that benefit it received and share responsibility and community.
    have no doubt. they'll take your dollars and retirees but..... seems most of these gop trump asslicker governors really dropped the ball believing douchefuck.

    finding it odd its just NY vehicles . No NJ or CT..
    Florida is still not preaching the act of social distancing.  

    What is THAT state going to look like in a few weeks?
    Well I'm here Palm Beach County and I practice social distancing fir sure. I go to work, which is overnight and I'm hardly ever close to my coworkers. I work with 5 others in a wholesale club, I leave wipe my car down with disinfectant wipes. Then drive straight home and I don't leave till its time to go back to work.

    I don't go check the mail till two in the morning, i do not want any part of this virus.

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    g under p said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I am seeing 5 or 6 new york plated vehicles headed west every night. last couple of days with uhaul equipment too.   

    and that's just between columbus and indy on I-70


    Comments such as those coming from the FL governor where NYers are being treated like we all have the plague are deplorable (not saying that’s your comment, it is an interesting observation you provided). NY kept it’s borders open to the world while this virus was brewing. Any state that had residents pass thru NY from overseas during 2020 should respect that benefit it received and share responsibility and community.
    have no doubt. they'll take your dollars and retirees but..... seems most of these gop trump asslicker governors really dropped the ball believing douchefuck.

    finding it odd its just NY vehicles . No NJ or CT..
    Florida is still not preaching the act of social distancing.  

    What is THAT state going to look like in a few weeks?
    Well I'm here Palm Beach County and I practice social distancing fir sure. I go to work, which is overnight and I'm hardly ever close to my coworkers. I work with 5 others in a wholesale club, I leave wipe my car down with disinfectant wipes. Then drive straight home and I don't leave till its time to go back to work.

    I don't go check the mail till two in the morning, i do not want any part of this virus.

    Peace
    Well at least one person is!
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,260
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    If you want a response, you must include the name “Trump” in there somewhere. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    nicknyr15 said:
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    If you want a response, you must include the name “Trump” in there somewhere. 
    Or maybe a source so people interested can read up on it.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,367
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    Governments not admitting to their fuck ups and withholding information from the public is not new. I don’t believe shit coming from China or Team Trump Treason.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    nicknyr15 said:
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    If you want a response, you must include the name “Trump” in there somewhere. 
    Or maybe a source so people interested can read up on it.
    Or a meme or gif.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    WOW. 20 million???

    Yeah, there is probably something to this.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    nicknyr15 said:
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    riotgrl said:
    Not saying I believe the Chinese numbers but if you look at how extreme their measures were to contain it then the numbers would still be lower than what other countries are reporting even with their higher population just because their measures were so extreme.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/01/coronavirus-covid-19-china-radical-measures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.
    I do find their numbers hard to believe.

    There was an article about cell phone usage in China and that there are 20 million LESS cell phones in use now.

    Take that for what it's worth but it is a link to something.

    Crickets on this?
    If you want a response, you must include the name “Trump” in there somewhere. 
    Or maybe a source so people interested can read up on it.
    Or a meme or gif.
    Be better.
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