The coronavirus

F Me In The Brain

Beasties!

tempo_n_groove

dankind said:

CM189191 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

MayDay10 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

You know why I am mad?
My friend's fiance just gave birth to their first child and she is so isolated because we are not allowed out of our homes.
She would love to go to mother's groups and get support from new mothers and do baby yoga and go for a walk with a pram.
But she's seriously stressed and isolated. She's on her own with her baby.
She reached out on Facebook asking if anyone has baby paracetamol as her baby is unwell and none is available at her local pharmacies because greedy idiots stockpiled. All this because China did not alert the world.

Everyone is pissed and is making sacrifices to some degree.

We dont need to invent something to levy blame on.  Things arent always so easy and black and white... even though the human mind seeks that clarity.  At some point, when this is over, the international committee will figure it out and hopefully work together to prevent this from happening again.  

Everything I have read from reputable sources says that there is no way this virus is man-made.

If not man made, then why does the CCP continue to allow the sale and consumption of animals know to carry the virus?
Why does the CCP allow unhygienic wet markets to exist?
The CCP needs to change its behaviour to prevent this happening again. 
SARS, swine flu, MERS, Covid-19, all from China thanks to the CCP.

Good question: why don't rural areas in a developing economy have widespread access to modern refrigeration and established food distribution channels? 

Could it be due to decades of protectionist and isolationist foreign policy?

Will continuing these policies lead to more or less pandemic outbreaks? 

🐔 /🥚 ?

I egged the chicken and then I ate his leg!

Bloodclot...

Bentleyspop

Here's a revolutionary idea....

Man up
Take the blame
Figure out what went wrong, not who
And fix it

Pence seeks to blame CDC and China for any delay in US coronavirus response -- not Trump's initial failure to face reality Pence seeks to blame CDC and China for any delay in US coronavirus response -- not Trump's initial failure to face reality https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/mike-pence-coronavirus/index.html

rgambs

mace1229 said:

oftenreading said:

brianlux said:

rgambs said:

I wonder how cell phone plans work in China.  If they have a high percentage of prepaid, burner style usage, 20 million fewer users in an economic downturn doesn't sound outrageous.  I just did the math, and (assuming I did the math right, and that's one big ass) that's .0125% of the 1.6 billion cell phone users in China.  Even without a "high" % of prepaid users that doesn't sound crazy.

I wonder how you text in Mandarin. 

? 

Same way you text in any other language. 

But don’t they have hundreds of character? I’ve wondered the same.

Thousands, actually.  As many as 50,000!  I think normal life uses 3-5k.
To type, they use a system called pinyin, where they spell the words out on a keyboard in an alphabet like ours, and the computer or phone converts it to the appropriate character.

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1245373085508718593?s=20

tempo_n_groove

Bentleyspop said:

Here's a revolutionary idea....

Man up
Take the blame
Figure out what went wrong, not who
And fix it

Pence seeks to blame CDC and China for any delay in US coronavirus response -- not Trump's initial failure to face reality Pence seeks to blame CDC and China for any delay in US coronavirus response -- not Trump's initial failure to face reality https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/mike-pence-coronavirus/index.html

I'm ok with this.  Pence's take on this was done with tact at least.

It may be a CYA but I'll take it for what it's worth.

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

Ledbetterman10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

God bless the folks on the front line of all this. Not just medical professionals (though mainly them), but people stuck working at grocery stores, gas stations, etc. 

mcgruff10

Just when I think he can't go any lower he does.  President Trump is such a POS:  
“For whatever reason, New York got off to a very late start and you see what happens when you get off to a late start," Trump said during his daily White House news conference. "New Jersey got off to — and I think both governors are doing an excellent job now but they got off to a very late start.”

A spokesman for New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy responded Tuesday night by saying the New Jersey governor “was far ahead of the federal government in responding swiftly and decisively to the spread of COVID-19."

“If anything, the federal government has been following his lead,” Mahen Gunaratna, Murphy’s communications director, said in a statement to NJ Advance Media.

And Cuomo’s communications director, Dani Lever, responded to Trump’s comments by saying: “This is not the time to debate, but the states were not slow to respond — the federal government was absent.”

F Me In The Brain

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

Could this be that Fanatics has taken a role to help produce PPE?

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/mlb-fanatics-halts-baseball-jersey-production-uses-materials-to-make-masks-and-gowns

Sometimes Twitter is really promoting false information and we would be good to think things through.

mfc2006

mcgruff10 said:

Just when I think he can't go any lower he does.  President Trump is such a POS:  
“For whatever reason, New York got off to a very late start and you see what happens when you get off to a late start," Trump said during his daily White House news conference. "New Jersey got off to — and I think both governors are doing an excellent job now but they got off to a very late start.”

A spokesman for New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy responded Tuesday night by saying the New Jersey governor “was far ahead of the federal government in responding swiftly and decisively to the spread of COVID-19."

“If anything, the federal government has been following his lead,” Mahen Gunaratna, Murphy’s communications director, said in a statement to NJ Advance Media.

And Cuomo’s communications director, Dani Lever, responded to Trump’s comments by saying: “This is not the time to debate, but the states were not slow to respond — the federal government was absent.”

POS President. Fuck him.

FiveBelow

Lerxst1992 said:

JW269453 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JW269453 said:

bootlegger10 said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

Ok so no one is to blame cool so the same can be said of no one takes responsibility correct? And who do you think will take credit when this is over? 

Blah blah blah. I never said trump didn’t drop the ball holy shit. Cool down dude. Not everything is a personal political attack. I’m just saying both sides acted irresponsibly. That’s a fact. Hopefully we’ll all be better prepared for the next one. 

lol both sides please tell me the sides or teams you speak of? Who will take responsibility for saving the world I’m asking a question..

I wasn’t defending trump. I’m just showing how completely unprepared everyone was and how neither side took this seriously until it was too late. And of course he’ll claim he saved the world. We’re in the middle of it and all he does is talking about the terrific job he’s doing. It’s old news. His actions don’t shock or surprise me anymore. 

Here is my take.  Most of the Western World did not do a good job with this.  But....There is only one US President right now. There is only one WHite House Administration right now.  There is only one Republican controlled Senate. 

It is the President's job to lead, and then people follow.  The governors were left to fend for themselves and took the lead from the WHite House that this wasn't a big deal and was an impeachment hoax.  The different government organizations take the lead from the administration.   You can say everyone was unprepared, but there was information out there in Dec/Jan and the leader/party that is in power and asked for votes so they could be in power and in-charge failed to act soon enough.   If someone that works for me fails to start a project and the client gets mad, they are calling me because  it is my fault and failure to lead. 

Sure, we were unprepared before Trump took office.  But there were two months practically that the US failed to lead and take action. 

Not trying to poke the bear, but in all fairness the only thing the Democrats were focused on was the ongoing impeachment when the initial news broke. Not saying this is their fault, just stating that they had their minds elsewhere as well. I do agree with many of your points.

***This is not an endorsement for trump***

It sorta is. This was on March 9th. March 9.

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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Mar 9

So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!



Your recollection is vastly inaccurate. Think about that.

I’m not following you on this. My comment was in response to the early news in Dec/Jan, and how nobody was really focusing on the looming pandemic because everyone was in impeachment mode. I don’t recall politicians or professionals calling for immediate action prior to the initial travel ban that was questioned at the time. This tweet obviously spread a false sense of security, but I don’t know how it relates to what I said or how what I said is seen as an endorsement.

The Democrats do not run the CDC or other agencies to prepare for a crisis like this. It is literally the presidents job to do so. So to create a comparison of what the democrats were doing in january is dangerously ignoring what the potus job was to do at that time. Go ahead and take a look at how Clinton handled his impeachment. He focused on his job. As recently as March 9 trump was not taking this seriously and there were significant delays in testing and shelter in place recommendations that will cost tens of thousands of lives. That has nothing to do with what democrats were doing up to feb 5.

 That “false sense of security” is exactly what is costing lives.

So we agree on the false sense of security, good. At the same time, Fauci has said the travel ban placed on January 31st saved tens of thousands of lives, but yet it was still met with harsh criticism. House Dems were pushing to pass the No Ban Act on March 12th, just 3 days after trump tweeted damaging information they were pushing to halt travel restrictions that were deemed as life saving by the NIAID. What if they had got the act passed, what would the current situation look like? See how this works? You see one side as responsible for everything and I choose to believe both parties have skin in the game. My viewpoint isn't an attack on you, it is your choice to believe whatever you want.

static111

JW269453 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JW269453 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JW269453 said:

bootlegger10 said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

Ok so no one is to blame cool so the same can be said of no one takes responsibility correct? And who do you think will take credit when this is over? 

Blah blah blah. I never said trump didn’t drop the ball holy shit. Cool down dude. Not everything is a personal political attack. I’m just saying both sides acted irresponsibly. That’s a fact. Hopefully we’ll all be better prepared for the next one. 

lol both sides please tell me the sides or teams you speak of? Who will take responsibility for saving the world I’m asking a question..

I wasn’t defending trump. I’m just showing how completely unprepared everyone was and how neither side took this seriously until it was too late. And of course he’ll claim he saved the world. We’re in the middle of it and all he does is talking about the terrific job he’s doing. It’s old news. His actions don’t shock or surprise me anymore. 

Here is my take.  Most of the Western World did not do a good job with this.  But....There is only one US President right now. There is only one WHite House Administration right now.  There is only one Republican controlled Senate. 

It is the President's job to lead, and then people follow.  The governors were left to fend for themselves and took the lead from the WHite House that this wasn't a big deal and was an impeachment hoax.  The different government organizations take the lead from the administration.   You can say everyone was unprepared, but there was information out there in Dec/Jan and the leader/party that is in power and asked for votes so they could be in power and in-charge failed to act soon enough.   If someone that works for me fails to start a project and the client gets mad, they are calling me because  it is my fault and failure to lead. 

Sure, we were unprepared before Trump took office.  But there were two months practically that the US failed to lead and take action. 

Not trying to poke the bear, but in all fairness the only thing the Democrats were focused on was the ongoing impeachment when the initial news broke. Not saying this is their fault, just stating that they had their minds elsewhere as well. I do agree with many of your points.

***This is not an endorsement for trump***

It sorta is. This was on March 9th. March 9.

See new Tweets

Tweet

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

·

Mar 9

So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!



Your recollection is vastly inaccurate. Think about that.

I’m not following you on this. My comment was in response to the early news in Dec/Jan, and how nobody was really focusing on the looming pandemic because everyone was in impeachment mode. I don’t recall politicians or professionals calling for immediate action prior to the initial travel ban that was questioned at the time. This tweet obviously spread a false sense of security, but I don’t know how it relates to what I said or how what I said is seen as an endorsement.

The Democrats do not run the CDC or other agencies to prepare for a crisis like this. It is literally the presidents job to do so. So to create a comparison of what the democrats were doing in january is dangerously ignoring what the potus job was to do at that time. Go ahead and take a look at how Clinton handled his impeachment. He focused on his job. As recently as March 9 trump was not taking this seriously and there were significant delays in testing and shelter in place recommendations that will cost tens of thousands of lives. That has nothing to do with what democrats were doing up to feb 5.

 That “false sense of security” is exactly what is costing lives.

So we agree on the false sense of security, good. At the same time, Fauci has said the travel ban placed on January 31st saved tens of thousands of lives, but yet it was still met with harsh criticism. House Dems were pushing to pass the No Ban Act on March 12th, just 3 days after trump tweeted damaging information they were pushing to halt travel restrictions that were deemed as life saving by the NIAID. What if they had got the act passed, what would the current situation look like? See how this works? You see one side as responsible for everything and I choose to believe both parties have skin in the game. My viewpoint isn't an attack on you, it is your choice to believe whatever you want.

You forget this is the Trump is the disease not a symptom and if it’s not his fault it’s Bernie’s part of the board. Yes both sides are bad. One side is marginally better for some and one side is marginally better for others. Therefore let’s all take extreme positions and yell at each other!

FiveBelow

static111 said:

JW269453 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JW269453 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JW269453 said:

bootlegger10 said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

Ok so no one is to blame cool so the same can be said of no one takes responsibility correct? And who do you think will take credit when this is over? 

Blah blah blah. I never said trump didn’t drop the ball holy shit. Cool down dude. Not everything is a personal political attack. I’m just saying both sides acted irresponsibly. That’s a fact. Hopefully we’ll all be better prepared for the next one. 

lol both sides please tell me the sides or teams you speak of? Who will take responsibility for saving the world I’m asking a question..

I wasn’t defending trump. I’m just showing how completely unprepared everyone was and how neither side took this seriously until it was too late. And of course he’ll claim he saved the world. We’re in the middle of it and all he does is talking about the terrific job he’s doing. It’s old news. His actions don’t shock or surprise me anymore. 

Here is my take.  Most of the Western World did not do a good job with this.  But....There is only one US President right now. There is only one WHite House Administration right now.  There is only one Republican controlled Senate. 

It is the President's job to lead, and then people follow.  The governors were left to fend for themselves and took the lead from the WHite House that this wasn't a big deal and was an impeachment hoax.  The different government organizations take the lead from the administration.   You can say everyone was unprepared, but there was information out there in Dec/Jan and the leader/party that is in power and asked for votes so they could be in power and in-charge failed to act soon enough.   If someone that works for me fails to start a project and the client gets mad, they are calling me because  it is my fault and failure to lead. 

Sure, we were unprepared before Trump took office.  But there were two months practically that the US failed to lead and take action. 

Not trying to poke the bear, but in all fairness the only thing the Democrats were focused on was the ongoing impeachment when the initial news broke. Not saying this is their fault, just stating that they had their minds elsewhere as well. I do agree with many of your points.

***This is not an endorsement for trump***

It sorta is. This was on March 9th. March 9.

See new Tweets

Tweet

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

·

Mar 9

So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!



Your recollection is vastly inaccurate. Think about that.

I’m not following you on this. My comment was in response to the early news in Dec/Jan, and how nobody was really focusing on the looming pandemic because everyone was in impeachment mode. I don’t recall politicians or professionals calling for immediate action prior to the initial travel ban that was questioned at the time. This tweet obviously spread a false sense of security, but I don’t know how it relates to what I said or how what I said is seen as an endorsement.

The Democrats do not run the CDC or other agencies to prepare for a crisis like this. It is literally the presidents job to do so. So to create a comparison of what the democrats were doing in january is dangerously ignoring what the potus job was to do at that time. Go ahead and take a look at how Clinton handled his impeachment. He focused on his job. As recently as March 9 trump was not taking this seriously and there were significant delays in testing and shelter in place recommendations that will cost tens of thousands of lives. That has nothing to do with what democrats were doing up to feb 5.

 That “false sense of security” is exactly what is costing lives.

So we agree on the false sense of security, good. At the same time, Fauci has said the travel ban placed on January 31st saved tens of thousands of lives, but yet it was still met with harsh criticism. House Dems were pushing to pass the No Ban Act on March 12th, just 3 days after trump tweeted damaging information they were pushing to halt travel restrictions that were deemed as life saving by the NIAID. What if they had got the act passed, what would the current situation look like? See how this works? You see one side as responsible for everything and I choose to believe both parties have skin in the game. My viewpoint isn't an attack on you, it is your choice to believe whatever you want.

You forget this is the Trump is the disease not a symptom and if it’s not his fault it’s Bernie’s part of the board. Yes both sides are bad. One side is marginally better for some and one side is marginally better for others. Therefore let’s all take extreme positions and yell at each other!

Lol, actually I forgot to make sure to say I am not endorsing trump because any criticism away from him tends to be seen as showing support.

Spiritual_Chaos

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

Could this be that Fanatics has taken a role to help produce PPE?

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/mlb-fanatics-halts-baseball-jersey-production-uses-materials-to-make-masks-and-gowns

Sometimes Twitter is really promoting false information and we would be good to think things through.

Why would it say "adult rain poncho" on it, then?

pjl44

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

Could this be that Fanatics has taken a role to help produce PPE?

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/mlb-fanatics-halts-baseball-jersey-production-uses-materials-to-make-masks-and-gowns

Sometimes Twitter is really promoting false information and we would be good to think things through.

Why would it say "adult rain poncho" on it, then?

They were using material from baseball jerseys to sew masks so I guess there's an outside chance they used poncho bags to package them. The safe bet, though, is that they were indeed handing out adult rain ponchos to be worn.

F Me In The Brain

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

Could this be that Fanatics has taken a role to help produce PPE?

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/mlb-fanatics-halts-baseball-jersey-production-uses-materials-to-make-masks-and-gowns

Sometimes Twitter is really promoting false information and we would be good to think things through.

Why would it say "adult rain poncho" on it, then?

C'mon, is it that hard to apply some thought/common sense?

Perhaps they already have bags made or printing set or whatever that fit the ponchos that already will fit the gowns and or masks that they very clearly ARE making to try and help out as shown in the actual news link that I shared?

Just try to think a little before sharing anything you find on twitter and taking it at face value.  (This is not a comment directly for you, although it applies to this and other twitter shares you have done in the past.)

F Me In The Brain

pjl44 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

Could this be that Fanatics has taken a role to help produce PPE?

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/mlb-fanatics-halts-baseball-jersey-production-uses-materials-to-make-masks-and-gowns

Sometimes Twitter is really promoting false information and we would be good to think things through.

Why would it say "adult rain poncho" on it, then?

They were using material from baseball jerseys to sew masks so I guess there's an outside chance they used poncho bags to package them. The safe bet, though, is that they were indeed handing out adult rain ponchos to be worn.

The article shows they were making gowns and masks..

mcgruff10

pjl44 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

Could this be that Fanatics has taken a role to help produce PPE?

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/mlb-fanatics-halts-baseball-jersey-production-uses-materials-to-make-masks-and-gowns

Sometimes Twitter is really promoting false information and we would be good to think things through.

Why would it say "adult rain poncho" on it, then?

They were using material from baseball jerseys to sew masks so I guess there's an outside chance they used poncho bags to package them. The safe bet, though, is that they were indeed handing out adult rain ponchos to be worn.

Same thing happened in China.  However I'll take anything posted on twitter with a grain of salt.  

Spiritual_Chaos

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802?s=20

Could this be that Fanatics has taken a role to help produce PPE?

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/mlb-fanatics-halts-baseball-jersey-production-uses-materials-to-make-masks-and-gowns

Sometimes Twitter is really promoting false information and we would be good to think things through.

Why would it say "adult rain poncho" on it, then?

C'mon, is it that hard to apply some thought/common sense?

Perhaps they already have bags made or printing set or whatever that fit the ponchos that already will fit the gowns and or masks that they very clearly ARE making to try and help out as shown in the actual news link that I shared?

Just try to think a little before sharing anything you find on twitter and taking it at face value.  (This is not a comment directly for you, although it applies to this and other twitter shares you have done in the past.)

I don't have a problem with the general gist of what you are saying.

But I have a feeling in this case that your explanation/theory is more far fetched than what is presented at face value.