i covered an elective surgery in columbia, mo today. they are going to start easing restrictions on elective surgeries late next week, but are going to take baby steps. i guess it wasn't technically elective since the bone graft was set to expire next week. I am glad we were able to get it done and hopefully the patient does well.
st louis and southern illinois still have no timeline to resume elective cases that i have heard.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Word is a bunch of Massholes are going to protest in front of our governor’s house tomorrow. Not the State House, but his private home. It’s really fine people who do a thing like that.
Oh, and guess who lives five or six houses away from the governor?
Fuck. A. Duck.
Oh yeah, and I believe the highest daily death toll (and possibly new cases) in the commonwealth came out today, so great timing, folks.
Word is a bunch of Massholes are going to protest in front of our governor’s house tomorrow. Not the State House, but his private home. It’s really fine people who do a thing like that.
Oh, and guess who lives five or six houses away from the governor?
Fuck. A. Duck.
Oh yeah, and I believe the highest daily death toll (and possibly new cases) in the commonwealth came out today, so great timing, folks.
Water ballon launchers can be a beautiful thing. Need three friends though, two to hold and one to spot and call in the range/angle.
Here's what I don't understand about the U.S.'s approach. Just about every state bought in to the stay at home orders. This lasted 4-5 weeks or so and many states are now starting to get antsy and want to open back up. In the meantime, the virus cases and deaths continue to rise, so we haven't seen the peak. What was the point in locking down to begin with if you weren't going to at least ride it out until after the peak? Seems pretty pointless to me. It's the wild west around here with no sense of direction. Buckle up.
I believe it's inaccurate to say the US hasn't hit a peak -- the daily death toll has declined since April 15. But I agree that easing up too soon would surely cause a fresh spike.
My understanding is the peak has/ will occur at different times in different places. For example, last I heard, California will not peak until sometime in May, possibly even late May. Governor Newsom will be on in 1/2 hour and will probably update that.
And what constitutes "peak" may be treacherously deceiving. A second wave could eclipse the first one. It blows my mind when I hear people think we are "almost out of the woods". I sure wish it were so, but we're not. We're not even all the way into the woods yet.
I think it's a slow walk out of the woods and we're close to taking the first few steps. For instance, I think it won't be too long before you can (with precautions) visit in small groups with family/friends or get a haircut. On the other hand I think we're a ways away from filling an arena for a concert or basketball game. Although I'd LOVE to be wrong on the latter.
Oh my- getting out and being with people again will be soooooooo good!
Here's what I don't understand about the U.S.'s approach. Just about every state bought in to the stay at home orders. This lasted 4-5 weeks or so and many states are now starting to get antsy and want to open back up. In the meantime, the virus cases and deaths continue to rise, so we haven't seen the peak. What was the point in locking down to begin with if you weren't going to at least ride it out until after the peak? Seems pretty pointless to me. It's the wild west around here with no sense of direction. Buckle up.
I believe it's inaccurate to say the US hasn't hit a peak -- the daily death toll has declined since April 15. But I agree that easing up too soon would surely cause a fresh spike.
My understanding is the peak has/ will occur at different times in different places. For example, last I heard, California will not peak until sometime in May, possibly even late May. Governor Newsom will be on in 1/2 hour and will probably update that.
And what constitutes "peak" may be treacherously deceiving. A second wave could eclipse the first one. It blows my mind when I hear people think we are "almost out of the woods". I sure wish it were so, but we're not. We're not even all the way into the woods yet.
I think it's a slow walk out of the woods and we're close to taking the first few steps. For instance, I think it won't be too long before you can (with precautions) visit in small groups with family/friends or get a haircut. On the other hand I think we're a ways away from filling an arena for a concert or basketball game. Although I'd LOVE to be wrong on the latter.
Oh my- getting out and being with people again will be soooooooo good!
Speak for yourself, man!
This introvert is loving life right now!
I've jokingly said that I've been practicing social-distancing my entire life.
LOL both. I get it! I'm mainly an introvert myself but there are times when I emerge from my shell and really dig being around people. Then I'm satiated with peopleness and crawl back into my hole!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Word is a bunch of Massholes are going to protest in front of our governor’s house tomorrow. Not the State House, but his private home. It’s really fine people who do a thing like that.
Oh, and guess who lives five or six houses away from the governor?
Fuck. A. Duck.
Oh yeah, and I believe the highest daily death toll (and possibly new cases) in the commonwealth came out today, so great timing, folks.
Water ballon launchers can be a beautiful thing. Need three friends though, two to hold and one to spot and call in the range/angle.
And a fourth for bail.
Introvert here too. It’s working for my guy and me.
Word is a bunch of Massholes are going to protest in front of our governor’s house tomorrow. Not the State House, but his private home. It’s really fine people who do a thing like that.
Oh, and guess who lives five or six houses away from the governor?
Fuck. A. Duck.
Oh yeah, and I believe the highest daily death toll (and possibly new cases) in the commonwealth came out today, so great timing, folks.
Water ballon launchers can be a beautiful thing. Need three friends though, two to hold and one to spot and call in the range/angle.
And a fourth for bail.
Introvert here too. It’s working for my guy and me.
From the proper distance, you can get 5 or 6 off and they’d not have a clue. Unless you filmed it and posted it on social media. Bail can be arranged.
How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes?
I'm a teacher. I get laid off two months every year anyway, so I'm used it. This year it's four. No biggie.
You aren’t getting paid for May and June?
Yes, I am still getting paid. At the same time I feel grateful, I feel terribly guilty about it, knowing how much others are suffering who've lost their jobs. I am technically "working" until the end of May, which is when school was out for me in a normal year. By "working" -- I mean creating and posting weekly assignments that only 1/4 of my students are completing, answering a handful of emails a day, meeting once a week with my department. Dreaming big about next year when we go back. My district has been very reasonable about work-at-home structures and requirements, so compared to what a normal workday was like in my trauma flooded school pre-Covid, this is really not hard for me. I know teachers in other districts are being slammed and really not coping well. My main stressor right now is I can't stop imagining the horror shows that must be occurring in many of my students' homes while they are stuck there. My instructional coach told me today that they've already had several CPS reports going in by teachers who have been on Zoom calls with students and had to report things they saw in the background. My first Zoom "office hour" is Friday, and I have mixed feelings about it.
How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes?
I'm a teacher. I get laid off two months every year anyway, so I'm used it. This year it's four. No biggie.
You aren’t getting paid for May and June?
Yes, I am still getting paid. At the same time I feel grateful, I feel terribly guilty about it, knowing how much others are suffering who've lost their jobs. I am technically "working" until the end of May, which is when school was out for me in a normal year. By "working" -- I mean creating and posting weekly assignments that only 1/4 of my students are completing, answering a handful of emails a day, meeting once a week with my department. Dreaming big about next year when we go back. My district has been very reasonable about work-at-home structures and requirements, so compared to what a normal workday was like in my trauma flooded school pre-Covid, this is really not hard for me. I know teachers in other districts are being slammed and really not coping well. My main stressor right now is I can't stop imagining the horror shows that must be occurring in many of my students' homes while they are stuck there. My instructional coach told me today that they've already had several CPS reports going in by teachers who have been on Zoom calls with students and had to report things they saw in the background. My first Zoom "office hour" is Friday, and I have mixed feelings about it.
I wondered how many teachers put up work assignments once a week vs taught classes online. Seems different things happening even in the same schools.
Thanks for posting. Small, preliminary study of 44 seriously ill patients (inpatients, a good chunk in ICU) and a companion study of 98 asymptomatic health care workers. Results seem promising but, as always, will need to be replicated in larger studies. If this bears out then it's a substantial improvement, reducing risk to staff at the time of collection as well as reducing false negatives.
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Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."
Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".
Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.
- Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.
Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.
- The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.
In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."
Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".
Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.
- Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.
Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.
- The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.
In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.
Is that like Mario Cart all the way strawberry road to a cafeteria where mom serves rainbows but doesn’t lose her job? Because covid? Or KISS?
Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."
Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".
Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.
- Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.
Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.
- The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.
In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.
Is that like Mario Cart all the way strawberry road to a cafeteria where mom serves rainbows but doesn’t lose her job? Because covid? Or KISS?>
If you gonna try to disparage me, and/or my mother, with all of your wordsalads, then at least spell the video game correctly.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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There's no such thing as "rights". It's a pipe dream concept.
If the criteria for a right is that it can't be taken away, then there is no such thing as a right. A murderer can take away your very right to breathe and think.
If the criteria for a right is that it can't be taken away, then there is no such thing as a right. A murderer can take away your very right to breathe and think.
A murderer/individual =/= the contract between a country/government and its citizens.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."
Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".
Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.
- Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.
Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.
- The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.
In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.
Is that like Mario Cart all the way strawberry road to a cafeteria where mom serves rainbows but doesn’t lose her job? Because covid? Or KISS?
Sweden appears to be playing Mario Kart against someone they know they can't beat. They just gave up to protect the economy. Sacrificing people along the way to the Gods...er Virus.
Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."
Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".
Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.
- Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.
Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.
- The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.
In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.
Is that like Mario Cart all the way strawberry road to a cafeteria where mom serves rainbows but doesn’t lose her job? Because covid? Or KISS?
Sweden appears to be playing Mario Kart against someone they know they can't beat. They just gave up to protect the economy. Sacrificing people along the way to the Gods...er Virus.
You don't know what you are talking about. Or you haven't been paying attention.
But keep it up.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
This sounds like a silly question but does anyone if Melania is in the White House during these pandemic briefings?
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Yes. Forgive me. I'm not trying to put a biased spin on anything. If you've followed my comments over time, you'll know I'm much more in the middle than most. I don't have a problem with Tucker Carlson for the most part. My post was about the study that focused on Hannity's show. There are a lot of media outlets/ reporting that could have saved lives, like the suggestion that Tucker Carlson's did. Not as many that were as reckless (in my opinion) as Hannity's with downplaying the severity of the disease.
For sure, man. I think we've agreed on a bunch of stuff previously. I just think Vox framed that in a very misleading way to get a predictable response. I'm not sure how useful a study is that compares Hannity and Tucker. It's set up to essentially produce the same headline, regardless of which way the data fell.
Carlson was talking about the dangers of the disease going back to January when countries outside of China first began having infections. His coverage of it has been night-and-day compared to Hannity, who’s just being a Trump cheerleader as always.
The hyperbole of “Carlson saves lives while Hannity kills” or whatever that study suggested actually isn’t that far off. Maybe Carlson doesn’t deserve a medal for it, because it’s not like other cable news outlets weren’t reporting on the dangers of the virus too (though I do think Carlson was ahead of most of them). But if you’re just a typical Fox News viewer who tuned in for information on the virus in this time of crisis, Carlson gave you news and Hannity fed you bullshit.
Carlson’s even been critical of Trump during the last month. He won’t come out and name him (gotta keep your job I guess), but he’s lamented the “federal government” and our “leadership” as problems during the pandemic. Last night or the night before, he did actually call out Trump’s most recent executive order as something that won’t help anything. Carlson’s no prize, but at least he’s not hopeless like Hannity.
Can't disagree with any of that. Tucker's a weird cat. There is some shit where he is dead on, often flying in the face of any Republican orthodoxy (Trumpist or otherwise). Then other times he will have some bonkers/horrific guest or position that it negates everything else. He's like the Rand Paul of cable news.
I agree. And good point on his guests. A perfect example would be Dr. Mark Siegel who Carlson has on constantly. Though I've praised Carlson for being ahead of the game on the virus's dangers, Siegel was WAYYYYY behind. Back in early February, Siegel was like Hannity or most Fox News contributors claiming that the virus wasn't that different than the common flu. He's done an about-face on that of course. But it speaks to your point: I feel Carlson was dead-on with the virus going back to January, but bringing on someone like Siegel night-after-night can negate that.
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st louis and southern illinois still have no timeline to resume elective cases that i have heard.
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Fuck. A. Duck.
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LOL both. I get it! I'm mainly an introvert myself but there are times when I emerge from my shell and really dig being around people. Then I'm satiated with peopleness and crawl back into my hole!
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Saliva is more sensitive for SARS-CoV-2 detection in COVID-19 patients than nasopharyngeal swabs
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20067835v1
Thanks for posting. Small, preliminary study of 44 seriously ill patients (inpatients, a good chunk in ICU) and a companion study of 98 asymptomatic health care workers. Results seem promising but, as always, will need to be replicated in larger studies. If this bears out then it's a substantial improvement, reducing risk to staff at the time of collection as well as reducing false negatives.
Very encouraging- thanks so much for posting this!
Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.
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If you gonna try to disparage me, and/or my mother, with all of your wordsalads, then at least spell the video game correctly.
Thank you
It's a pipe dream concept.
If the criteria for a right is that it can't be taken away, then there is no such thing as a right. A murderer can take away your very right to breathe and think.
We don't have rights, we have social contracts.
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You don't know what you are talking about. Or you haven't been paying attention.
But keep it up.
Peace
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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