"Gigaton" and its tracks on the charts
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So alternative adults love them some Dance of the Clairvoyants.What is that, like the Spectrum on Sirius or something?www.myspace.com0
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The Juggler said:So alternative adults love them some Dance of the Clairvoyants.What is that, like the Spectrum on Sirius or something?Post edited by igotid88 onI miss igotid880
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The Juggler said:So alternative adults love them some Dance of the Clairvoyants.What is that, like the Spectrum on Sirius or something?
*So you can estimate that "Dance of the Clairvoyants" was played about 500 times in aggregate on these radio stations last week. Having a hit at Triple A is like being a big fish in a very small pond. (Although it's worth noting that the Hot 100 is so skewed to streaming now that it is not exactly representative of what people are listening to. The number one song for the last 11 weeks has been Roddy Ricch's "The Box." I regularly ask people from their 20s through their 60s what they think of this song, and almost none of them has ever heard of it or of Ricch. The Hot 100 is weighted about 82 percent to streaming even though the radio audience is still larger than the streaming audience. It's crazy. It's supposed to be an all-genre chart that casts a wide net, but instead it has ended up very narrowly reflecting younger and more urban (i.e., cities-- not "urban" as code for "black" as used in other radio contexts like "urban contemporary") listeners' tastes.Post edited by BF25394 onI gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
He was looking for an example. And the Spectrum is or at least close to a Triple A stationI miss igotid880
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Did charts update today?0
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Dance dropped to #3 on Triple A.Post edited by igotid88 onI miss igotid880
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Updated for week ending April 4, 2020.
Album's release will impact next week's charts. The album looks like it will debut at No. 2 on Top Album Sales (behind 5 Seconds of Summer), although there is a chance it could debut at No. 1. The album will likely debut on the Billboard 200 (which incorporates streaming, not just sales) anywhere from No. 4 to No. 7.
Not including Ten, no Pearl Jam studio album has peaked below No. 5 (Riot Act). So there's a chance this could be Pearl Jam's lowest-charting studio album. However, bear in mind that every other Pearl Jam studio album debuted before the Billboard 200 factored in streaming, so the real analogue is the Top Album Sales chart, on which Gigaton will definitely debut no lower than No. 2.
Unfortunately, the Billboard 200 formula disadvantages artists who sell disproportionately more physical albums, which includes rock artists. Rock accounted for over 40 percent of physical album sales in 2019. The problem is that there is no way for Billboard to track how many times you listen to your CD or vinyl copy of the album. All they can do is count one sale. For genres that are more heavily streamed (e.g., hip-hop and pop), each stream is tracked for every album track. As a result, Pearl Jam is going to sell at least 50 times as many copies of Gigaton as Lil Uzi Vert will sell of his new album this week, but Lil Uzi Vert's album will rank higher because he will have about four times as many streams as Pearl Jam, and streams are weighted more heavily than sales.
Projected Billboard 200:
1. The Weeknd, After Hours: 85-90k total units, 9-12k sales
2. 5 Seconds of Summer, Calm: 75-80k, 60-65k
3. Lil Uzi Vert, Eternal Atake: 75-80k, 1k
4. Pearl Jam, Gigaton: 55-60k, 50-55k
5. Dua Lipa, Future Nostalgia: 55-60k, 15-18k
6. Partynextdoor, Partymobile: 50-55k, 3-4k
7. Lil Baby, My Turn: 50-55k, 1-2k
8. Bad Bunny, YHLQMDLG: 45-50k, <1k
9. Roddy Ricch, Please Excuse Me for Being Antisocial: 37-42k, <1k
10. Post Malone, Hollywood's Bleeding: 35-40k, 1k
Projected Top Album Sales:
1. 5 Seconds of Summer: 60-65k
2. Pearl Jam: 50-55k
3. Dua Lipa: 15-18k
4. Joyner Lucas, ADHD: 10-13k
5. The Weeknd: 9-12k
With respect to first-week performance, here it is for each studio album:
Ten: did not chart upon release
Vs.: #1
Vitalogy: #55*
No Code: #1
Yield: #2
Binaural: #2
Riot Act: #5
Pearl Jam: #2
Backspacer: #1
Lightning Bolt: #1
* Vitalogy debuted at #55 based solely on vinyl sales. The vinyl was released two weeks before the CD. In the second week of vinyl-only release, it fell to #173. In the first week of CD availability (and third week overall on the chart), the album jumped to #1.
Note: All of the debuts listed above were peaks for the respective albums, except Vitalogy (for the reasons described above) and Ten (which eventually reached #2 when it charted).
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I wonder how many were vinyl sales? I think COVID_19 hurt. Because people weren't able to go to their record stores. Those that don't streamI miss igotid880
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Hopefully, I'll get the vinyl number next week. You're probably right about COVID-19.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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Think i read that physical sales were down 40%.In the streaming age i dont even understand the charts anymore.0
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cp3iverson said:Think i read that physical sales were down 40%.In the streaming age i dont even understand the charts anymore.I miss igotid880
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The fact that The Who sold 89k their first week. And PJ might not get to 60k.
These projections were from Monday. So what's the likelihood we can make that number go higher? I did my partI miss igotid880 -
igotid88 said:The fact that The Who sold 89k their first week. And PJ might not get to 60k.
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One other factor in this is that it's not entirely clear whether the Ten Club reports its direct-to-members sales to Soundscan. If the Ten Club does report its sales, I have trouble figuring how the total sales number would be as low as 50-55,000. Many members of the Ten Club (including me) buy the album in two formats, CD and LP. If there are 200,000 active members of the Ten Club, you would get to 50-55,000 if only 25-27.5 percent of members bought a copy-- and that's without selling a single copy at retail. It would reflect an even smaller percentage considering that many Ten Club members buy two formats.
There are so few retailers who still sell albums that the impact of store shutdowns may be limited. I suspect that the majority of retail sales are through online orders (e.g., Amazon). Many independent record stores are not set up to report to Soundscan, so those sales won't be captured and, relatively speaking, they account for more and more of brick-and-mortar sales with Best Buy, Target and other big retailers shrinking their music departments.
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igotid88 said:The fact that The Who sold 89k their first week. And PJ might not get to 60k.
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BF25394 said:One other factor in this is that it's not entirely clear whether the Ten Club reports its direct-to-members sales to Soundscan. If the Ten Club does report its sales, I have trouble figuring how the total sales number would be as low as 50-55,000. Many members of the Ten Club (including me) buy the album in two formats, CD and LP. If there are 200,000 active members of the Ten Club, you would get to 50-55,000 if only 25-27.5 percent of members bought a copy-- and that's without selling a single copy at retail. It would reflect an even smaller percentage considering that many Ten Club members buy two formats.
There are so few retailers who still sell albums that the impact of store shutdowns may be limited. I suspect that the majority of retail sales are through online orders (e.g., Amazon). Many independent record stores are not set up to report to Soundscan, so those sales won't be captured and, relatively speaking, they account for more and more of brick-and-mortar sales with Best Buy, Target and other big retailers shrinking their music departments.
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Need SBWM to enter the Alternative chart. They're 2 behind U2 for the most entriesPost edited by igotid88 onI miss igotid880
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Another factor to consider for the Billboard charts is that these days most artists tie their albums to their concert ticket sales which obviously Pearl Jam doesn't do. So for instance, this past week a good portion of the Weeknd's album "sales" came from people who bought tickets to his concert and got the album free with it.0
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Don't know why I should care about album sales at all....but I do, lol. *shakes fist*0
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mshnayder said:Another factor to consider for the Billboard charts is that these days most artists tie their albums to their concert ticket sales which obviously Pearl Jam doesn't do. So for instance, this past week a good portion of the Weeknd's album "sales" came from people who bought tickets to his concert and got the album free with it.I miss igotid880
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