The coronavirus

mace1229 said:

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The My Pillow guy is addressing the press in the rose garden. WTF? 

Par for the course, I'm afraid.

Why are people upset over this? He’s making medical equipment instead of pillows , isn’t that what we need? I don’t get why people make fun of him for this. 

The other funny thing when I googled My Pillow I scrolled through the top 10 results. Only the conservative news outlets mentioned him making medical equipment and the Liberal ones focused on him getting a free informercial. I really don’t get it, we are in need of equipment so we put someone down whos willing to make it?

If I was a conservative CEO I’d think twice about helping out seeing how Mike was thrown under the bus for doing that. 

rgambs said:

mace1229 said:

mfc2006 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The My Pillow guy is addressing the press in the rose garden. WTF? 

Par for the course, I'm afraid.

Why are people upset over this? He’s making medical equipment instead of pillows , isn’t that what we need? I don’t get why people make fun of him for this. 

The other funny thing when I googled My Pillow I scrolled through the top 10 results. Only the conservative news outlets mentioned him making medical equipment and the Liberal ones focused on him getting a free informercial. I really don’t get it, we are in need of equipment so we put someone down whos willing to make it?

If I was a conservative CEO I’d think twice about helping out seeing how Mike was thrown under the bus for doing that. 

It's just that the guy is super chummy with Rush and Hannity and some real nutballs.  It's easy to look at it from the other side too, tons of not-uberconservative companies are doing the same and they aren't getting to red carpet treatment like this guy did.

MayDay10 said:

My daily positivity boost

Italy's new cases yesterday were the least since St. Patrick's day.  They have been trending down on new cases for 5 days.  It could be an indication that they are entering the back-side of that sharp curve and could get a handle on things before too long.

Fauci says that data is indicating that social distancing is working in the USA.  We are going to see some tough days through April and will get a bit hairy.  But it will be 'better' than it could have been.  If things progress we could get a handle on this by May.  With a coherent and extensive testing/tracking/containment program, I could see various segments of business opening up in sections of the country in June (which is what Trump may have been alluding to with his June 1st date).  

And we are another day closer to an approved vaccine.

So hang in there everyone.  Stay safe.  Try not to focus on the negative and feed into your anxiety.  

gimmesometruth27 said:

the doctor from south korea just said on this call that they are implementing social distancing as their new normal going forward. wow.

gimmesometruth27 said:

rgambs said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i am on a conference call with leading orthopaedic surgeons across the world. they are sharing their experiences now. there is one from italy, south korea, argentina, and a few from the us. the guy from italy said that they stopped all elective surgeries on 3/1/2020 and they were not able to get a handle on it even after stopping that early. he said that he has lost 4 people close to him, including a 56 year old colleague. he said that it is a "horrible, horrible death" and reinforced the fact that this is very serious and that americans should continue to distance and take it seriously. scary stuff. i was in a 9 hour surgery yesterday and have to cover cases on wed and thursday. i am really getting concerned.

Are you still in orthopedics?  The sheer volume of PPE used and wasted would shock...pretty much anyone who doesn't work orthopedics, really.  Even in a hospital setting, most people don't understand that volume unless they've seen it.

i would not call it all wasted.

there is a ton of blood splatter and fluid splatter in orthopedics. you knock one of the plastic bags that captures the used arthroscopy fluid on your legs, you are gonna change gowns. soiled gloves, i mean seriously soiled gloves with dry blood need to be changed because you can't grip the equipment with dried blood caked on to your gloves. You get someone bleeding without a tourniquet and you get blood on your mask, you need to change it. i used to scrub before i went into sales. a lot of it looks like waste, and a lot of disposable things like anchors fail and get wasted. I used to change masks after every case. when you scrub you can get blood drops on your bouffant, glasses, and masks. we used to call that "getting blessed", and it is damn nasty. The masks get moist inside when you wear them for a few hours and it is a gross feeling, so we used to change them frequently. now that there is a shortage, some facilities are telling staff to use the same mask for an entire week. that is just naaasty.

The number of coronavirus deaths in New Jersey surged to 267 on Tuesday with the largest single-day increase in deaths as the outbreak continues to widen with 18,696 total coronavirus cases statewide.

Gov. Phil Murphy said there were 69 new deaths including a Passaic County firefighter.

rgambs said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

rgambs said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i am on a conference call with leading orthopaedic surgeons across the world. they are sharing their experiences now. there is one from italy, south korea, argentina, and a few from the us. the guy from italy said that they stopped all elective surgeries on 3/1/2020 and they were not able to get a handle on it even after stopping that early. he said that he has lost 4 people close to him, including a 56 year old colleague. he said that it is a "horrible, horrible death" and reinforced the fact that this is very serious and that americans should continue to distance and take it seriously. scary stuff. i was in a 9 hour surgery yesterday and have to cover cases on wed and thursday. i am really getting concerned.

Are you still in orthopedics?  The sheer volume of PPE used and wasted would shock...pretty much anyone who doesn't work orthopedics, really.  Even in a hospital setting, most people don't understand that volume unless they've seen it.

i would not call it all wasted.

there is a ton of blood splatter and fluid splatter in orthopedics. you knock one of the plastic bags that captures the used arthroscopy fluid on your legs, you are gonna change gowns. soiled gloves, i mean seriously soiled gloves with dry blood need to be changed because you can't grip the equipment with dried blood caked on to your gloves. You get someone bleeding without a tourniquet and you get blood on your mask, you need to change it. i used to scrub before i went into sales. a lot of it looks like waste, and a lot of disposable things like anchors fail and get wasted. I used to change masks after every case. when you scrub you can get blood drops on your bouffant, glasses, and masks. we used to call that "getting blessed", and it is damn nasty. The masks get moist inside when you wear them for a few hours and it is a gross feeling, so we used to change them frequently. now that there is a shortage, some facilities are telling staff to use the same mask for an entire week. that is just naaasty.

Yeah I didn't mean any of that for waste, I was mostly talking about the presets that come up from the SPD.  They can't tailor every set to each individual doctor, but each does things differently.  So you end up with a ton of single use equipment that doesn't get used because it isn't preferred by the doc.

Then otherwise, just the sheer volume in joint replacements is staggering.  I would personally wear 8-10 masks, 4-6 pairs of booties/boot covers, 2-4 hats, 6-10 pairs nitrile gloves, and upwards of 15 pairs of sterile gloves in a day of joint replacements.