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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited April 2020
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    Is it likely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    I think that depends on who carries the box up and puts it on your porch.  Or who sneezes on the box.
    I just feel they are pushing that, in spite of what many other reports are, to help restaurants keep some business going though delivery.  

    And, I get that desire.  But, I am suspicious of their motive 
    I have not (and will not) order anything I don't cook and or quarantine for a period of time 


    In for a penny, in for a pound 
    It's people like you

    WHO MADE MY MOM LOSE HER JOB



    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    Is it likely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    I think that depends on who carries the box up and puts it on your porch.  Or who sneezes on the box.
    I just feel they are pushing that, in spite of what many other reports are, to help restaurants keep some business going though delivery.  

    And, I get that desire.  But, I am suspicious of their motive 
    I have not (and will not) order anything I don't cook and or quarantine for a period of time 


    In for a penny, in for a pound 
    It's people like you

    WHO MADE MY MOM LOSE HER JOB



    I thought malls and restaurants were open in Sweden? With little to no social distancing? Everybody out and about doing their thing?
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    Is it likely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    I think that depends on who carries the box up and puts it on your porch.  Or who sneezes on the box.
    I just feel they are pushing that, in spite of what many other reports are, to help restaurants keep some business going though delivery.  

    And, I get that desire.  But, I am suspicious of their motive 
    I have not (and will not) order anything I don't cook and or quarantine for a period of time 


    In for a penny, in for a pound 
    It's people like you

    WHO MADE MY MOM LOSE HER JOB



    I know you're mostly joking, but for all you know, though, people like @F Me In The Brain may have or live with someone who is at a high risk of serious to lethal illness.

    That being said, I live with two such people and have gotten takeout the past two nights. :lol:
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    Please update your GIFs above.

    Thank you.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    No. :tongue:
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • I do live with one such person and have food here.  Don't need to do the order out thing.  

    Also, I believe I have already had the virus just as all of this started to happen, and I still am going to be all in (if in at all) for as long as it takes to get a test which can indicate with some reasonable accuracy that I have had it or not.

    I don't see the point of doing stuff half or 3/4 way.  Just not my style.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    Is it likely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    I think that depends on who carries the box up and puts it on your porch.  Or who sneezes on the box.
    I just feel they are pushing that, in spite of what many other reports are, to help restaurants keep some business going though delivery.  

    And, I get that desire.  But, I am suspicious of their motive 
    I have not (and will not) order anything I don't cook and or quarantine for a period of time 


    In for a penny, in for a pound 
    It's people like you

    WHO MADE MY MOM LOSE HER JOB



    #metoo.
    If I didn't cook it, I don't trust it.  
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,411
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    Is it likely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    I think that depends on who carries the box up and puts it on your porch.  Or who sneezes on the box.
    I just feel they are pushing that, in spite of what many other reports are, to help restaurants keep some business going though delivery.  

    And, I get that desire.  But, I am suspicious of their motive 
    I have not (and will not) order anything I don't cook and or quarantine for a period of time 


    In for a penny, in for a pound 
    It's people like you

    WHO MADE MY MOM LOSE HER JOB



    I thought malls and restaurants were open in Sweden? With little to no social distancing? Everybody out and about doing their thing?

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Motivated by money.  
    It is truly awful advice 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    static111 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    Wait you mean people don’t actually need what baby cow’s need? 
    I've always found this interesting.

     https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/12/27/168144785/an-evolutionary-whodunit-how-did-humans-develop-lactose-tolerance

    Benefits of being lactase persistent in adulthoodEdit

    The consumption of lactose has been shown to benefit humans with lactase persistence through adulthood. For example, the 2009 British Women's Heart and Health Study[46] investigated the effects on women's health of the alleles that coded for lactase persistence. Where the C allele indicated lactase nonpersistence and the T allele indicated lactase persistence, the study found that women who were homozygous for the C allele exhibited worse health than women with a C and a T allele and women with two T alleles. Women who were CC reported more hip and wrist fractures, more osteoporosis, and more cataracts than the other groups.[47] They also were on average 4–6 mm shorter than the other women, as well as slightly lighter in weight.[47] In addition, factors such as metabolic traits, socioeconomic status, lifestyle, and fertility were found to be unrelated to the findings, thus it can be concluded that the lactase persistence benefited the health of these women who consumed dairy products and exhibited lactase persistence


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase_persistence

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited April 2020
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    It is terrible in my opinion.
    See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

    Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.


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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493


    According to a daily report on the corona situation from the County Administrative Board, there are now “signs of flock immunity in Stockholm”.

    Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke is not surprised by the conclusion:
    - Yes, it is perfectly reasonable that being the case. 50 percent of Stockholmers will have had covid-19 within a month.

    He bases his view on the DNA tests and antibody studies done so far.
    - Right now, about 30 percent of Stockholmers have had this infection. It's about 500,000-600,000 people, says Johan Giesecke.

    What are the consequences?
    - It will have small consequences for all these restrictions in our daily lives, they will be put in place for some time, but that means we have better control over the spread.

    When can we feel we are passed this?
    - We cannot by then because there are always some that are not infected. But when you reach 60 percent, you can safely say that it is about to shrink away.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    True, besides, everyone knows that plastic and children are magical and incapable of transmitting the virus. 
    It's a well-known supernatural phenomenon called the Giesecke-Effect.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Dude has good taste in eyeglass frames though 👌
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited April 2020
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    It is terrible in my opinion.
    See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

    Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.


    Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

    And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

    Etc. 

    And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    edited April 2020
    rgambs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    True, besides, everyone knows that plastic and children are magical and incapable of transmitting the virus. 
    It's a well-known supernatural phenomenon called the Giesecke-Effect.
    Show me those schools outbreaks m8.

    Countries are opening up their schools now. Sweden leads the way once again. This is the 1970s law against corporal punisment of children all over again. Sweden the avant garde. Leading the pack. Ahead of the curve. ABBA.






    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    It is terrible in my opinion.
    See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

    Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.


    Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

    And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

    Etc. 

    And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.
    None of us (or at least you nor I) are the types of experts to know for sure
    People we both believe are experts say they are unsure, right?

    Either way ...I don't like the FDA.  
    I still think they should be involved if that is the process.  

    I hope the tests work

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    It is terrible in my opinion.
    See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

    Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.


    Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

    And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

    Etc. 

    And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.
    None of us (or at least you nor I) are the types of experts to know for sure
    People we both believe are experts say they are unsure, right?

    Either way ...I don't like the FDA.  
    I still think they should be involved if that is the process.  

    I hope the tests work

    I'm not defending the FDA here. I bet they are trash.

    But one expert says:

    Someone asks - how long does the virus live on different surfaces. 

    Giesecke: There are different information coming about that - from minutes to a day. A day I do not believe. But for a while it will live.


    :)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Well godjohan would wipe the groceries it sounds like.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,411
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    I have enough authority to form an opinion that it’s awful advice. People do gross shit. Cough in their hand, touch a box of cereal, then put it back. I’d rather wipe my shit down thanks. I live in NYC. I’m wiping my stuff. Thanks fir your input though. Useful
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    It is terrible in my opinion.
    See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

    Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.


    Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

    And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

    Etc. 

    And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.
    None of us (or at least you nor I) are the types of experts to know for sure
    People we both believe are experts say they are unsure, right?

    Either way ...I don't like the FDA.  
    I still think they should be involved if that is the process.  

    I hope the tests work

    I'm not defending the FDA here. I bet they are trash.

    But one expert says:

    Someone asks - how long does the virus live on different surfaces. 

    Giesecke: There are different information coming about that - from minutes to a day. A day I do not believe. But for a while it will live.


    :)
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973

    What now Giesecke??
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    I have enough authority to form an opinion that it’s awful advice. People do gross shit. Cough in their hand, touch a box of cereal, then put it back. I’d rather wipe my shit down thanks. I live in NYC. I’m wiping my stuff. Thanks fir your input though. Usefu

    Lol. I guess the FDA forgot, and the Swedish PHA and mastermind Giesecke have disregarded NYC.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    rgambs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    It is terrible in my opinion.
    See they present as fact and use an escape clause like "little risk" when we know from actual experts over and over that this stuff can live on different materials ...including cardboard and plastic.

    Again, they pushed milk and bread on everyone as what they needed to be eating to be healthy and that is hogwash.


    Science and facts and "opinions" are two different things though. 

    And a baseless opinion could also lead one into thinking desifinacting streets etc is a good thing. 

    Etc. 

    And you should not drink milk. Be vegan.
    None of us (or at least you nor I) are the types of experts to know for sure
    People we both believe are experts say they are unsure, right?

    Either way ...I don't like the FDA.  
    I still think they should be involved if that is the process.  

    I hope the tests work

    I'm not defending the FDA here. I bet they are trash.

    But one expert says:

    Someone asks - how long does the virus live on different surfaces. 

    Giesecke: There are different information coming about that - from minutes to a day. A day I do not believe. But for a while it will live.


    :)
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973

    What now Giesecke??
    What does it say?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,411
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    I have enough authority to form an opinion that it’s awful advice. People do gross shit. Cough in their hand, touch a box of cereal, then put it back. I’d rather wipe my shit down thanks. I live in NYC. I’m wiping my stuff. Thanks fir your input though. Usefu

    Lol. I guess the FDA forgot, and the Swedish PHA and mastermind Giesecke have disregarded NYC.
    I know where you stand. The constant Sweden posts make it clear. I choose to be vigilant. Thanks again 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    Either more brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy or just more of the same chaotic and haphazard response to the pandemic.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/politics/rick-bright-vaccine-agency-coronavirus/index.html

    And don't worry, just take it, what do you have to lose?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/health/hydroxychloroquine-veterans-study/index.html
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,493
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    I have enough authority to form an opinion that it’s awful advice. People do gross shit. Cough in their hand, touch a box of cereal, then put it back. I’d rather wipe my shit down thanks. I live in NYC. I’m wiping my stuff. Thanks fir your input though. Usefu

    Lol. I guess the FDA forgot, and the Swedish PHA and mastermind Giesecke have disregarded NYC.
    I know where you stand.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,974
    Say what?


    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,435
    rgambs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    The FDA that is approving the home test is the same FDA that said it is unlikely to catch the virus from food delivery?
    The same FDA that put bread, cereal, pasta on the food pyramid?  That pushed Milk on the country as a crucial part of our diets?

    Motivated by money.  I'm sure they do many fine things and I would rather have some testing vs no testing by a governing body, but I am always suspicious of the FDA 
    I honestly was shocked when they said it wasn’t necessary to wipe down groceries. People touch stuff and put them back every second. How could you recommend to not wipe down anything that comes in from a store? Terrible advice 
    Doubt you really have enough authority on the subject to decide if the advice is terrible or not.
    True, besides, everyone knows that plastic and children are magical and incapable of transmitting the virus. 
    It's a well-known supernatural phenomenon called the Giesecke-Effect.
    Show me those schools outbreaks m8.

    Countries are opening up their schools now. Sweden leads the way once again. This is the 1970s law against corporal punisment of children all over again. Sweden the avant garde. Leading the pack. Ahead of the curve. ABBA.






    Sweden isn't leading, but it is #10 on the most deaths/1M population due to coronavirus.  I think it was an interesting idea to see how it would play out, unfortunately people were at risk of dying.  Now - it isn't over.  Maybe other countries with a second wave or whatever will fly past Sweden in this terrible statistic.  

    Regardless, I just hope this ends soon.
    hippiemom = goodness
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