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Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
The worst of times..they don't phase me, even if I look and act really crazy.
Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
That second hump is exactly aligned with the flu season, so I’m not convinced the interventions had much to do with it or not.
And I believe most protesters just want common sense measure. Not just blindly and willy nilly deciding what people can and can’t do, which several governors seem to have taken as their approach.
Counterpoint: I believe the protesters just want an excuse to shoot somebody. While governors are relying on actual experts scientists and professional opinion.
Yeah, I'll believe these people...
...over these any day:
So it was the doctors who said go line up to buy a lottery ticket, but it’s illegal to listen to a church service in your car?
The problem is those doctors in that picture aren’t making the decions, and many of the decisions ate not based off any medical or professional advice. Some states have restricted lake access to lakeside homes while others allow it as long as its a powerless boat. That to me makes no sense. Michigan has essentially banned all gardening sales and forced stores to block off gardening isles while much of the store still sells non essential items. 90% of Costco isn’t essential, why target gardening and not liquor and lottery sales? And that’s the problem, doctors have made none of those decisions. It’s governors or other local officials and much of it makes no sense as to what you can and can’t do or buy. Some governors have gone way overboard.
Minnesota told people not to visit their summer cabins for a few reasons:
travel spreads CV19
people who own cabin homes are disproportionately older demographic
rural areas are less likely to follow social distancing guidelines because apparently CV19 is 'an urban problem'
rural hospitals have less resources and will be easily overwhelmed
The MN gov actually explained it pretty clearly, wrapping up with, 'more people will die'
Liquor & lottery is essential because can you imagine what will happen to community health if all the gambling addicts and alcoholics can't suddenly get booze or scratchers? (hint: it's not good)
Gardening hasn't been targeted. People can still shop online for pickup or delivery. These are bored old folks who just want to spend hours wandering their local Home Depot (infecting other old folks).
Powerless boats were omitted because kayaks, canoes and sailboats hold less people. Would you rather all boats were restricted?
These things all make sense if you just take a moment to think logically. Or if you listened to the explanations that have clearly been given over and over and over again.
I’m not buying any of that (except maybe the wondering Home Depot, but then ban all non essential sales). But then be uniform with that decision, make Costco bam all non essential sales too, and not just Home Depot and gardening. It’s like trying to solve the gun problem by banning all Colts and doing nothing else. Makes no sense.
My parents have a second home and it’s just like you described. They are staying there most of the time because it is rural. When they need supplies the local grocery store is stocked, hasn’t run out of toilet paper, no line to get in, etc. their primary home is just outside Sacramento, much higher rate for cases, stores are crowded. Makes so much more sense for them to stay at their second home. They drive to the primary home about once every 2 weeks, drive straight there, bring groceries with them and don’t leave once they get there. But they go to mow the lawn, check on things, etc. I see zero reason to not allow that.
Not all boats are massive power boats. Plenty of motor boats are small 2 or 4 person fishing boats. Plenty of sail boats can hold 10+ people. Instead of banning motor boats if that is the reason then wouldn’t it make more sense to limit boat capacity to 2 people? That’s what I mean by the regulations not making sense. If you’re worried about number of people then limit the number of people, not type of boat.
So people with addictions to scratchers get a free pass during this time and everyone else is told to stay home? Not buying that one.
I don’t have a problem with liquor stores being open and selling lottery tickets. I do have a problem with the government that allows that also stepping and stopping a church service that several members are listening to via the radio from their car in the parking lot, Parked many feet apart and windows rolled up.
I have a problem with a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park, but because you have an addiction to scratchers you can go ahead and line up in a liquor store. Well I have an addiction to quality time with my kids.
You're talking about anecdotal evidence, when the law of large numbers applies.
The CV19 virus doesn't care if you 'aren't buying it'.
Or more accurately, don't understand: It's risk mitigation. Not risk elimination.
So I see instead of trying to explain why if you’re worried about sheer numbers of people on a boat it doesn’t make sense to limit boat capacity and instead just ban certain types of boats that may or may not have a large capacity while allowing other boats that also may or may not have a large capacity and instead just say I don’t understand.
Or don’t bother to explain why it is bad to allow people to practice their religion from their car during the 2 most important weeks in Christianity and instead say but people will be pissed if you don’t let them line up to buy their weekly lottery and see how they act. Yeah? Are they going to be more pissed than the people already protesting?
I just don’t understand how viruses work. Gotchya..
My dumb ass just thinks it’s more effective to say no more than 2 people on a boat rather than banning some boats and not others and cross my fingers only small groups happen to be allowed.
But anecdotal and I don’t understand.
The Department of Natural Resources has gotten many reports about the heavy use of boat launches across the state, and the congregation of people at the launches.
"In addition, people who use motorized watercraft typically have to procure secondary services for their craft, such as parts and gasoline, that could unnecessarily increase contact with others and spread disease," the DNR said. "The hope is that the prohibition on the use of motorized watercraft will reduce the movement of people within the state and potential contact among people, with the intent of slowing the spread of the coronavirus."
Get it yet?
I think we’ll just have to disagree. I still think there’s a much more effective way. Powerless boats can still use boat launches.
Close boat launches, limit boat capacity, make boat repair shops non essential and that is going to be more effective. People with private lake access or a dock can still enjoy the outdoors which is good for everyone.
My point that got lost in this debate is some governors have pushed their restrictions too far. And boats are just one of dozens of examples if you don’t agree with me about the boat. I don’t think protesting is the right thing to do right now but I can understand why people are upset.
That second hump is exactly aligned with the flu season, so I’m not convinced the interventions had much to do with it or not.
And I believe most protesters just want common sense measure. Not just blindly and willy nilly deciding what people can and can’t do, which several governors seem to have taken as their approach.
Counterpoint: I believe the protesters just want an excuse to shoot somebody. While governors are relying on actual experts scientists and professional opinion.
Yeah, I'll believe these people...
...over these any day:
So it was the doctors who said go line up to buy a lottery ticket, but it’s illegal to listen to a church service in your car?
The problem is those doctors in that picture aren’t making the decions, and many of the decisions ate not based off any medical or professional advice. Some states have restricted lake access to lakeside homes while others allow it as long as its a powerless boat. That to me makes no sense. Michigan has essentially banned all gardening sales and forced stores to block off gardening isles while much of the store still sells non essential items. 90% of Costco isn’t essential, why target gardening and not liquor and lottery sales? And that’s the problem, doctors have made none of those decisions. It’s governors or other local officials and much of it makes no sense as to what you can and can’t do or buy. Some governors have gone way overboard.
Minnesota told people not to visit their summer cabins for a few reasons:
travel spreads CV19
people who own cabin homes are disproportionately older demographic
rural areas are less likely to follow social distancing guidelines because apparently CV19 is 'an urban problem'
rural hospitals have less resources and will be easily overwhelmed
The MN gov actually explained it pretty clearly, wrapping up with, 'more people will die'
Liquor & lottery is essential because can you imagine what will happen to community health if all the gambling addicts and alcoholics can't suddenly get booze or scratchers? (hint: it's not good)
Gardening hasn't been targeted. People can still shop online for pickup or delivery. These are bored old folks who just want to spend hours wandering their local Home Depot (infecting other old folks).
Powerless boats were omitted because kayaks, canoes and sailboats hold less people. Would you rather all boats were restricted?
These things all make sense if you just take a moment to think logically. Or if you listened to the explanations that have clearly been given over and over and over again.
I’m not buying any of that (except maybe the wondering Home Depot, but then ban all non essential sales). But then be uniform with that decision, make Costco bam all non essential sales too, and not just Home Depot and gardening. It’s like trying to solve the gun problem by banning all Colts and doing nothing else. Makes no sense.
My parents have a second home and it’s just like you described. They are staying there most of the time because it is rural. When they need supplies the local grocery store is stocked, hasn’t run out of toilet paper, no line to get in, etc. their primary home is just outside Sacramento, much higher rate for cases, stores are crowded. Makes so much more sense for them to stay at their second home. They drive to the primary home about once every 2 weeks, drive straight there, bring groceries with them and don’t leave once they get there. But they go to mow the lawn, check on things, etc. I see zero reason to not allow that.
Not all boats are massive power boats. Plenty of motor boats are small 2 or 4 person fishing boats. Plenty of sail boats can hold 10+ people. Instead of banning motor boats if that is the reason then wouldn’t it make more sense to limit boat capacity to 2 people? That’s what I mean by the regulations not making sense. If you’re worried about number of people then limit the number of people, not type of boat.
So people with addictions to scratchers get a free pass during this time and everyone else is told to stay home? Not buying that one.
I don’t have a problem with liquor stores being open and selling lottery tickets. I do have a problem with the government that allows that also stepping and stopping a church service that several members are listening to via the radio from their car in the parking lot, Parked many feet apart and windows rolled up.
I have a problem with a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park, but because you have an addiction to scratchers you can go ahead and line up in a liquor store. Well I have an addiction to quality time with my kids.
You're talking about anecdotal evidence, when the law of large numbers applies.
The CV19 virus doesn't care if you 'aren't buying it'.
Or more accurately, don't understand: It's risk mitigation. Not risk elimination.
So I see instead of trying to explain why if you’re worried about sheer numbers of people on a boat it doesn’t make sense to limit boat capacity and instead just ban certain types of boats that may or may not have a large capacity while allowing other boats that also may or may not have a large capacity and instead just say I don’t understand.
Or don’t bother to explain why it is bad to allow people to practice their religion from their car during the 2 most important weeks in Christianity and instead say but people will be pissed if you don’t let them line up to buy their weekly lottery and see how they act. Yeah? Are they going to be more pissed than the people already protesting?
I just don’t understand how viruses work. Gotchya..
My dumb ass just thinks it’s more effective to say no more than 2 people on a boat rather than banning some boats and not others and cross my fingers only small groups happen to be allowed.
But anecdotal and I don’t understand.
Because the sad fact is people bend the rules. It’s unfortunately but the only way to actually get compliance is to have an all or none policy for the most part.
Is it right? Not really. But since people won’t comply, it’s all you have left to do.
Look - breaches could be open with social distancing...then you get parties of beach goers all getting the virus. People are dumb, not the bannings.
Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
That’s huge.
Yes it is , will see how the rest of this week goes but everyone here is very optimistic..
Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
That’s huge.
Yes it is , will see how the rest of this week goes but everyone here is very optimistic..
Man, I hope we are getting closer and closer. I know we don’t always see eye to eye but I’m grateful for what you do and Appreciate the updates. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
That’s huge.
Yes it is , will see how the rest of this week goes but everyone here is very optimistic..
Man, I hope we are getting closer and closer. I know we don’t always see eye to eye but I’m grateful for what you do and Appreciate the updates. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
It’s all positive man I’m done bickering here everyone is entitled to their opinion it’s good to debate but not cool to take it to a personal level, stay safe I’m hoping we get back to some form of normalcy..
Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
That’s huge.
Yes it is , will see how the rest of this week goes but everyone here is very optimistic..
Man, I hope we are getting closer and closer. I know we don’t always see eye to eye but I’m grateful for what you do and Appreciate the updates. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
It’s all positive man I’m done bickering here everyone is entitled to their opinion it’s good to debate but not cool to take it to a personal level, stay safe I’m hoping we get back to some form of normalcy..
I think you are still just feeling that 4/20 vibe lol
That second hump is exactly aligned with the flu season, so I’m not convinced the interventions had much to do with it or not.
And I believe most protesters just want common sense measure. Not just blindly and willy nilly deciding what people can and can’t do, which several governors seem to have taken as their approach.
Counterpoint: I believe the protesters just want an excuse to shoot somebody. While governors are relying on actual experts scientists and professional opinion.
Yeah, I'll believe these people...
...over these any day:
So it was the doctors who said go line up to buy a lottery ticket, but it’s illegal to listen to a church service in your car?
The problem is those doctors in that picture aren’t making the decions, and many of the decisions ate not based off any medical or professional advice. Some states have restricted lake access to lakeside homes while others allow it as long as its a powerless boat. That to me makes no sense. Michigan has essentially banned all gardening sales and forced stores to block off gardening isles while much of the store still sells non essential items. 90% of Costco isn’t essential, why target gardening and not liquor and lottery sales? And that’s the problem, doctors have made none of those decisions. It’s governors or other local officials and much of it makes no sense as to what you can and can’t do or buy. Some governors have gone way overboard.
Minnesota told people not to visit their summer cabins for a few reasons:
travel spreads CV19
people who own cabin homes are disproportionately older demographic
rural areas are less likely to follow social distancing guidelines because apparently CV19 is 'an urban problem'
rural hospitals have less resources and will be easily overwhelmed
The MN gov actually explained it pretty clearly, wrapping up with, 'more people will die'
Liquor & lottery is essential because can you imagine what will happen to community health if all the gambling addicts and alcoholics can't suddenly get booze or scratchers? (hint: it's not good)
Gardening hasn't been targeted. People can still shop online for pickup or delivery. These are bored old folks who just want to spend hours wandering their local Home Depot (infecting other old folks).
Powerless boats were omitted because kayaks, canoes and sailboats hold less people. Would you rather all boats were restricted?
These things all make sense if you just take a moment to think logically. Or if you listened to the explanations that have clearly been given over and over and over again.
I’m not buying any of that (except maybe the wondering Home Depot, but then ban all non essential sales). But then be uniform with that decision, make Costco bam all non essential sales too, and not just Home Depot and gardening. It’s like trying to solve the gun problem by banning all Colts and doing nothing else. Makes no sense.
My parents have a second home and it’s just like you described. They are staying there most of the time because it is rural. When they need supplies the local grocery store is stocked, hasn’t run out of toilet paper, no line to get in, etc. their primary home is just outside Sacramento, much higher rate for cases, stores are crowded. Makes so much more sense for them to stay at their second home. They drive to the primary home about once every 2 weeks, drive straight there, bring groceries with them and don’t leave once they get there. But they go to mow the lawn, check on things, etc. I see zero reason to not allow that.
Not all boats are massive power boats. Plenty of motor boats are small 2 or 4 person fishing boats. Plenty of sail boats can hold 10+ people. Instead of banning motor boats if that is the reason then wouldn’t it make more sense to limit boat capacity to 2 people? That’s what I mean by the regulations not making sense. If you’re worried about number of people then limit the number of people, not type of boat.
So people with addictions to scratchers get a free pass during this time and everyone else is told to stay home? Not buying that one.
I don’t have a problem with liquor stores being open and selling lottery tickets. I do have a problem with the government that allows that also stepping and stopping a church service that several members are listening to via the radio from their car in the parking lot, Parked many feet apart and windows rolled up.
I have a problem with a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park, but because you have an addiction to scratchers you can go ahead and line up in a liquor store. Well I have an addiction to quality time with my kids.
You're talking about anecdotal evidence, when the law of large numbers applies.
The CV19 virus doesn't care if you 'aren't buying it'.
Or more accurately, don't understand: It's risk mitigation. Not risk elimination.
So I see instead of trying to explain why if you’re worried about sheer numbers of people on a boat it doesn’t make sense to limit boat capacity and instead just ban certain types of boats that may or may not have a large capacity while allowing other boats that also may or may not have a large capacity and instead just say I don’t understand.
Or don’t bother to explain why it is bad to allow people to practice their religion from their car during the 2 most important weeks in Christianity and instead say but people will be pissed if you don’t let them line up to buy their weekly lottery and see how they act. Yeah? Are they going to be more pissed than the people already protesting?
I just don’t understand how viruses work. Gotchya..
My dumb ass just thinks it’s more effective to say no more than 2 people on a boat rather than banning some boats and not others and cross my fingers only small groups happen to be allowed.
But anecdotal and I don’t understand.
The Department of Natural Resources has gotten many reports about the heavy use of boat launches across the state, and the congregation of people at the launches.
"In addition, people who use motorized watercraft typically have to procure secondary services for their craft, such as parts and gasoline, that could unnecessarily increase contact with others and spread disease," the DNR said. "The hope is that the prohibition on the use of motorized watercraft will reduce the movement of people within the state and potential contact among people, with the intent of slowing the spread of the coronavirus."
Get it yet?
I think we’ll just have to disagree. I still think there’s a much more effective way. Powerless boats can still use boat launches.
Close boat launches, limit boat capacity, make boat repair shops non essential and that is going to be more effective. People with private lake access or a dock can still enjoy the outdoors which is good for everyone.
My point that got lost in this debate is some governors have pushed their restrictions too far. And boats are just one of dozens of examples if you don’t agree with me about the boat. I don’t think protesting is the right thing to do right now but I can understand why people are upset.
Your points are valid. Some states have incremental regulations that are negligible for spread but make a difficult situation worse for people. There are people on here you can have reasonable discussions with and people you can't. Sometimes you just gotta eject yourself from a conversation.
Yeah. I can nitpick some things that don’t make sense to me (lottery) but there’s no magic formula. One hundred people on board with mandated social distancing would come up with 100 different lists of what can still operate and whether/how to limit numbers.
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Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
That’s huge.
Yes it is , will see how the rest of this week goes but everyone here is very optimistic..
Man, I hope we are getting closer and closer. I know we don’t always see eye to eye but I’m grateful for what you do and Appreciate the updates. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
It’s all positive man I’m done bickering here everyone is entitled to their opinion it’s good to debate but not cool to take it to a personal level, stay safe I’m hoping we get back to some form of normalcy..
Positive news from this hospital it looks like 3 floors are converting back to regular patients meaning those floors were all Covid19 and the ER didn’t have any C19 patients, so this is all good news for the time being..
That’s huge.
Yes it is , will see how the rest of this week goes but everyone here is very optimistic..
Man, I hope we are getting closer and closer. I know we don’t always see eye to eye but I’m grateful for what you do and Appreciate the updates. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
It’s all positive man I’m done bickering here everyone is entitled to their opinion it’s good to debate but not cool to take it to a personal level, stay safe I’m hoping we get back to some form of normalcy..
I think you are still just feeling that 4/20 vibe lol
lol thanks for the laugh you might be correct though , man I was feeling no pain last night 🙂
Some positive news: LabCorp granted emergency use authorization for at-home tests. Will initially be made available to healthcare workers and first responders and "in the coming weeks" to consumers.
@brianlux, I regret to inform you that it is a nasal swab.
Some positive news: LabCorp granted emergency use authorization for at-home tests. Will initially be made available to healthcare workers and first responders and "in the coming weeks" to consumers.
@brianlux, I regret to inform you that it is a nasal swab.
Interesting. I would like to see their validity data. It's not easy to do a nasopharyngeal swab on yourself. Done correctly, it's a painful procedure, and done incorrectly you won't get a useful sample. I would be concerned about a high rate of false negatives with this.
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Why mock? If you disagree then say something intelligent. It doesn’t upset you that some governments have singled out churches and said a half dozen people can’t park in an empty parking lot? I would think even non religious people would be upset over that.
That second hump is exactly aligned with the flu season, so I’m not convinced the interventions had much to do with it or not.
And I believe most protesters just want common sense measure. Not just blindly and willy nilly deciding what people can and can’t do, which several governors seem to have taken as their approach.
Counterpoint: I believe the protesters just want an excuse to shoot somebody. While governors are relying on actual experts scientists and professional opinion.
Yeah, I'll believe these people...
...over these any day:
So it was the doctors who said go line up to buy a lottery ticket, but it’s illegal to listen to a church service in your car?
The problem is those doctors in that picture aren’t making the decions, and many of the decisions ate not based off any medical or professional advice. Some states have restricted lake access to lakeside homes while others allow it as long as its a powerless boat. That to me makes no sense. Michigan has essentially banned all gardening sales and forced stores to block off gardening isles while much of the store still sells non essential items. 90% of Costco isn’t essential, why target gardening and not liquor and lottery sales? And that’s the problem, doctors have made none of those decisions. It’s governors or other local officials and much of it makes no sense as to what you can and can’t do or buy. Some governors have gone way overboard.
Minnesota told people not to visit their summer cabins for a few reasons:
travel spreads CV19
people who own cabin homes are disproportionately older demographic
rural areas are less likely to follow social distancing guidelines because apparently CV19 is 'an urban problem'
rural hospitals have less resources and will be easily overwhelmed
The MN gov actually explained it pretty clearly, wrapping up with, 'more people will die'
Liquor & lottery is essential because can you imagine what will happen to community health if all the gambling addicts and alcoholics can't suddenly get booze or scratchers? (hint: it's not good)
Gardening hasn't been targeted. People can still shop online for pickup or delivery. These are bored old folks who just want to spend hours wandering their local Home Depot (infecting other old folks).
Powerless boats were omitted because kayaks, canoes and sailboats hold less people. Would you rather all boats were restricted?
These things all make sense if you just take a moment to think logically. Or if you listened to the explanations that have clearly been given over and over and over again.
I’m not buying any of that (except maybe the wondering Home Depot, but then ban all non essential sales). But then be uniform with that decision, make Costco bam all non essential sales too, and not just Home Depot and gardening. It’s like trying to solve the gun problem by banning all Colts and doing nothing else. Makes no sense.
My parents have a second home and it’s just like you described. They are staying there most of the time because it is rural. When they need supplies the local grocery store is stocked, hasn’t run out of toilet paper, no line to get in, etc. their primary home is just outside Sacramento, much higher rate for cases, stores are crowded. Makes so much more sense for them to stay at their second home. They drive to the primary home about once every 2 weeks, drive straight there, bring groceries with them and don’t leave once they get there. But they go to mow the lawn, check on things, etc. I see zero reason to not allow that.
Not all boats are massive power boats. Plenty of motor boats are small 2 or 4 person fishing boats. Plenty of sail boats can hold 10+ people. Instead of banning motor boats if that is the reason then wouldn’t it make more sense to limit boat capacity to 2 people? That’s what I mean by the regulations not making sense. If you’re worried about number of people then limit the number of people, not type of boat.
So people with addictions to scratchers get a free pass during this time and everyone else is told to stay home? Not buying that one.
I don’t have a problem with liquor stores being open and selling lottery tickets. I do have a problem with the government that allows that also stepping and stopping a church service that several members are listening to via the radio from their car in the parking lot, Parked many feet apart and windows rolled up.
I have a problem with a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park, but because you have an addiction to scratchers you can go ahead and line up in a liquor store. Well I have an addiction to quality time with my kids.
You're talking about anecdotal evidence, when the law of large numbers applies.
The CV19 virus doesn't care if you 'aren't buying it'.
Or more accurately, don't understand: It's risk mitigation. Not risk elimination.
So I see instead of trying to explain why if you’re worried about sheer numbers of people on a boat it doesn’t make sense to limit boat capacity and instead just ban certain types of boats that may or may not have a large capacity while allowing other boats that also may or may not have a large capacity and instead just say I don’t understand.
Or don’t bother to explain why it is bad to allow people to practice their religion from their car during the 2 most important weeks in Christianity and instead say but people will be pissed if you don’t let them line up to buy their weekly lottery and see how they act. Yeah? Are they going to be more pissed than the people already protesting?
I just don’t understand how viruses work. Gotchya..
My dumb ass just thinks it’s more effective to say no more than 2 people on a boat rather than banning some boats and not others and cross my fingers only small groups happen to be allowed.
But anecdotal and I don’t understand.
The Department of Natural Resources has gotten many reports about the heavy use of boat launches across the state, and the congregation of people at the launches.
"In addition, people who use motorized watercraft typically have to procure secondary services for their craft, such as parts and gasoline, that could unnecessarily increase contact with others and spread disease," the DNR said. "The hope is that the prohibition on the use of motorized watercraft will reduce the movement of people within the state and potential contact among people, with the intent of slowing the spread of the coronavirus."
Get it yet?
I think we’ll just have to disagree. I still think there’s a much more effective way. Powerless boats can still use boat launches.
Close boat launches, limit boat capacity, make boat repair shops non essential and that is going to be more effective. People with private lake access or a dock can still enjoy the outdoors which is good for everyone.
My point that got lost in this debate is some governors have pushed their restrictions too far. And boats are just one of dozens of examples if you don’t agree with me about the boat. I don’t think protesting is the right thing to do right now but I can understand why people are upset.
Maybe pictures will help:
I, nor anyone else on here that I saw, ever suggested business as usual. So no, this picture does not help. There is a lot of area between arresting a dad for playing catch and business as usual.
That second hump is exactly aligned with the flu season, so I’m not convinced the interventions had much to do with it or not.
And I believe most protesters just want common sense measure. Not just blindly and willy nilly deciding what people can and can’t do, which several governors seem to have taken as their approach.
Counterpoint: I believe the protesters just want an excuse to shoot somebody. While governors are relying on actual experts scientists and professional opinion.
Yeah, I'll believe these people...
...over these any day:
So it was the doctors who said go line up to buy a lottery ticket, but it’s illegal to listen to a church service in your car?
The problem is those doctors in that picture aren’t making the decions, and many of the decisions ate not based off any medical or professional advice. Some states have restricted lake access to lakeside homes while others allow it as long as its a powerless boat. That to me makes no sense. Michigan has essentially banned all gardening sales and forced stores to block off gardening isles while much of the store still sells non essential items. 90% of Costco isn’t essential, why target gardening and not liquor and lottery sales? And that’s the problem, doctors have made none of those decisions. It’s governors or other local officials and much of it makes no sense as to what you can and can’t do or buy. Some governors have gone way overboard.
Minnesota told people not to visit their summer cabins for a few reasons:
travel spreads CV19
people who own cabin homes are disproportionately older demographic
rural areas are less likely to follow social distancing guidelines because apparently CV19 is 'an urban problem'
rural hospitals have less resources and will be easily overwhelmed
The MN gov actually explained it pretty clearly, wrapping up with, 'more people will die'
Liquor & lottery is essential because can you imagine what will happen to community health if all the gambling addicts and alcoholics can't suddenly get booze or scratchers? (hint: it's not good)
Gardening hasn't been targeted. People can still shop online for pickup or delivery. These are bored old folks who just want to spend hours wandering their local Home Depot (infecting other old folks).
Powerless boats were omitted because kayaks, canoes and sailboats hold less people. Would you rather all boats were restricted?
These things all make sense if you just take a moment to think logically. Or if you listened to the explanations that have clearly been given over and over and over again.
I’m not buying any of that (except maybe the wondering Home Depot, but then ban all non essential sales). But then be uniform with that decision, make Costco bam all non essential sales too, and not just Home Depot and gardening. It’s like trying to solve the gun problem by banning all Colts and doing nothing else. Makes no sense.
My parents have a second home and it’s just like you described. They are staying there most of the time because it is rural. When they need supplies the local grocery store is stocked, hasn’t run out of toilet paper, no line to get in, etc. their primary home is just outside Sacramento, much higher rate for cases, stores are crowded. Makes so much more sense for them to stay at their second home. They drive to the primary home about once every 2 weeks, drive straight there, bring groceries with them and don’t leave once they get there. But they go to mow the lawn, check on things, etc. I see zero reason to not allow that.
Not all boats are massive power boats. Plenty of motor boats are small 2 or 4 person fishing boats. Plenty of sail boats can hold 10+ people. Instead of banning motor boats if that is the reason then wouldn’t it make more sense to limit boat capacity to 2 people? That’s what I mean by the regulations not making sense. If you’re worried about number of people then limit the number of people, not type of boat.
So people with addictions to scratchers get a free pass during this time and everyone else is told to stay home? Not buying that one.
I don’t have a problem with liquor stores being open and selling lottery tickets. I do have a problem with the government that allows that also stepping and stopping a church service that several members are listening to via the radio from their car in the parking lot, Parked many feet apart and windows rolled up.
I have a problem with a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park, but because you have an addiction to scratchers you can go ahead and line up in a liquor store. Well I have an addiction to quality time with my kids.
You're talking about anecdotal evidence, when the law of large numbers applies.
The CV19 virus doesn't care if you 'aren't buying it'.
Or more accurately, don't understand: It's risk mitigation. Not risk elimination.
So I see instead of trying to explain why if you’re worried about sheer numbers of people on a boat it doesn’t make sense to limit boat capacity and instead just ban certain types of boats that may or may not have a large capacity while allowing other boats that also may or may not have a large capacity and instead just say I don’t understand.
Or don’t bother to explain why it is bad to allow people to practice their religion from their car during the 2 most important weeks in Christianity and instead say but people will be pissed if you don’t let them line up to buy their weekly lottery and see how they act. Yeah? Are they going to be more pissed than the people already protesting?
I just don’t understand how viruses work. Gotchya..
My dumb ass just thinks it’s more effective to say no more than 2 people on a boat rather than banning some boats and not others and cross my fingers only small groups happen to be allowed.
But anecdotal and I don’t understand.
The Department of Natural Resources has gotten many reports about the heavy use of boat launches across the state, and the congregation of people at the launches.
"In addition, people who use motorized watercraft typically have to procure secondary services for their craft, such as parts and gasoline, that could unnecessarily increase contact with others and spread disease," the DNR said. "The hope is that the prohibition on the use of motorized watercraft will reduce the movement of people within the state and potential contact among people, with the intent of slowing the spread of the coronavirus."
Get it yet?
I think we’ll just have to disagree. I still think there’s a much more effective way. Powerless boats can still use boat launches.
Close boat launches, limit boat capacity, make boat repair shops non essential and that is going to be more effective. People with private lake access or a dock can still enjoy the outdoors which is good for everyone.
My point that got lost in this debate is some governors have pushed their restrictions too far. And boats are just one of dozens of examples if you don’t agree with me about the boat. I don’t think protesting is the right thing to do right now but I can understand why people are upset.
Maybe pictures will help:
I, nor anyone else on here that I saw, ever suggested business as usual. So no, this picture does not help. There is a lot of area between arresting a dad for playing catch and business as usual.
I thought the majority of protests wanted everything opened back up again. Thats what the signs are saying that I am reading at least.
That second hump is exactly aligned with the flu season, so I’m not convinced the interventions had much to do with it or not.
And I believe most protesters just want common sense measure. Not just blindly and willy nilly deciding what people can and can’t do, which several governors seem to have taken as their approach.
Counterpoint: I believe the protesters just want an excuse to shoot somebody. While governors are relying on actual experts scientists and professional opinion.
Yeah, I'll believe these people...
...over these any day:
So it was the doctors who said go line up to buy a lottery ticket, but it’s illegal to listen to a church service in your car?
The problem is those doctors in that picture aren’t making the decions, and many of the decisions ate not based off any medical or professional advice. Some states have restricted lake access to lakeside homes while others allow it as long as its a powerless boat. That to me makes no sense. Michigan has essentially banned all gardening sales and forced stores to block off gardening isles while much of the store still sells non essential items. 90% of Costco isn’t essential, why target gardening and not liquor and lottery sales? And that’s the problem, doctors have made none of those decisions. It’s governors or other local officials and much of it makes no sense as to what you can and can’t do or buy. Some governors have gone way overboard.
Minnesota told people not to visit their summer cabins for a few reasons:
travel spreads CV19
people who own cabin homes are disproportionately older demographic
rural areas are less likely to follow social distancing guidelines because apparently CV19 is 'an urban problem'
rural hospitals have less resources and will be easily overwhelmed
The MN gov actually explained it pretty clearly, wrapping up with, 'more people will die'
Liquor & lottery is essential because can you imagine what will happen to community health if all the gambling addicts and alcoholics can't suddenly get booze or scratchers? (hint: it's not good)
Gardening hasn't been targeted. People can still shop online for pickup or delivery. These are bored old folks who just want to spend hours wandering their local Home Depot (infecting other old folks).
Powerless boats were omitted because kayaks, canoes and sailboats hold less people. Would you rather all boats were restricted?
These things all make sense if you just take a moment to think logically. Or if you listened to the explanations that have clearly been given over and over and over again.
I’m not buying any of that (except maybe the wondering Home Depot, but then ban all non essential sales). But then be uniform with that decision, make Costco bam all non essential sales too, and not just Home Depot and gardening. It’s like trying to solve the gun problem by banning all Colts and doing nothing else. Makes no sense.
My parents have a second home and it’s just like you described. They are staying there most of the time because it is rural. When they need supplies the local grocery store is stocked, hasn’t run out of toilet paper, no line to get in, etc. their primary home is just outside Sacramento, much higher rate for cases, stores are crowded. Makes so much more sense for them to stay at their second home. They drive to the primary home about once every 2 weeks, drive straight there, bring groceries with them and don’t leave once they get there. But they go to mow the lawn, check on things, etc. I see zero reason to not allow that.
Not all boats are massive power boats. Plenty of motor boats are small 2 or 4 person fishing boats. Plenty of sail boats can hold 10+ people. Instead of banning motor boats if that is the reason then wouldn’t it make more sense to limit boat capacity to 2 people? That’s what I mean by the regulations not making sense. If you’re worried about number of people then limit the number of people, not type of boat.
So people with addictions to scratchers get a free pass during this time and everyone else is told to stay home? Not buying that one.
I don’t have a problem with liquor stores being open and selling lottery tickets. I do have a problem with the government that allows that also stepping and stopping a church service that several members are listening to via the radio from their car in the parking lot, Parked many feet apart and windows rolled up.
I have a problem with a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park, but because you have an addiction to scratchers you can go ahead and line up in a liquor store. Well I have an addiction to quality time with my kids.
You're talking about anecdotal evidence, when the law of large numbers applies.
The CV19 virus doesn't care if you 'aren't buying it'.
Or more accurately, don't understand: It's risk mitigation. Not risk elimination.
So I see instead of trying to explain why if you’re worried about sheer numbers of people on a boat it doesn’t make sense to limit boat capacity and instead just ban certain types of boats that may or may not have a large capacity while allowing other boats that also may or may not have a large capacity and instead just say I don’t understand.
Or don’t bother to explain why it is bad to allow people to practice their religion from their car during the 2 most important weeks in Christianity and instead say but people will be pissed if you don’t let them line up to buy their weekly lottery and see how they act. Yeah? Are they going to be more pissed than the people already protesting?
I just don’t understand how viruses work. Gotchya..
My dumb ass just thinks it’s more effective to say no more than 2 people on a boat rather than banning some boats and not others and cross my fingers only small groups happen to be allowed.
But anecdotal and I don’t understand.
The Department of Natural Resources has gotten many reports about the heavy use of boat launches across the state, and the congregation of people at the launches.
"In addition, people who use motorized watercraft typically have to procure secondary services for their craft, such as parts and gasoline, that could unnecessarily increase contact with others and spread disease," the DNR said. "The hope is that the prohibition on the use of motorized watercraft will reduce the movement of people within the state and potential contact among people, with the intent of slowing the spread of the coronavirus."
Get it yet?
I think we’ll just have to disagree. I still think there’s a much more effective way. Powerless boats can still use boat launches.
Close boat launches, limit boat capacity, make boat repair shops non essential and that is going to be more effective. People with private lake access or a dock can still enjoy the outdoors which is good for everyone.
My point that got lost in this debate is some governors have pushed their restrictions too far. And boats are just one of dozens of examples if you don’t agree with me about the boat. I don’t think protesting is the right thing to do right now but I can understand why people are upset.
Maybe pictures will help:
I, nor anyone else on here that I saw, ever suggested business as usual. So no, this picture does not help. There is a lot of area between arresting a dad for playing catch and business as usual.
I thought the majority of protests wanted everything opened back up again. Thats what the signs are saying that I am reading at least.
I’m not sure if they just want less restrictions or 100% back to normal. My guess is probably a mix of both.
But I was referring to what I said and have seen on here, since that post was in response to me saying I agree the protest aren’t the right thing to do but that some governors have overstepped.
I just get fired up when I see half the people use the same playbook to respond. Which is to spin a wheel that gives you one of several choices. Call you a Trump lover even though the topic has nothing to with trump. Call you racist. Make fun of your religion. Tell you to stop watching faux news. Even though no one brought up race, religion or Fox News. Or repeat what you said but add stuttering and some baby noises. But Whatever the wheel lands on you must at all costs not provide an actual response. Quite a few subscribe to this playlist of responses. I’m not sure if it’s an actual physical wheel or an app that does it for you.
That second hump is exactly aligned with the flu season, so I’m not convinced the interventions had much to do with it or not.
And I believe most protesters just want common sense measure. Not just blindly and willy nilly deciding what people can and can’t do, which several governors seem to have taken as their approach.
Counterpoint: I believe the protesters just want an excuse to shoot somebody. While governors are relying on actual experts scientists and professional opinion.
Yeah, I'll believe these people...
...over these any day:
So it was the doctors who said go line up to buy a lottery ticket, but it’s illegal to listen to a church service in your car?
The problem is those doctors in that picture aren’t making the decions, and many of the decisions ate not based off any medical or professional advice. Some states have restricted lake access to lakeside homes while others allow it as long as its a powerless boat. That to me makes no sense. Michigan has essentially banned all gardening sales and forced stores to block off gardening isles while much of the store still sells non essential items. 90% of Costco isn’t essential, why target gardening and not liquor and lottery sales? And that’s the problem, doctors have made none of those decisions. It’s governors or other local officials and much of it makes no sense as to what you can and can’t do or buy. Some governors have gone way overboard.
Minnesota told people not to visit their summer cabins for a few reasons:
travel spreads CV19
people who own cabin homes are disproportionately older demographic
rural areas are less likely to follow social distancing guidelines because apparently CV19 is 'an urban problem'
rural hospitals have less resources and will be easily overwhelmed
The MN gov actually explained it pretty clearly, wrapping up with, 'more people will die'
Liquor & lottery is essential because can you imagine what will happen to community health if all the gambling addicts and alcoholics can't suddenly get booze or scratchers? (hint: it's not good)
Gardening hasn't been targeted. People can still shop online for pickup or delivery. These are bored old folks who just want to spend hours wandering their local Home Depot (infecting other old folks).
Powerless boats were omitted because kayaks, canoes and sailboats hold less people. Would you rather all boats were restricted?
These things all make sense if you just take a moment to think logically. Or if you listened to the explanations that have clearly been given over and over and over again.
I’m not buying any of that (except maybe the wondering Home Depot, but then ban all non essential sales). But then be uniform with that decision, make Costco bam all non essential sales too, and not just Home Depot and gardening. It’s like trying to solve the gun problem by banning all Colts and doing nothing else. Makes no sense.
My parents have a second home and it’s just like you described. They are staying there most of the time because it is rural. When they need supplies the local grocery store is stocked, hasn’t run out of toilet paper, no line to get in, etc. their primary home is just outside Sacramento, much higher rate for cases, stores are crowded. Makes so much more sense for them to stay at their second home. They drive to the primary home about once every 2 weeks, drive straight there, bring groceries with them and don’t leave once they get there. But they go to mow the lawn, check on things, etc. I see zero reason to not allow that.
Not all boats are massive power boats. Plenty of motor boats are small 2 or 4 person fishing boats. Plenty of sail boats can hold 10+ people. Instead of banning motor boats if that is the reason then wouldn’t it make more sense to limit boat capacity to 2 people? That’s what I mean by the regulations not making sense. If you’re worried about number of people then limit the number of people, not type of boat.
So people with addictions to scratchers get a free pass during this time and everyone else is told to stay home? Not buying that one.
I don’t have a problem with liquor stores being open and selling lottery tickets. I do have a problem with the government that allows that also stepping and stopping a church service that several members are listening to via the radio from their car in the parking lot, Parked many feet apart and windows rolled up.
I have a problem with a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park, but because you have an addiction to scratchers you can go ahead and line up in a liquor store. Well I have an addiction to quality time with my kids.
You're talking about anecdotal evidence, when the law of large numbers applies.
The CV19 virus doesn't care if you 'aren't buying it'.
Or more accurately, don't understand: It's risk mitigation. Not risk elimination.
So I see instead of trying to explain why if you’re worried about sheer numbers of people on a boat it doesn’t make sense to limit boat capacity and instead just ban certain types of boats that may or may not have a large capacity while allowing other boats that also may or may not have a large capacity and instead just say I don’t understand.
Or don’t bother to explain why it is bad to allow people to practice their religion from their car during the 2 most important weeks in Christianity and instead say but people will be pissed if you don’t let them line up to buy their weekly lottery and see how they act. Yeah? Are they going to be more pissed than the people already protesting?
I just don’t understand how viruses work. Gotchya..
My dumb ass just thinks it’s more effective to say no more than 2 people on a boat rather than banning some boats and not others and cross my fingers only small groups happen to be allowed.
But anecdotal and I don’t understand.
The Department of Natural Resources has gotten many reports about the heavy use of boat launches across the state, and the congregation of people at the launches.
"In addition, people who use motorized watercraft typically have to procure secondary services for their craft, such as parts and gasoline, that could unnecessarily increase contact with others and spread disease," the DNR said. "The hope is that the prohibition on the use of motorized watercraft will reduce the movement of people within the state and potential contact among people, with the intent of slowing the spread of the coronavirus."
Get it yet?
I think we’ll just have to disagree. I still think there’s a much more effective way. Powerless boats can still use boat launches.
Close boat launches, limit boat capacity, make boat repair shops non essential and that is going to be more effective. People with private lake access or a dock can still enjoy the outdoors which is good for everyone.
My point that got lost in this debate is some governors have pushed their restrictions too far. And boats are just one of dozens of examples if you don’t agree with me about the boat. I don’t think protesting is the right thing to do right now but I can understand why people are upset.
Maybe pictures will help:
I, nor anyone else on here that I saw, ever suggested business as usual. So no, this picture does not help. There is a lot of area between arresting a dad for playing catch and business as usual.
I thought the majority of protests wanted everything opened back up again. Thats what the signs are saying that I am reading at least.
I’m not sure if they just want less restrictions or 100% back to normal. My guess is probably a mix of both.
But I was referring to what I said and have seen on here, since that post was in response to me saying I agree the protest aren’t the right thing to do but that some governors have overstepped.
I just get fired up when I see half the people use the same playbook to respond. Which is to spin a wheel that gives you one of several choices. Call you a Trump lover even though the topic has nothing to with trump. Call you racist. Make fun of your religion. Tell you to stop watching faux news. Even though no one brought up race, religion or Fox News. Or repeat what you said but add stuttering and some baby noises. But Whatever the wheel lands on you must at all costs not provide an actual response. Quite a few subscribe to this playlist of responses. I’m not sure if it’s an actual physical wheel or an app that does it for you.
I hear you. Sometimes people are arguing just to argue, and they are easy to spot. Once you do, they are easy to ignore. The point of this place is to discuss, not to battle.
That second hump is exactly aligned with the flu season, so I’m not convinced the interventions had much to do with it or not.
And I believe most protesters just want common sense measure. Not just blindly and willy nilly deciding what people can and can’t do, which several governors seem to have taken as their approach.
Counterpoint: I believe the protesters just want an excuse to shoot somebody. While governors are relying on actual experts scientists and professional opinion.
Yeah, I'll believe these people...
...over these any day:
So it was the doctors who said go line up to buy a lottery ticket, but it’s illegal to listen to a church service in your car?
The problem is those doctors in that picture aren’t making the decions, and many of the decisions ate not based off any medical or professional advice. Some states have restricted lake access to lakeside homes while others allow it as long as its a powerless boat. That to me makes no sense. Michigan has essentially banned all gardening sales and forced stores to block off gardening isles while much of the store still sells non essential items. 90% of Costco isn’t essential, why target gardening and not liquor and lottery sales? And that’s the problem, doctors have made none of those decisions. It’s governors or other local officials and much of it makes no sense as to what you can and can’t do or buy. Some governors have gone way overboard.
Minnesota told people not to visit their summer cabins for a few reasons:
travel spreads CV19
people who own cabin homes are disproportionately older demographic
rural areas are less likely to follow social distancing guidelines because apparently CV19 is 'an urban problem'
rural hospitals have less resources and will be easily overwhelmed
The MN gov actually explained it pretty clearly, wrapping up with, 'more people will die'
Liquor & lottery is essential because can you imagine what will happen to community health if all the gambling addicts and alcoholics can't suddenly get booze or scratchers? (hint: it's not good)
Gardening hasn't been targeted. People can still shop online for pickup or delivery. These are bored old folks who just want to spend hours wandering their local Home Depot (infecting other old folks).
Powerless boats were omitted because kayaks, canoes and sailboats hold less people. Would you rather all boats were restricted?
These things all make sense if you just take a moment to think logically. Or if you listened to the explanations that have clearly been given over and over and over again.
I’m not buying any of that (except maybe the wondering Home Depot, but then ban all non essential sales). But then be uniform with that decision, make Costco bam all non essential sales too, and not just Home Depot and gardening. It’s like trying to solve the gun problem by banning all Colts and doing nothing else. Makes no sense.
My parents have a second home and it’s just like you described. They are staying there most of the time because it is rural. When they need supplies the local grocery store is stocked, hasn’t run out of toilet paper, no line to get in, etc. their primary home is just outside Sacramento, much higher rate for cases, stores are crowded. Makes so much more sense for them to stay at their second home. They drive to the primary home about once every 2 weeks, drive straight there, bring groceries with them and don’t leave once they get there. But they go to mow the lawn, check on things, etc. I see zero reason to not allow that.
Not all boats are massive power boats. Plenty of motor boats are small 2 or 4 person fishing boats. Plenty of sail boats can hold 10+ people. Instead of banning motor boats if that is the reason then wouldn’t it make more sense to limit boat capacity to 2 people? That’s what I mean by the regulations not making sense. If you’re worried about number of people then limit the number of people, not type of boat.
So people with addictions to scratchers get a free pass during this time and everyone else is told to stay home? Not buying that one.
I don’t have a problem with liquor stores being open and selling lottery tickets. I do have a problem with the government that allows that also stepping and stopping a church service that several members are listening to via the radio from their car in the parking lot, Parked many feet apart and windows rolled up.
I have a problem with a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park, but because you have an addiction to scratchers you can go ahead and line up in a liquor store. Well I have an addiction to quality time with my kids.
You're talking about anecdotal evidence, when the law of large numbers applies.
The CV19 virus doesn't care if you 'aren't buying it'.
Or more accurately, don't understand: It's risk mitigation. Not risk elimination.
So I see instead of trying to explain why if you’re worried about sheer numbers of people on a boat it doesn’t make sense to limit boat capacity and instead just ban certain types of boats that may or may not have a large capacity while allowing other boats that also may or may not have a large capacity and instead just say I don’t understand.
Or don’t bother to explain why it is bad to allow people to practice their religion from their car during the 2 most important weeks in Christianity and instead say but people will be pissed if you don’t let them line up to buy their weekly lottery and see how they act. Yeah? Are they going to be more pissed than the people already protesting?
I just don’t understand how viruses work. Gotchya..
My dumb ass just thinks it’s more effective to say no more than 2 people on a boat rather than banning some boats and not others and cross my fingers only small groups happen to be allowed.
But anecdotal and I don’t understand.
The Department of Natural Resources has gotten many reports about the heavy use of boat launches across the state, and the congregation of people at the launches.
"In addition, people who use motorized watercraft typically have to procure secondary services for their craft, such as parts and gasoline, that could unnecessarily increase contact with others and spread disease," the DNR said. "The hope is that the prohibition on the use of motorized watercraft will reduce the movement of people within the state and potential contact among people, with the intent of slowing the spread of the coronavirus."
Get it yet?
I think we’ll just have to disagree. I still think there’s a much more effective way. Powerless boats can still use boat launches.
Close boat launches, limit boat capacity, make boat repair shops non essential and that is going to be more effective. People with private lake access or a dock can still enjoy the outdoors which is good for everyone.
My point that got lost in this debate is some governors have pushed their restrictions too far. And boats are just one of dozens of examples if you don’t agree with me about the boat. I don’t think protesting is the right thing to do right now but I can understand why people are upset.
Maybe pictures will help:
I, nor anyone else on here that I saw, ever suggested business as usual. So no, this picture does not help. There is a lot of area between arresting a dad for playing catch and business as usual.
I thought the majority of protests wanted everything opened back up again. Thats what the signs are saying that I am reading at least.
I doubt it's a coordinated message. You probably have a mix of (imo) reasonable people upset about the crazier restrictions up to (imo) unreasonable people who think we'd be fine filling the Rose Bowl tomorrow and like shouting in the street.
Some positive news: LabCorp granted emergency use authorization for at-home tests. Will initially be made available to healthcare workers and first responders and "in the coming weeks" to consumers.
@brianlux, I regret to inform you that it is a nasal swab.
Interesting. I would like to see their validity data. It's not easy to do a nasopharyngeal swab on yourself. Done correctly, it's a painful procedure, and done incorrectly you won't get a useful sample. I would be concerned about a high rate of false negatives with this.
I wondered about that, too. But LabCorp is legit so I imagine/think/hope they know what they're doing.
Some positive news: LabCorp granted emergency use authorization for at-home tests. Will initially be made available to healthcare workers and first responders and "in the coming weeks" to consumers.
@brianlux, I regret to inform you that it is a nasal swab.
Interesting. I would like to see their validity data. It's not easy to do a nasopharyngeal swab on yourself. Done correctly, it's a painful procedure, and done incorrectly you won't get a useful sample. I would be concerned about a high rate of false negatives with this.
I wondered about that, too. But LabCorp is legit so I imagine/think/hope they know what they're doing.
I want to see their data. I’m not sure I’ll have time today to look for it but I’ll try.
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Some positive news: LabCorp granted emergency use authorization for at-home tests. Will initially be made available to healthcare workers and first responders and "in the coming weeks" to consumers.
@brianlux, I regret to inform you that it is a nasal swab.
The problem I have is with misinformation and misrepresented facts used to back an argument. The praying in their car while listening to a sermon on the radio claim appears to be the work of a boneheaded mayor’s misguided enforcement of a state policy guidance or directive. One in which the fine was rescinded. But keep beating that drum.
As for the “arrest” of the dad playing ball with his kid, from what I can tell, he was detained in the back of a police car and eventually sent on his way. “Arrest,” conjures up images of being finger printed, photographed, charged, held in the pokey unless bailed out or a court appearance is made. It also might have resulted in child protective services taking custody of the kid unless other arrangements had been made. But none of that happened. He was detained and the police department eventually issued an apology. If I have that wrong, please link me to a reputable news source that describes the “arrest,” in detail.
As for the gardening supplies, the governor issued a clarifying statement of which it was clearly stated that she didn’t ban the sale of gardening supplies so maybe the anger and criticism should be directed at Costco or Home Depot or whichever store is blocking their gardening supply aisle?
Some positive news: LabCorp granted emergency use authorization for at-home tests. Will initially be made available to healthcare workers and first responders and "in the coming weeks" to consumers.
@brianlux, I regret to inform you that it is a nasal swab.
Interesting. I would like to see their validity data. It's not easy to do a nasopharyngeal swab on yourself. Done correctly, it's a painful procedure, and done incorrectly you won't get a useful sample. I would be concerned about a high rate of false negatives with this.
I wondered about that, too. But LabCorp is legit so I imagine/think/hope they know what they're doing.
I want to see their data. I’m not sure I’ll have time today to look for it but I’ll try.
The directions, too. Hopefully it's not just a gif of The Joker's pencil trick.
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even if I look and act really crazy.
Maybe pictures will help:
And that the peak of infection was on April 15.
Look - breaches could be open with social distancing...then you get parties of beach goers all getting the virus. People are dumb, not the bannings.
A question about having having sex during corona right now at the Swedish press briefing.
Has Trump been asked about that yet?
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@brianlux, I regret to inform you that it is a nasal swab.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200421005452/en/LabCorp-COVID-19-At-Home-Test-Kit-Receives-FDA
There is a lot of area between arresting a dad for playing catch and business as usual.
But I was referring to what I said and have seen on here, since that post was in response to me saying I agree the protest aren’t the right thing to do but that some governors have overstepped.
I just get fired up when I see half the people use the same playbook to respond. Which is to spin a wheel that gives you one of several choices. Call you a Trump lover even though the topic has nothing to with trump. Call you racist. Make fun of your religion. Tell you to stop watching faux news. Even though no one brought up race, religion or Fox News. Or repeat what you said but add stuttering and some baby noises. But Whatever the wheel lands on you must at all costs not provide an actual response. Quite a few subscribe to this playlist of responses. I’m not sure if it’s an actual physical wheel or an app that does it for you.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
OH my... that would be...
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/religious-liberty-department-of-justice-backs-
churchgoers-fined-for-attending-drive-in-easter-service/
As for the “arrest” of the dad playing ball with his kid, from what I can tell, he was detained in the back of a police car and eventually sent on his way. “Arrest,” conjures up images of being finger printed, photographed, charged, held in the pokey unless bailed out or a court appearance is made. It also might have resulted in child protective services taking custody of the kid unless other arrangements had been made. But none of that happened. He was detained and the police department eventually issued an apology. If I have that wrong, please link me to a reputable news source that describes the “arrest,” in detail.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/man-handcuffed-for-playing-t-ball-with-daughter-in-empty-park/1pngzukppayy411amo4ykm44b7
https://www.newsweek.com/police-apologize-handcuffing-man-daughter-1496835
As for the gardening supplies, the governor issued a clarifying statement of which it was clearly stated that she didn’t ban the sale of gardening supplies so maybe the anger and criticism should be directed at Costco or Home Depot or whichever store is blocking their gardening supply aisle?
By all means, feel free to ignore.
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