The coronavirus
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It's even longer than I had thought.
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Thanks for the link MayDAy.. It's a goodie.I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef
Animals were hiding behind the Coral
Except for little Turtle
I could swear he's trying to talk to me
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Interview with the first case in New Jersey in yesterdays The Daily. Scary:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/podcasts/the-daily/coronavirus-new-jersey.html
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rgambs said:Unless they are children, of course. If they are children then let them snot and spit and cough all over each other. Because...science?
Riiiiigt.
But Johan Giesecke, professor emeritus at the Karolinska Institute, adviser to the WHO and former state epidemiologist is not particularly worried about infection in preschool and school environments.- There are things pointing to children not being very contagious. There are no studies on this, that is hard to do. But WHO had a delegation in China a month ago, where they asked doctors and epidemiologists if they knew of cases where a child had infected an adult, none of them could recall such a case. On a scientific basis, that in itself is quite thin. But there has also been no outbreak in Chinese schools - and if children were heavily infected, they would have seen school outbreaks, says Johan Giesecke to the Teachers' Journal.
Doctors and nurses in several countries have been reported to be seriously ill, something DN, among others, has told us about. One thesis is that those exposed to large viral doses are at higher risk of serious illness. Teachers and preschool teachers also meet many sick children under normal circumstances.- In a normal classroom, with a child who is infected, there is no great danger. What is really dangerous is to intubate people, to stab a tube in the throat of those who need to be cared for in a respirator. A lot of virus particles are produced there. But in a larger room, the particles are diluted and do not go that far. I don't consider that being in close contact or in contact for a long time either. A close contact is to sit next to someone for several hours on an airplane, says Johan Giesecke.
How worried should one be as a teacher in preschool or school?
- No need to worry. Most people who work in preschool and school are young and healthy people. For them it is not a huge risk, it is as good to get infected as you are rid of it (@rgambs). It is a completely different matter for the elderly, where it is important not to spread infection to the homes of the elderly. But spreading infection among children and young healthy adults is no danger, says Johan Giesecke.
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I knew StubHub was a greedy company but is this even legal?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2020/3/28/21198101/stubhub-refunds-canceled-event-ticket-nhl-nba-concerts
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Weston1283 said:I knew StubHub was a greedy company but is this even legal?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2020/3/28/21198101/stubhub-refunds-canceled-event-ticket-nhl-nba-concerts
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mickeyrat said:not a service I will be willing to use going forward....
I wonder if Stubhub will even survive this downturn.
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https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/crowds-ignore-social-distancing-rules-to-watch-usns-comfort/amp/
I give up NYerkrs are a bunch of idiots really pathetic, thank goodness I’m out here in the suburbs...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
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Anybody see the grades based on downturn in movement during the stay at home order? State(IL) received a B and my county received a D. Big cities good grades, rural areas bad grades seems to be the pattern.I’m the only one of my friends with a job deemed non essential and tons of factory, farming and medical workers in my area.0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:rgambs and also @mcgruff10But Johan Giesecke, professor emeritus at the Karolinska Institute, adviser to the WHO and former state epidemiologist is not particularly worried about infection in preschool and school environments.- There are things pointing to children not being very contagious. There are no studies on this, that is hard to do. But WHO had a delegation in China a month ago, where they asked doctors and epidemiologists if they knew of cases where a child had infected an adult, none of them could recall such a case. On a scientific basis, that in itself is quite thin. But there has also been no outbreak in Chinese schools - and if children were heavily infected, they would have seen school outbreaks, says Johan Giesecke to the Teachers' Journal.Doctors and nurses in several countries have been reported to be seriously ill, something DN, among others, has told us about. One thesis is that those exposed to large viral doses are at higher risk of serious illness. Teachers and preschool teachers also meet many sick children under normal circumstances.- In a normal classroom, with a child who is infected, there is no great danger. What is really dangerous is to intubate people, to stab a tube in the throat of those who need to be cared for in a respirator. A lot of virus particles are produced there. But in a larger room, the particles are diluted and do not go that far. I don't consider that being in close contact or in contact for a long time either. A close contact is to sit next to someone for several hours on an airplane, says Johan Giesecke.
How worried should one be as a teacher in preschool or school?
- No need to worry. Most people who work in preschool and school are young and healthy people. For them it is not a huge risk, it is as good to get infected as you are rid of it (@rgambs). It is a completely different matter for the elderly, where it is important not to spread infection to the homes of the elderly. But spreading infection among children and young healthy adults is no danger, says Johan Giesecke.
When this is all over and thousands or tens of thousands of children and young healthy adults are gone from the world, I hope he gets held to task and ostracized from the world's scientific community.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
DewieCox said:Would be nice if they’re gutted but I have to imagine the overhead is crazy low and at best they’ll only take a hit until the industry recovers.
I agree; they can probably let most of their staff go, keep the name, and retool on the other side of this... but I am very curious what the industry will look like when it does recover.Will the pricing drop for concerts and sporting events? There's going to have to be some good incentive to get people to pack arenas & stadiums, at least in the beginning. There won't be a ton of demand there... Tool was struggling to sell a lot of their tickets BEFORE the epidemic took shape (I assume because of the price tag)... I think there'll be a significant market correction for these luxuries, at least in the short term. I could be wrong on this; I am assuming most people feel like me, and can't see themselves going into a crowd like this for some time... I could be off on that assumption.
This is small potatoes, I have much bigger immediate concerns, as do most of us; but part of me is definitely curious to see what happens with the whole sports / concert landscape when we do emerge from this current shit show.
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rgambs said:Yeah, that is a profoundly idiotic statement that will be the discredit of his entire career.
When this is all over and thousands or tens of thousands of children and young healthy adults are gone from the world, I hope he gets held to task and ostracized from the world's scientific community.SC is a believer & will go down with his ship -- in full support of Captain Johan and Captain Bernie.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
I would definitely be glad to see sports take a less prominent role in our society when we recover from this. The sheer amount of money, time, and mental effort spent on sports games needs to be put to better use in a civilized society.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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josevolution said:https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/crowds-ignore-social-distancing-rules-to-watch-usns-comfort/amp/
I give up NYerkrs are a bunch of idiots really pathetic, thank goodness I’m out here in the suburbs...0 -
tempo_n_groove said:It's not as bad a gathering as I would expect but it's bad...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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rgambs said:I would definitely be glad to see sports take a less prominent role in our society when we recover from this. The sheer amount of money, time, and mental effort spent on sports games needs to be put to better use in a civilized society.0
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josevolution said:Screw that I don’t go near groups of 3 or more even in hospital I stay 6 feet from all my coworkers, in our office we have a double door anyone not part of our office stays outside we’re also taking days off so as to not have more than 4 of us in office at once we usihave 8 of us...0
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rgambs said:I would definitely be glad to see sports take a less prominent role in our society when we recover from this. The sheer amount of money, time, and mental effort spent on sports games needs to be put to better use in a civilized society.
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