Who Ever Said

Eilian said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes!  I've been playing for 35 years.  Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified.  Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo. 

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion.  Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album.  You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over.  Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs.  😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

It’s only your opinion that they fell short.  It is my opinion that they knocked it out of the park and this is the best produced album in decades.

What a fatuous thing to say. Of course it's my opinion. I wouldn't be expressing yours, would I?

Chuffed you think otherwise.

You assume they weren’t the best they can be which is really self absorbed, like you are some expert on the subject matter. 

I'm pretty well acquainted with their catalogue, yeah. They can be better.

Well since you’re so acquainted with their catalog, you should know that they’re over 20 years past their peak of creativity and you should lower your expectations. This is a great record for a band 30 years in. No, they can’t be better. 

Talk like this can get you lynched by the Kool-Aid brigade. Careful.

I think there are some real, missed opportunities on this record though. Quick Escape, for instance, would happily sit on a best of if the end solo made sense.

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes!  I've been playing for 35 years.  Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified.  Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo. 

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion.  Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album.  You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over.  Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs.  😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

It’s only your opinion that they fell short.  It is my opinion that they knocked it out of the park and this is the best produced album in decades.

What a fatuous thing to say. Of course it's my opinion. I wouldn't be expressing yours, would I?

Chuffed you think otherwise.

You assume they weren’t the best they can be which is really self absorbed, like you are some expert on the subject matter. 

I'm pretty well acquainted with their catalogue, yeah. They can be better.

Well since you’re so acquainted with their catalog, you should know that they’re over 20 years past their peak of creativity and you should lower your expectations. This is a great record for a band 30 years in. No, they can’t be better. 

Talk like this can get you lynched by the Kool-Aid brigade. Careful.

I think there are some real, missed opportunities on this record though. Quick Escape, for instance, would happily sit on a best of if the end solo made sense.

Can you tell us again how you feel about McCready’s solo at the end of Quick Escape?  I still don’t understand.  Please, I really need your opinion again on this.

Eilian said:

I'm the only one who thinks that kalimba completely ruins it, then?

vedpunk said:

And he’s not a fan of River Cross.  Troll much?

Eilian said:

I'm the only one who thinks that kalimba completely ruins it, then?

mcgruff10 said:

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

And he’s not a fan of River Cross.  Troll much?

Eilian said:

I'm the only one who thinks that kalimba completely ruins it, then?

Aw c'mon.

I'm a troll? I've been pretty balanced.

WhAt is your top three on this album?
Today i m going: comes then goes (fun to play on guitar), never destination  (got that black, red, yellow vibe) and quick escape. 
I cant believe how well I have connected to this album already.  

PJNB said:

Eilian said:

PJNB said:

Eilian said:

PJNB said:

Seems like he is not a fan of live noodling either. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/3290196#Comment_3290196

"He is not a fan"

Just talk to me directly, dude. I'll happily tell you what I think.

Over and over and over again. 

It's a discussion board, and I've been responding to people who have engaged with me, even insulted me.

The sorts of people you were perhaps looking to send my way when you rifled through my post history and "othered" me with your, "He is not..." move.

It's odd that you would not have clued in to the fact that me posting that shows you have a history of not liking the style of guitar playing at the end of Who Ever Said. That actually supports your claim you are not a troll and just are not a fan. Instead you took the paranoid route that I did it to send people after you. You are entitled to your opinion it is just the delivery that needs some work in my opinion. 

Eilian said:

PJNB said:

Eilian said:

PJNB said:

Eilian said:

PJNB said:

Seems like he is not a fan of live noodling either. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/3290196#Comment_3290196

"He is not a fan"

Just talk to me directly, dude. I'll happily tell you what I think.

Over and over and over again. 

It's a discussion board, and I've been responding to people who have engaged with me, even insulted me.

The sorts of people you were perhaps looking to send my way when you rifled through my post history and "othered" me with your, "He is not..." move.

It's odd that you would not have clued in to the fact that me posting that shows you have a history of not liking the style of guitar playing at the end of Who Ever Said. That actually supports your claim you are not a troll and just are not a fan. Instead you took the paranoid route that I did it to send people after you. You are entitled to your opinion it is just the delivery that needs some work in my opinion. 

And I have no idea how my delivery, given how balanced I've been, could be modified to satisfy you.

Whether you intended to rally support against me or not, that's precisely the effect it had - the very next post was from someone else who'd gone rifling through my history to call me a troll.