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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,557

    Man Who 'Probably' Contracted COVID-19 At GHOST Concert Becomes Mexico's First Coronavirus Death



    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/man-who-probably-contracted-covid-19-at-ghost-concert-becomes-mexicos-first-coronavirus-death/?fbclid=IwAR04l_8osg_6FVFZpbHsPdtN4U7uKjTxqSWAw1g7giqzmR3S9WF-dxnT31U

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,557
    edited March 2020
    Don't know how reliable the data is for comparison, with all countries having different rules and possibilities for testing and other variables. But:


    Here’s the coronavirus growth rate through Tuesday. France and Germany remain precisely on the Italian flight path. The US has moved slightly above it, possibly due to more widespread testing. Sweden continues to level out, suggesting that they’re doing something right.
    It’s worth noting some slightly good news here: the Italian trendline is still skyrocketing, but for the past week or so it’s been increasing at a linear rate, not an exponential one. It’s a very high linear rate, but that’s still better than any exponential rate.



    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/03/coronavirus-growth-in-western-countries-march-17-update/?fbclid=IwAR1U7C-cfuuNUc_fAVyQBKClHunQl2Y64HqT8rcDq0GV1LxMQFhXpOmGgOs
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,557
    edited March 2020
    On Friday, Volvo Cars in Sweden chooses to stop production, which is valid from Thursday next week, says Ekot.

    They communicated the message during the morning and it affects around 25,000 people.

    - These are our office workers and employees in factories in Sweden. There are around 25,000 employees in total, says the company's CEO Håkan Samuelsson to Ekot.


    How long can this go on, even for big multinational companies?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Anyone else following Germany's low fatality rate with the virus? Why is it so much more different than the rest of the world? Some thoughts are the younger demographic were the first ones to be hit with the virus and that number is going to spike very soon with the older population being in contact with it now. The other thought is this is actually closer to the true fatality rate to the virus. Germany is testing more people than any other country in the world and more people that have mild symptoms are getting factored into the equation than anywheres else. Hopefully these numbers can stay low than what we are seeing in Italy (older population) and Spain. 



  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,557

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,082
    California issues stay at home order. Still allowed to leave home to get food, medicines, walk dog, exercise, see doctor, etc. Newsome leaving plenty of options for comfort.

    California is projecting TWENTY TWO MILLION WILL BE INFECTED IN JUST THEIR STATE.

    Like Muhammad hits the truth ((Literally just came on random all songs shuffle, not even listening to PJ)

    Anyone have the California fatality projection on that? Hundreds of thousands, just in California 

    and young adults can die a painful death from this. I’ll find that article and link.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,082
    https://www.npr.org/2020/03/20/818764136/california-issues-stay-at-home-order-as-coronavirus-infections-rise?ft=nprml&f=1001

    ^california order and infection projection


    ....
    Comfort?


    “COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, has been much deadlier in older people, but more anecdotes are popping up of young, healthy people getting critically ill. Among the first reported cases in the US, around 40 percent of the patients that required hospitalization were between the ages of 20 and 54, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).”



  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,867
    Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

    Shit is awful for so many.

    Who follows CA, today?

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,082
    edited March 2020
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

    Shit is awful for so many.

    Who follows CA, today?


    In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

    Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

     Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

    Make more sense now?


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,867
    No.
    It makes sense that we are all concerned and worried.  
    None of us know what is going to happen, especially when we have so called experts predicting extremely different outcomes. 
    I surely don't know what is going to happen next and share in the concern everyone has.


    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Lerxst1992 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

    Shit is awful for so many.

    Who follows CA, today?


    In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

    Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

     Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

    Make more sense now?


    .


    Everyone has varing degrees of stress or difficulty these days.


    You're not alone.


    F Me In The Brain was right, let it go.

  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    edited March 2020
    PJNB said:
    Anyone else following Germany's low fatality rate with the virus? Why is it so much more different than the rest of the world? Some thoughts are the younger demographic were the first ones to be hit with the virus and that number is going to spike very soon with the older population being in contact with it now. The other thought is this is actually closer to the true fatality rate to the virus. Germany is testing more people than any other country in the world and more people that have mild symptoms are getting factored into the equation than anywheres else. Hopefully these numbers can stay low than what we are seeing in Italy (older population) and Spain. 



    We ask ourselves the same question. Our health system is good, but is it really that good? If you care to translate, here are a few explanations: 
    https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/coronavirus-warum-ist-die-todesrate-in-deutschland-niedriger-als-in-anderen-laendern-a-2bb61605-c72d-41b3-8d75-a51c3ee2e5fd

    in short: there are a few factors:
    1. same as South Korea we test a lot so find a lot of mild cases as well
    2. age demographics (Italy has one of the oldest population in Europe)
    3. luck/caution: Look at Seattle where they had an outbreak in an old people’s home
    4. it’s still early so our rate could rise significantly at any time, especially when the system is starting to get overwhelmed 

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    mcgruff10 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    The bat eating theory keeps going around.
    some images are disturbing but I believe this is a very objective 8 minute doc on why these viruses keep starting in China:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54
    OMG that made me so mad. Fuck China!
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Lerxst1992 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

    Shit is awful for so many.

    Who follows CA, today?


    In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

    Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

     Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

    Make more sense now?


    .

    No, still doesn't make sense. 
    It's never a good time to be petty and small, during a crisis is certainly no exception.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,142
    edited March 2020
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    ^fuck the National Review
    what do you disagree with in that article?
    Read the author's own conclusion out loud and tell me this makes sense to you:

    "There should be permanent closure of the wet markets, given the government’s obvious inability or unwillingness to regulate them."
    It definitely makes sense to me.  You disagree with the author's conclusion?
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Our stupid fuck of a PM refuses to shut down schools. Why should teachers and their families have to be put at risk?
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Kat said:
    Kat said:
    The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee warned a small group of well-connected constituents three weeks ago to prepare for dire economic and societal effects of the coronavirus, according to a secret recording obtained by NPR.

    The remarks from U.S. Sen. Richard Burr were more stark than any he had delivered in more public forums.

    On Feb. 27, when the United States had 15 confirmed cases of COVID-19, President Trump was tamping down fears and suggesting that the virus could be seasonal.

    "It's going to disappear. One day, it's like a miracle. It will disappear," the president said then, before adding, "it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We'll see what happens."

    On that same day, Burr attended a luncheon held at a social club called the Capitol Hill Club. And he delivered a much more alarming message.

    continued at
    https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/818192535/burr-recording-sparks-questions-about-private-comments-on-covid-19
    People are wondering if this is insider trading and if it's illegal.



    Immoral for sure. Infuriating for sure. And it looks illegal as hell. I wonder how many other Senators were in that briefing. A second senator was found to have done the same thing. Can't remember her name. Also an R.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,557
    edited March 2020
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Our stupid fuck of a PM refuses to shut down schools. Why should teachers and their families have to be put at risk?
    Sweden isn't either (except for 16-19 year old schools and universites)

    I am happy for any politician who do not fall for public pressure or do things because of political reasons.

    ***

    Police are preparing for 50 percent staff absenteeism due to the virus. Now National Commander-in-Chief Per Engström is appealing to politicians not to close primary and pre-primary schools. He tells DN that it would affect many in the community and mentions the entire legal chain with police, prosecutors, judges and lawyers.

    - Who are socially important and not? We depend on each other in a complicated way. Many of these things do not appear until the action has been initiated and it is already too late. Prison services must continue to receive the people we arrest and prosecutors must continue to make decisions, otherwise we may need to release people, he tells the newspaper.

    ***

    infectious disease physicians] Jonas Ahl believes that Sweden has so far made the right corona decision.

    Incredibly worthwhile if half the population becomes immune

    - It is incredibly tough for the Public Health Authority to stand up. The politician-driven decisions that we see in other countries I feel are partly populist and not based on facts. Our Swedish politicians have been brave here and leaned against the expertise, he says.

    - The pressure on them to act is great, but it is probably wise to act more sensibly. In a free society we cannot keep the cases to zero because then we have to weld the doors of people like they did in China and our society does not work. We must focus on protecting the old.

    The infectious doctor believes it is good if Sweden's young population can gain some immunity while the old ones protect themselves. For the virus will remain forever.

    - If schools close now, what happens when they open again? Should we close the community again this fall? It is incredibly worthwhile if half the population is immune to the fall.

    ***



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,391
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Our stupid fuck of a PM refuses to shut down schools. Why should teachers and their families have to be put at risk?
    Maybe they were taking advice from your GP.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Lerxst1992 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

    Shit is awful for so many.

    Who follows CA, today?


    In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

    Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

     Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

    Make more sense now?


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    I get where your coming from, but your anger is misdirected going after an individual poster you know nothing about. You got it completely wrong with your comfort rants.

    So knock it off.
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