The coronavirus

oftenreading

Lerxst1992 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

Shit is awful for so many.

Who follows CA, today?

In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

 Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

Make more sense now?


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Comfort - you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. 

(I don't use that quote to make fun of you - I just like the movie and think it should be referenced where possible).

You are reacting to the word comfort as if by using it I meant "complacency" or "carelessness" or "thoughtlessness". It doesn't mean any of those things. For me, it meant hope. I would like to have hope that my child survives this. The rest of my family, too, but especially my kid. I don't understand what about that hope you find offensive, because I'm guessing you have that hope for your family too. I am certainly not careless or complacent about this. 

Good to hear that everyone in your family is healthy at this point. 

CM189191

F Me In The Brain said:

CM189191 said:

for perspective:

SARS Global deaths: 774; 15 percent mortality rate; no U.S. deaths

H1N1 Global deaths: over 284,000; 12,469 in the United States; death rate was .02 percent

Ebola Global deaths: 11,325 deaths; death rate was about 50 percent

Coronavirus 10,447 global deaths to date, 3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the WHO as of March 3

Not sure what conclusion you are presenting as perspective but I would put forward that any statistics that are more than 2 weeks old dealing with the SARS-CoV-2 is not something we should spend much time thinking about.  Much is learned every day, every week.

Not really pushing any conclusion or narrative.  Just putting numbers out there for perspective. 

If you have updated numbers from WHO, I'd love to see them.

oftenreading

rgambs said:

Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

Lerxst1992 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

Shit is awful for so many.

Who follows CA, today?

In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

 Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

Make more sense now?


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No, still doesn't make sense. 
It's never a good time to be petty and small, during a crisis is certainly no exception.

I shared my experience, and I’m petty and small, for responding to inaccurate and dangerous attacks yesterday while I was sitting in an ICU while under quarantine after waiting what I was told was on a covid 72  hour waiting period for double checking as mandated by the regional experts, luckily they shortened it to 40 hours due to partial test results and reduced symptoms . Dude that comment is offensive. That was ME, Not my neighbors sister FFS.

McG’s NEIGHBOR had an issue... omg you okay friend? Love you man. As long as we love only our friends we’ll be ok, got it.

online forums are insane. Asymptomatic disease is dangerous in an environment of overconfidence. That was my message and I get attacked here. Nice fan club.

Nobody wants to attack you, we are all rooting for you and your family.
YOU are attacking one of our best members in petty and small little jabs and we are trying to show you why you shouldn't be.
I hope all goes well with you and your family and you come to realize that we are all in this together and we are all taking comfort where we can.  I'm taking comfort from the low mortality rate among little children like my 4 year old son, who happens to have COPD.
If someone sees that as offensive to the (relatively) few children who have suffered horribly, that is their choice, but most of us think it is the wrong point of view to hold.

Again, good luck and be well, and let's all move on from this together!

Here's hoping your son stays healthy, rgambs - and the rest of your family. 

F Me In The Brain

CM189191 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

CM189191 said:

for perspective:

SARS Global deaths: 774; 15 percent mortality rate; no U.S. deaths

H1N1 Global deaths: over 284,000; 12,469 in the United States; death rate was .02 percent

Ebola Global deaths: 11,325 deaths; death rate was about 50 percent

Coronavirus 10,447 global deaths to date, 3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the WHO as of March 3

Not sure what conclusion you are presenting as perspective but I would put forward that any statistics that are more than 2 weeks old dealing with the SARS-CoV-2 is not something we should spend much time thinking about.  Much is learned every day, every week.

Not really pushing any conclusion or narrative.  Just putting numbers out there for perspective. 

If you have updated numbers from WHO, I'd love to see them.

Yesterday's update:

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200319-sitrep-59-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=c3dcdef9_2

There is a lot of data there.

One item I did pull for sharing:

The number of confirmed cases worldwide has exceeded 200 000. It took over three months to reach the first 100 00 confirmed cases, and only 12 days to reach the next 100 000.

Spiritual_Chaos

A 90-year-old Seattle woman has recovered after contracting the coronavirus, reports CBS News.

Merkin Baller

Tax deadline in the US has been pushed out from April 15th to July 15th.

mace1229

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

Exactly. Anyone who thinks schools won’t help spread this must have been home schooled.

Literally the day before we closed I saw a girl dump her bag of chips on her desk and eat them straight off the desk, and of course sharing with others.
Even without an outbreak this is disgusting, I bet less than half the students wash their hands after using the bathroom.

stuckinline

Merkin Baller said:

Tax deadline in the US has been pushed out from April 15th to July 15th.

Does this apply to federal income tax only? Or does it include state and city tax deadlines?
Thanks

Merkin Baller

stuckinline said:

Merkin Baller said:

Tax deadline in the US has been pushed out from April 15th to July 15th.

Does this apply to federal income tax only? Or does it include state and city tax deadlines?
Thanks

Based on the last line of this article, it would appear to be just the Fed right now.

"Some states are making changes due to the coronavirus. In California, individuals will have until June 15 to both file and pay their state taxes."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/treasury-secretary-says-tax-filing-deadline-moved-to-july-15/ar-BB11sUeS?ocid=ientp

mcgruff10

mace1229 said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

Exactly. Anyone who thinks schools won’t help spread this must have been home schooled.

Literally the day before we closed I saw a girl dump her bag of chips on her desk and eat them straight off the desk, and of course sharing with others.
Even without an outbreak this is disgusting, I bet less than half the students wash their hands after using the bathroom.

I never teach from my desk, I am always roaming around and interacting with the students.  last week I was like, fuck that!  I taught from my desk and set up a perimeter.  lol

benjs

mcgruff10 said:

mace1229 said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

Exactly. Anyone who thinks schools won’t help spread this must have been home schooled.

Literally the day before we closed I saw a girl dump her bag of chips on her desk and eat them straight off the desk, and of course sharing with others.
Even without an outbreak this is disgusting, I bet less than half the students wash their hands after using the bathroom.

I never teach from my desk, I am always roaming around and interacting with the students.  last week I was like, fuck that!  I taught from my desk and set up a perimeter.  lol

You snowflakes with your safe spaces :P 

Edit: fully joking if unclear

stuckinline

Merkin Baller said:

stuckinline said:

Merkin Baller said:

Tax deadline in the US has been pushed out from April 15th to July 15th.

Does this apply to federal income tax only? Or does it include state and city tax deadlines?
Thanks

Based on the last line of this article, it would appear to be just the Fed right now.

"Some states are making changes due to the coronavirus. In California, individuals will have until June 15 to both file and pay their state taxes."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/treasury-secretary-says-tax-filing-deadline-moved-to-july-15/ar-BB11sUeS?ocid=ientp

Thanks!

Merkin Baller

stuckinline said:

Merkin Baller said:

stuckinline said:

Merkin Baller said:

Tax deadline in the US has been pushed out from April 15th to July 15th.

Does this apply to federal income tax only? Or does it include state and city tax deadlines?
Thanks

Based on the last line of this article, it would appear to be just the Fed right now.

"Some states are making changes due to the coronavirus. In California, individuals will have until June 15 to both file and pay their state taxes."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/treasury-secretary-says-tax-filing-deadline-moved-to-july-15/ar-BB11sUeS?ocid=ientp

Thanks!

Don't take my word for any of this however, definitely do your own research!

mcgruff10

benjs said:

mcgruff10 said:

mace1229 said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

Exactly. Anyone who thinks schools won’t help spread this must have been home schooled.

Literally the day before we closed I saw a girl dump her bag of chips on her desk and eat them straight off the desk, and of course sharing with others.
Even without an outbreak this is disgusting, I bet less than half the students wash their hands after using the bathroom.

I never teach from my desk, I am always roaming around and interacting with the students.  last week I was like, fuck that!  I taught from my desk and set up a perimeter.  lol

You snowflakes with your safe spaces :P 

Edit: fully joking if unclear

I am such a snowflake lol.  

bbiggs

When the U.S. goes on full lock-down (I'm guessing the word "if" no longer applies), we will obviously be able to go to the grocery store for essentials.  I wonder if there will be rations put in place.  I would think certain items that everyone has been hoarding (TP, sanitizer, etc.), but what about food?  Curious what others think.

F Me In The Brain

bbiggs said:

When the U.S. goes on full lock-down (I'm guessing the word "if" no longer applies), we will obviously be able to go to the grocery store for essentials.  I wonder if there will be rations put in place.  I would think certain items that everyone has been hoarding (TP, sanitizer, etc.), but what about food?  Curious what others think.

I think there is a decent chance of this happening before Monday.

However, without the govt taking the stance of calling off all payments/collections for things this very well could be the death knell for small business as we know it.

A buddy who was the COO just facilitated a company-wide layoff, including himself.  The only chance they have to survive and resume services after this all sugars out -- and the only way people can continue to function is if the govt takes some drastic steps.

Buckle up, folks. 

I hope I am wrong.

Lerxst1992

dignin said:

Lerxst1992 said:

dignin said:

Lerxst1992 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

Shit is awful for so many.

Who follows CA, today?

In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

 Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

Make more sense now?


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I get where your coming from, but your anger is misdirected going after an individual poster you know nothing about. You got it completely wrong with your comfort rants.

So knock it off.

you are still personally attacking someone who was at ground zero of this pandemic this week. Message received.

Personally attacking? Not even close.

We all have our own situations to deal with, it doesn't excuse your behavior. 

For typing the word comfort? That's a "rant?" Considering where I've  been and what ive faced this week that could be taken as a personal attack. But I'm chilling. We are all facing stress. Most of us not from an ICU thankfully. 

Misinformation and false sense of security is dangerous with a mostly asymptomatic & highly contagious disease.  Apparently that factual statement needs to still be said. That's a rant?

One of the most dangerous rumors spreading currently is the " my friend is a doctor and he says this is overblown." Comments like those were rampant on this topic 36 hours ago. Am I ranting or stating facts?

The Logans Run scenario, also prevalent on this topic, is also very dangerous.  Evidently the FL Republican governor agrees as he shut down the beaches that the young adults were packing this week. Are those rants or stating facts? 

Lerxst1992

Merkin Baller said:

CM189191 said:

for perspective:

SARS Global deaths: 774; 15 percent mortality rate; no U.S. deaths

H1N1 Global deaths: over 284,000; 12,469 in the United States; death rate was .02 percent

Ebola Global deaths: 11,325 deaths; death rate was about 50 percent

Coronavirus 10,447 global deaths to date, 3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the WHO as of March 3

I don't trust the corona virus mortality rate, because we have no idea how many people have it. I expect the numbers in the US to sky rocket once more testing becomes available.

That could be a double edged sword. The total cases will go up first as testing increases while the mortality rate declines. That could create false optimism as there is usually a 3 week window from positive test result to onset of severe symptoms.

We need to be extremely careful and scientific in how we try to understand this crisis.

Pap

COVID-19: How to respond constructively

bbiggs

F Me In The Brain said:

bbiggs said:

When the U.S. goes on full lock-down (I'm guessing the word "if" no longer applies), we will obviously be able to go to the grocery store for essentials.  I wonder if there will be rations put in place.  I would think certain items that everyone has been hoarding (TP, sanitizer, etc.), but what about food?  Curious what others think.

I think there is a decent chance of this happening before Monday.

However, without the govt taking the stance of calling off all payments/collections for things this very well could be the death knell for small business as we know it.

A buddy who was the COO just facilitated a company-wide layoff, including himself.  The only chance they have to survive and resume services after this all sugars out -- and the only way people can continue to function is if the govt takes some drastic steps.

Buckle up, folks. 

I hope I am wrong.

There has to be a moratorium put in place.  It seems to be the only way to avoid a collapse on some level.