The coronavirus

Merkin Baller

CM189191 said:

for perspective:

SARS Global deaths: 774; 15 percent mortality rate; no U.S. deaths

H1N1 Global deaths: over 284,000; 12,469 in the United States; death rate was .02 percent

Ebola Global deaths: 11,325 deaths; death rate was about 50 percent

Coronavirus 10,447 global deaths to date, 3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the WHO as of March 3

I don't trust the corona virus mortality rate, because we have no idea how many people have it. I expect the numbers in the US to sky rocket once more testing becomes available.

F Me In The Brain

CM189191 said:

for perspective:

SARS Global deaths: 774; 15 percent mortality rate; no U.S. deaths

H1N1 Global deaths: over 284,000; 12,469 in the United States; death rate was .02 percent

Ebola Global deaths: 11,325 deaths; death rate was about 50 percent

Coronavirus 10,447 global deaths to date, 3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the WHO as of March 3

Not sure what conclusion you are presenting as perspective but I would put forward that any statistics that are more than 2 weeks old dealing with the SARS-CoV-2 is not something we should spend much time thinking about.  Much is learned every day, every week.

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Our stupid fuck of a PM refuses to shut down schools. Why should teachers and their families have to be put at risk?

Sweden's Public Health Authority has today decided to still keep schools open, 

because 

- the effects of having them closed have shown to be at most marginal, so far. 

and

- it would be a huge strain on society and the health care system if people are not able to go to work because of children being kept at home

and

- people should avoid after skis this upcoming weekend.

Sweden has 10 million people and 85% of them live in villages with 200 or fewer people.  California is a little smaller and has 4x as many people.
No offense, but there really isn't any sense in comparing Sweden to...anything.

Isn't Thoughts_Arrive from Australia?

Who is talking about California?

So no offense, but there really isn't any sense in you comparing.... anything

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Our stupid fuck of a PM refuses to shut down schools. Why should teachers and their families have to be put at risk?

Sweden's Public Health Authority has today decided to still keep schools open, 

because 

- the effects of having them closed have shown to be at most marginal, so far. 

and

- it would be a huge strain on society and the health care system if people are not able to go to work because of children being kept at home

and

- people should avoid after skis this upcoming weekend.

Sweden has 10 million people and 85% of them live in villages with 200 or fewer people.  

And just from being curious - source for this please.

dignin

Lerxst1992 said:

dignin said:

Lerxst1992 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Pretty sure the comfort question was asked and answered.  Not sure why being antagonistic has to remain a part of your posts.  Let it go.

Shit is awful for so many.

Who follows CA, today?

In the age of false flag trump it was very infuriating reading those posts here the past 36 hours. Especially because my life and death is contingent on you and everyone else being smart and intelligent.

Especially as I was sitting for the last four days in one of the top ICUs in the Northeast, speaking with top doctors about the current healthcare situation. Especially how I was quarantined for nearly 40 hours due to one similar symptom of a family member. Zero room for misdiagnosis in these troubled times. We for the most part knew our family health issue was a virus other than covid, still scary as shit? The tests take days to be certain of accuracy. Currently everyone healthy.

 Especially reading how one long time poster was comforted because while walking their dog or something like that a doctor they know told them this is overblown. ID specialist completely updated? Who the FMe knows. And another long time poster was comforted by living in a Logan’s Run horror movie. Glad for that.

Make more sense now?


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I get where your coming from, but your anger is misdirected going after an individual poster you know nothing about. You got it completely wrong with your comfort rants.

So knock it off.

you are still personally attacking someone who was at ground zero of this pandemic this week. Message received.

Personally attacking? Not even close.

We all have our own situations to deal with, it doesn't excuse your behavior. 

mcgruff10

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

- The pressure on them to act is great, but it is probably wise to act more sensibly. In a free society we cannot keep the cases to zero because then we have to weld the doors of people like they did in China and our society does not work. We must focus on protecting the old.

The infectious doctor believes it is good if Sweden's young population can gain some immunity while the old ones protect themselves. For the virus will remain forever.

- If schools close now, what happens when they open again? Should we close the community again this fall? It is incredibly worthwhile if half the population is immune to the fall.

Renfield

mcgruff10 said:

some images are disturbing but I believe this is a very objective 8 minute doc on why these viruses keep starting in China:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54

Been watching and sharing this video for about a week now-informative and a good concise history lesson

mcgruff10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

- The pressure on them to act is great, but it is probably wise to act more sensibly. In a free society we cannot keep the cases to zero because then we have to weld the doors of people like they did in China and our society does not work. We must focus on protecting the old.

The infectious doctor believes it is good if Sweden's young population can gain some immunity while the old ones protect themselves. For the virus will remain forever.

- If schools close now, what happens when they open again? Should we close the community again this fall? It is incredibly worthwhile if half the population is immune to the fall.

I'm glad I live where I live.  

mcgruff10

Renfield said:

mcgruff10 said:

some images are disturbing but I believe this is a very objective 8 minute doc on why these viruses keep starting in China:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54

Been watching and sharing this video for about a week now-informative and a good concise history lesson

Yeah that video taught me a lot.  I never knew how bad the conditions are in those markets.  

rgambs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

- The pressure on them to act is great, but it is probably wise to act more sensibly. In a free society we cannot keep the cases to zero because then we have to weld the doors of people like they did in China and our society does not work. We must focus on protecting the old.

The infectious doctor believes it is good if Sweden's young population can gain some immunity while the old ones protect themselves. For the virus will remain forever.

- If schools close now, what happens when they open again? Should we close the community again this fall? It is incredibly worthwhile if half the population is immune to the fall.

Congratulations on finding a Swedish doctor to agree with lol 

mcgruff10

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

- The pressure on them to act is great, but it is probably wise to act more sensibly. In a free society we cannot keep the cases to zero because then we have to weld the doors of people like they did in China and our society does not work. We must focus on protecting the old.

The infectious doctor believes it is good if Sweden's young population can gain some immunity while the old ones protect themselves. For the virus will remain forever.

- If schools close now, what happens when they open again? Should we close the community again this fall? It is incredibly worthwhile if half the population is immune to the fall.

Congratulations on finding a Swedish doctor to agree with lol 

I mean kids can get this virus and spread it when they come home, I don't understand the thinking behind this.  (not you, the one Swedish doctor)

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

- The pressure on them to act is great, but it is probably wise to act more sensibly. In a free society we cannot keep the cases to zero because then we have to weld the doors of people like they did in China and our society does not work. We must focus on protecting the old.

The infectious doctor believes it is good if Sweden's young population can gain some immunity while the old ones protect themselves. For the virus will remain forever.

- If schools close now, what happens when they open again? Should we close the community again this fall? It is incredibly worthwhile if half the population is immune to the fall.

Congratulations on finding a Swedish doctor to agree with lol 

Perheps you should:

https://youtu.be/tAVVy_x3Erg

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

- The pressure on them to act is great, but it is probably wise to act more sensibly. In a free society we cannot keep the cases to zero because then we have to weld the doors of people like they did in China and our society does not work. We must focus on protecting the old.

The infectious doctor believes it is good if Sweden's young population can gain some immunity while the old ones protect themselves. For the virus will remain forever.

- If schools close now, what happens when they open again? Should we close the community again this fall? It is incredibly worthwhile if half the population is immune to the fall.

Congratulations on finding a Swedish doctor to agree with lol 

I mean kids can get this virus and spread it when they come home, I don't understand the thinking behind this.  (not you, the one Swedish doctor)

Then, go through it step by step in your head again.
Or, just read the text posted. He spells it out.

F Me In The Brain

I was against the school closure, initially, until I thought about it more and applied logic and reason.

There is little reason to have a stay at home policy if you are going to allow kids to run around and spread the shit.  Only a person without knowledge of actual kids would think there is a way to keep them 6 feet apart, not touching things, not touching their faces, etc.

Kids pick it up at home or at school and that starts the chain reaction to spread everywhere.

No reason for any of us to believe the social distancing will be highly effective if we cannot stop the spread within our own homes.

rhanishane

Australian borders are now shut for at least the next 6 months to anyone not a citizen, resident or immediate family member. 

Spiritual_Chaos

16 dead in Sweden.

mcgruff10

We have 1200 students in our school, roughly 400 in each lunch and up to 28 kids in a class. No way to keep them separated.  

Spiritual_Chaos

F Me In The Brain said:

I was against the school closure, initially, until I thought about it more and applied logic and reason.

There is little reason to have a stay at home policy if you are going to allow kids to run around and spread the shit.  Only a person without knowledge of actual kids would think there is a way to keep them 6 feet apart, not touching things, not touching their faces, etc.

Kids pick it up at home or at school and that starts the chain reaction to spread everywhere.

No reason for any of us to believe the social distancing will be highly effective if we cannot stop the spread within our own homes.

That is why we put them at virus camp. Make an entire generation immune in one swoop.

My plan still reign supreme.

Lets armageddon this shit. Think outside the box.

rgambs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

All schools in an infected area should be closed.  Those places are like petri dishes, kids sneezing and coughing.  Ugh I was on edge last week.  

- The pressure on them to act is great, but it is probably wise to act more sensibly. In a free society we cannot keep the cases to zero because then we have to weld the doors of people like they did in China and our society does not work. We must focus on protecting the old.

The infectious doctor believes it is good if Sweden's young population can gain some immunity while the old ones protect themselves. For the virus will remain forever.

- If schools close now, what happens when they open again? Should we close the community again this fall? It is incredibly worthwhile if half the population is immune to the fall.

Congratulations on finding a Swedish doctor to agree with lol 

Perheps you should:

https://youtu.be/tAVVy_x3Erg

I don't understand that because I am a grown adult lol

I hope Sweden fares well, but it's a microcosm that doesn't mean anything to the rest of the world, statistically.  I know that sounds rude but I don't say it with any rancor.  
I will remember that this is page 83 and I will remind you if things in Sweden get out of hand.  I truly hope that doesn't happen.