cincybearcat said:

So far the coronavirus has cost me 3 Pearl Jam concerts With friends and family and a ncaa tournament trip with my dad. Not to mention a spring break girls trip for my wife and daughter. And a few other big deals for my family I don’t care to mention specifically.

im concerned about the health of a few specific people close to me. And sad for those who have been effected in the most awful way.  This is just all bad. And no joke, the world needs to figure out how to hold China accountable for their continued nonsense 

tempo_n_groove said:

Thanks all for answering.

Kind of hard to believe we don't have anyone freaking out and that is good.

I have a very sick Aunt in the hospital whom I go see but am afraid to get close because I travel frequently into the city.  I've been using the purell stations and using the 6' rule. 

static111 said:

cincybearcat said:

So far the coronavirus has cost me 3 Pearl Jam concerts With friends and family and a ncaa tournament trip with my dad. Not to mention a spring break girls trip for my wife and daughter. And a few other big deals for my family I don’t care to mention specifically.

im concerned about the health of a few specific people close to me. And sad for those who have been effected in the most awful way.  This is just all bad. And no joke, the world needs to figure out how to hold China accountable for their continued nonsense 

Wait so this isn’t Trumps fault?

“Those were the three things that were markers for me to say this is definitely different,” he told Yahoo News. 

McNamara is a field operations manager at Spectrum and drives for Uber on weekends, so he was concerned about showing up to work sick and possibly infecting others. After going to Adirondack Urgent Care in Queensbury, N.Y., he tested negative for seasonal influenza and was told he had an unknown virus before being sent home. 

But after reading that a pharmacist at a local CVS where he shops had tested positive for COVID-19, McNamara wondered why he hadn’t been tested for coronavirus himself and decided to follow up with the urgent care unit.  

The frustrating response he received gives an insight into the experience of many Americans who are seeking the tests, which continue to be in limited supply despite reassurances from the Trump administration.

“They said, ‘Well, we didn’t test you because, No. 1, we don’t test for it here. You’d have to go somewhere else,’” McNamara recounted. “‘But we didn’t recommend any testing because you did not meet the CDC’s criteria of having traveled outside the country to a known nation or place that has it, and you also have not been in contact with anybody who has it.’” 

Still concerned, McNamara said he followed up with the Warren County Health Services. But they also told him he did not meet the CDC’s criteria for testing.  

J'nelle Oxford, public health program coordinator at Warren County Health Services, told Yahoo News, “It's still cold and virus season,” and symptoms of coronavirus alone are currently not grounds for coronavirus testing. She said they are still prioritizing those who are “high risk” and “high exposure,” including those who had been to a country with a level 2 or level 3 travel health noticeor in close contact with someone who has been diagnosed with coronavirus.          

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

cincybearcat said:

So far the coronavirus has cost me 3 Pearl Jam concerts With friends and family and a ncaa tournament trip with my dad. Not to mention a spring break girls trip for my wife and daughter. And a few other big deals for my family I don’t care to mention specifically.

im concerned about the health of a few specific people close to me. And sad for those who have been effected in the most awful way.  This is just all bad. And no joke, the world needs to figure out how to hold China accountable for their continued nonsense 

Wait so this isn’t Trumps fault?

The US system is under the gun, and clearly the administration is doing everything it can to minimize. Our overly complex system, rules for denying care, can come back and bite anyone in power who defends the status quo. If fatalities get bad in the US (and geez, shouldn’t it already be), stories like the below will be prominent after the fact. Turning away potential victims. And even if 80% of this virus is mild and undetectable, it’s still much much deadlier than the flu:

” Matt McNamara, 46, was concerned when he developed a sore throat, cough and fever last Friday.    

“Those were the three things that were markers for me to say this is definitely different,” he told Yahoo News. 

McNamara is a field operations manager at Spectrum and drives for Uber on weekends, so he was concerned about showing up to work sick and possibly infecting others. After going to Adirondack Urgent Care in Queensbury, N.Y., he tested negative for seasonal influenza and was told he had an unknown virus before being sent home. 

But after reading that a pharmacist at a local CVS where he shops had tested positive for COVID-19, McNamara wondered why he hadn’t been tested for coronavirus himself and decided to follow up with the urgent care unit.  

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jeffbr said:

static111 said:

myoung321 said:

wow....Ever seen Trump look like this? Body language says a ton!!!   He addresses the nation tonight..   

I have a feeling the people running around saying this is no big deal.."No Worse Than Normal Flu" are about to get that bubble popped... 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-statement-coronavirus-tonight-205626140.html




Why is he meeting with banking leaders to discuss this. Shouldn’t he be all in with I don’t know doctors and actual scientists and specialists?

That gets right to the heart of Trump's response to any issue. It all goes back to the market. This should be approached as a public health emergency, not an economic problem. Sure, the economy will suffer because of this, but if we don't address the underlying public health crisis, then nothing will help on the economic side of things. The problem is that he can fudge numbers on the economy, and he can make excuses for politics. But the death toll doesn't lie.
Also curious, speaking of scientists and specialists, is that the coronavirus response in the WH is classified. Many of our experts and scientists have been excluded from meetings because they don't have the proper security clearances. 

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

From the Reuters article:

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.

Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”

The sources said the National Security Council (NSC), which advises the president on security issues, ordered the classification.”This came directly from the White House,” one official said.

The White House insistence on secrecy at the nation’s premier public health organization, which has not been previously disclosed, has put a lid on certain information - and potentially delayed the response to the crisis. COVID19, the disease caused by the virus, has killed about 30 people in the United States and infected more than 1,000 people.

Ledbetterman10 said:

Trump looking a little nervous/fidgety during this address. Voice crackling and whatnot. Well when the going gets tough...