The coronavirus

nicknyr15 said:

dignin said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

CM189191 said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

No mention of tRUmp in Ed's letter? Why?  He is a global bully.  He caused this.  The world needs to stand up to him.

Trump says he supports UK leaving EU without a Brexit deal
Trump says he will withdraw from NAFTA
Trump withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership
Trump threatens to withdraw from World Trade Organization

Obsessed. You take my post as defending trump. All I’m saying is it seems easy to blame him and even easier to leave China out because of the stranglehold they have on the world. Man there are some loonies out here. I can’t imagine being that obsessed with a president. You make the birth certificate wackos seem normal. 

You clearly haven’t been paying attention.

Unfortunately I have. 

Then you would have read the WHO Report I linked to yesterday and had many of your questions and concerns perhaps addressed. But I don’t think you did. It’s only 40 pages, summarized quite nicely and easy to read for a “technical” report. No pictures though.

You are a terrible human. That’s what I’ve gathered from stopping in AMT. Condescending and incredibly rude. Do you talk down to everyone ? Is that your thing? Let’s see if you can respond without mentioning your obsession, trump. 

A word of advice, I don't think you will have to worry about posting in the AMT for long if you continue down this path. 

As an aside, Halifax is great. A treasure of the AMT.

Down what path? Not agreeing with everything that you and Halifax say? What does that say about you? Weird. 

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

CM189191 said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

No mention of tRUmp in Ed's letter? Why?  He is a global bully.  He caused this.  The world needs to stand up to him.

Trump says he supports UK leaving EU without a Brexit deal
Trump says he will withdraw from NAFTA
Trump withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership
Trump threatens to withdraw from World Trade Organization

Obsessed. You take my post as defending trump. All I’m saying is it seems easy to blame him and even easier to leave China out because of the stranglehold they have on the world. Man there are some loonies out here. I can’t imagine being that obsessed with a president. You make the birth certificate wackos seem normal. 

You clearly haven’t been paying attention.

Unfortunately I have. 

Then you would have read the WHO Report I linked to yesterday and had many of your questions and concerns perhaps addressed. But I don’t think you did. It’s only 40 pages, summarized quite nicely and easy to read for a “technical” report. No pictures though.

You are a terrible human. That’s what I’ve gathered from stopping in AMT. Condescending and incredibly rude. Do you talk down to everyone ? Is that your thing? Let’s see if you can respond without mentioning your obsession, trump. 

mace1229 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mace1229 said:

nicknyr15 said:

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

Are they touring China? Must have missed that announcement.

Yeah no reason for any of that in the letter.

I do agree with the sentiment that the world should have discussions with China regarding this.  And businesses should take this into consideration for future as well.  There is a cost to that low cost labor and propping up that government. 

Yes. No reason for that in the letter. I’m just bringing up a point that no one stands up to China and it’s getting bad. 

I agree. The new green deal means nothing when we outsource almost all of our products to a country that doesn't care. Raising minimum wage isn't as effective when we rely on a country that uses child labor. Not having a green deal and keeping more business here would actually be far better for the environment. Tighter restrictions without involving China just means more business to China and in the end worse for the environment. So any politician that fights for a green deal and doesn't stand up to China is just playing politics, they aren't in it for the environment.
But a tour announcement isn't really the place to start all that.

So where does this end -- should a country trade with a country that is not in the Paris Agreement? I mean, would that country be in it for the environment?

Don't know about the end. But lets start by reducing our dependency and reliance on China instead of digging deeper into it. Lets begin to pay off our debt to them instead of doubling it with every president. At this point we are so in debt to China and rely on them for so much we really have no say on what goes on over there. 
Anyone who cares about the environment should care about our national debt and our depedency on China. Now look where we are at, China is threatening to kill Americans by without vital products. We need to rebuild our own infrastructure so we can have a say in what China does.

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mace1229 said:

nicknyr15 said:

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

Are they touring China? Must have missed that announcement.

Yeah no reason for any of that in the letter.

I do agree with the sentiment that the world should have discussions with China regarding this.  And businesses should take this into consideration for future as well.  There is a cost to that low cost labor and propping up that government. 

Yes. No reason for that in the letter. I’m just bringing up a point that no one stands up to China and it’s getting bad. 

I agree. The new green deal means nothing when we outsource almost all of our products to a country that doesn't care. Raising minimum wage isn't as effective when we rely on a country that uses child labor. Not having a green deal and keeping more business here would actually be far better for the environment. Tighter restrictions without involving China just means more business to China and in the end worse for the environment. So any politician that fights for a green deal and doesn't stand up to China is just playing politics, they aren't in it for the environment.
But a tour announcement isn't really the place to start all that.

So where does this end -- should a country trade with a country that is not in the Paris Agreement? I mean, would that country be in it for the environment?

Don't know about the end. But lets start by reducing our dependency and reliance on China instead of digging deeper into it. Lets begin to pay off our debt to them instead of doubling it with every president. At this point we are so in debt to China and rely on them for so much we really have no say on what goes on over there. 
Anyone who cares about the environment should care about our national debt and our depedency on China. Now look where we are at, China is threatening to kill Americans by without vital products. We need to rebuild our own infrastructure so we can have a say in what China does.

People will call us "isolationists" and "nationalists" if we start relying on our country to stand on it's own 2 feet.

I mean that tongue in cheek but this is the type of conversations that start when certain political figures make mention of this.

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mace1229 said:

nicknyr15 said:

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

Are they touring China? Must have missed that announcement.

Yeah no reason for any of that in the letter.

I do agree with the sentiment that the world should have discussions with China regarding this.  And businesses should take this into consideration for future as well.  There is a cost to that low cost labor and propping up that government. 

Yes. No reason for that in the letter. I’m just bringing up a point that no one stands up to China and it’s getting bad. 

I agree. The new green deal means nothing when we outsource almost all of our products to a country that doesn't care. Raising minimum wage isn't as effective when we rely on a country that uses child labor. Not having a green deal and keeping more business here would actually be far better for the environment. Tighter restrictions without involving China just means more business to China and in the end worse for the environment. So any politician that fights for a green deal and doesn't stand up to China is just playing politics, they aren't in it for the environment.
But a tour announcement isn't really the place to start all that.

So where does this end -- should a country trade with a country that is not in the Paris Agreement? I mean, would that country be in it for the environment?

Don't know about the end. But lets start by reducing our dependency and reliance on China instead of digging deeper into it. Lets begin to pay off our debt to them instead of doubling it with every president. At this point we are so in debt to China and rely on them for so much we really have no say on what goes on over there. 
Anyone who cares about the environment should care about our national debt and our depedency on China. Now look where we are at, China is threatening to kill Americans by without vital products. We need to rebuild our own infrastructure so we can have a say in what China does.

People will call us "isolationists" and "nationalists" if we start relying on our country to stand on it's own 2 feet.

I mean that tongue in cheek but this is the type of conversations that start when certain political figures make mention of this.

Sorry, but there's no way mass manufacturing is coming back to the States.  We are too comfortable with $400 65" Tv's and the like.  Americans haven't made a sacrifice since WWII.  However, we should have a global supply chain that is centered with free and open countries, not closed dictatorships.  Again... TPP.  

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

lol you want Ed to call out China lol , how about the supreme leader stand up to bullies! Man it’s unreal how unrealistic people are. 
they postponed the spring leg because of the incompetence of our president not China’s!

I want THE WORLD to call out China. The spring leg is postponed because of an outbreak of a virus that started in China because of their complete disregard for everything. Am I wrong? If the European tour is postponed, who’s fault would that be? I’m just curious. I don’t give a fuck about trump. Let’s make believe he doesn’t exist. Is that possible for some of you? 

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

lol you want Ed to call out China lol , how about the supreme leader stand up to bullies! Man it’s unreal how unrealistic people are. 
they postponed the spring leg because of the incompetence of our president not China’s!

I want THE WORLD to call out China. The spring leg is postponed because of an outbreak of a virus that started in China because of their complete disregard for everything. Am I wrong? If the European tour is postponed, who’s fault would that be? I’m just curious. I don’t give a fuck about trump. Let’s make believe he doesn’t exist. Is that possible for some of you? 

He is the President of the United States. His words and actions matter. We shouldn't need to pretend he doesn't exist.  

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

lol you want Ed to call out China lol , how about the supreme leader stand up to bullies! Man it’s unreal how unrealistic people are. 
they postponed the spring leg because of the incompetence of our president not China’s!

I want THE WORLD to call out China. The spring leg is postponed because of an outbreak of a virus that started in China because of their complete disregard for everything. Am I wrong? If the European tour is postponed, who’s fault would that be? I’m just curious. I don’t give a fuck about trump. Let’s make believe he doesn’t exist. Is that possible for some of you? 

He is the President of the United States. His words and actions matter. We shouldn't need to pretend he doesn't exist.  

🤦🏻‍♂️ 

If/ when the European tour gets canceled, who’s to blame? 

The virus?

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

JimmyV said:

nicknyr15 said:

josevolution said:

nicknyr15 said:

no Mention of China in Ed’s letter? Why? They are global bullies. And they caused this. The world needs to stand up to them. 

lol you want Ed to call out China lol , how about the supreme leader stand up to bullies! Man it’s unreal how unrealistic people are. 
they postponed the spring leg because of the incompetence of our president not China’s!

I want THE WORLD to call out China. The spring leg is postponed because of an outbreak of a virus that started in China because of their complete disregard for everything. Am I wrong? If the European tour is postponed, who’s fault would that be? I’m just curious. I don’t give a fuck about trump. Let’s make believe he doesn’t exist. Is that possible for some of you? 

He is the President of the United States. His words and actions matter. We shouldn't need to pretend he doesn't exist.  

🤦🏻‍♂️ 

If/ when the European tour gets canceled, who’s to blame? 

The virus?

Ok. 

If the President tells us this just like the flu, that it is contained, that it will just go away and none of that is true, who's to blame?