Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
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    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    No, he's not. There is a clear accusation of a conspiracy on the last page. 
    And who is making gross accusations now?  
    Your words are clear. Batshit crazy, but clear. You typed them. 
    And right on queue...the name calling begins.  Obviously touched a nerve here.
    I've called you no names. I've called you out for accusing the band of participating in a conspiracy against Trump and told you how crazy that is. Nowhere have you been called a name. You are not a victim. 
    Let's just chalk this up to "lost in translation".  You are taking my original post differently that I intended.  Your level of band defense is admirable and I'm a huge fan (and not even a republican.)
    You obviously didn't expect anyone to push back on your accusation, which is why I did. That is a crazy thing to accuse them of, no matter your political affiliation. 
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  • ddeschler
    ddeschler Posts: 690
    IlliniGuy76 said:
    I did this with Hotwire last night, waited 3 mins and had my "hot deal" room canceled w/n 5 mins.
    Did you have to work the virus angle extra hard to get them to cancel, or just ask politely?  They usually won't refund a "hot deal."  I'm planning to try this later tonight and want to know how to come at them.
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,403
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    No, he's not. There is a clear accusation of a conspiracy on the last page. 
    And who is making gross accusations now?  
    Your words are clear. Batshit crazy, but clear. You typed them. 
    And right on queue...the name calling begins.  Obviously touched a nerve here.
    I've called you no names. I've called you out for accusing the band of participating in a conspiracy against Trump and told you how crazy that is. Nowhere have you been called a name. You are not a victim. 

    The funny thing is it is political.

    Because republicans have decided who gets healthcare is the result of a political process. No other country does this.

    If trump and the gop cant take the heat from their healthcare decisions coming to roost right before an election they should clear out of DC before the voters do that for them.
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 965
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
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    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    No, he's not. There is a clear accusation of a conspiracy on the last page. 
    And who is making gross accusations now?  
    Your words are clear. Batshit crazy, but clear. You typed them. 
    And right on queue...the name calling begins.  Obviously touched a nerve here.
    I've called you no names. I've called you out for accusing the band of participating in a conspiracy against Trump and told you how crazy that is. Nowhere have you been called a name. You are not a victim. 
    Let's just chalk this up to "lost in translation".  You are taking my original post differently that I intended.  Your level of band defense is admirable and I'm a huge fan (and not even a republican.)
    You obviously didn't expect anyone to push back on your accusation, which is why I did. That is a crazy thing to accuse them of, no matter your political affiliation. 
    OK let's try this instead.  Can we agree that we have different opinions on what both the meaning and intent was of my original post?  You obviously are taking it to heart and feel I'm making a grand accusation. On my side, part of me thinks that they are taking advantage of a situation (not the reason for the postponement). 
  • DewieCox
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    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    Nonsense. I made the tin foil hat reference in response to:
    "But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election."

    Hardly a slightly different take.
    I think most here are understanding of the postponement, that’s the main point and I haven’t seen anyone outright lambasting the announcement. These other quibbles are relatively minor. Nobody is trying to shut  anybody up. Nobody is susrprised PJ is being political. Myself, I think by mentioning it that it’s likely the effect it may have was a factor in the decision to postpone at this time.
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,128
    nc_jammer1 said:
    vedpunk said:
    Post Malone is playing a 20k arena in Austin tonight and Chris Stapleton is playing that same arena on Thursday.  That's just this week.
    It's obvious the tours that are ramped up in current production are likely taking it day by day.  Tool played Spokane last night , Portland tomorrow.  yada yada …

    Clearly PJ made the call to not even get started.  Santana has postponed as well.
    I think that's a huge piece of it.  Instead of having everyone in their crew and all their equipment out and moving around, then having to send everyone home after 2-3-4-5 shows (and take any unnecessary risk) they just called it early.  If the tour had started a month ago, we may not be in this situation.  

    Some acts will continue on, some will call it. I would hope that nobody is just recklessly going out and playing 20K arenas without some education behind their decision. 
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 965
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    Nonsense. I made the tin foil hat reference in response to:
    "But there's also a part of me that feels they are taking advantage of a situation to support the liberal media's mission to promote fear, bring down the stock market and, in turn, prevent Trump from winning another election."

    Hardly a slightly different take.
    I think most here are understanding of the postponement, that’s the main point and I haven’t seen anyone outright lambasting the announcement. These other quibbles are relatively minor. Nobody is trying to shut  anybody up. Nobody is susrprised PJ is being political. Myself, I think by mentioning it that it’s likely the effect it may have was a factor in the decision to postpone at this time.
    Bingo.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,403
    Saying it shouldn't be political cuts both ways. 

    Nate Silver(politics  statistician) points out voting projections are based on the virus not postponing primaries.

    If this virus returns in the fall it is very possible our supreme leader " postpones" the election for safety. Maybe he'll cite Ed's letter. 
  • RS65573
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    ddeschler said:
    IlliniGuy76 said:
    I did this with Hotwire last night, waited 3 mins and had my "hot deal" room canceled w/n 5 mins.
    Did you have to work the virus angle extra hard to get them to cancel, or just ask politely?  They usually won't refund a "hot deal."  I'm planning to try this later tonight and want to know how to come at them.
    I called personally and was very nice, said im coming from NJ where Coronavirus is now. BOOM refund. I mean you want me to come? Didnt get that far.
  • pbultimate
    pbultimate Posts: 621
    RS65573 said:
    ddeschler said:
    IlliniGuy76 said:
    I did this with Hotwire last night, waited 3 mins and had my "hot deal" room canceled w/n 5 mins.
    Did you have to work the virus angle extra hard to get them to cancel, or just ask politely?  They usually won't refund a "hot deal."  I'm planning to try this later tonight and want to know how to come at them.
    I called personally and was very nice, said im coming from NJ where Coronavirus is now. BOOM refund. I mean you want me to come? Didnt get that far.
    It truly is amazing what being nice will get you in the refund world. More people should try it.
  • nc_jammer1
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,265
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    No, he's not. There is a clear accusation of a conspiracy on the last page. 
    And who is making gross accusations now?  
    Your words are clear. Batshit crazy, but clear. You typed them. 
    And right on queue...the name calling begins.  Obviously touched a nerve here.
    I've called you no names. I've called you out for accusing the band of participating in a conspiracy against Trump and told you how crazy that is. Nowhere have you been called a name. You are not a victim. 
    Let's just chalk this up to "lost in translation".  You are taking my original post differently that I intended.  Your level of band defense is admirable and I'm a huge fan (and not even a republican.)
    You obviously didn't expect anyone to push back on your accusation, which is why I did. That is a crazy thing to accuse them of, no matter your political affiliation. 
    On my side, part of me thinks that they are taking advantage of a situation (not the reason for the postponement). 
    What is the advantage they are gaining?

  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    Tim Simmons said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    No, he's not. There is a clear accusation of a conspiracy on the last page. 
    And who is making gross accusations now?  
    Your words are clear. Batshit crazy, but clear. You typed them. 
    And right on queue...the name calling begins.  Obviously touched a nerve here.
    I've called you no names. I've called you out for accusing the band of participating in a conspiracy against Trump and told you how crazy that is. Nowhere have you been called a name. You are not a victim. 
    Let's just chalk this up to "lost in translation".  You are taking my original post differently that I intended.  Your level of band defense is admirable and I'm a huge fan (and not even a republican.)
    You obviously didn't expect anyone to push back on your accusation, which is why I did. That is a crazy thing to accuse them of, no matter your political affiliation. 
    On my side, part of me thinks that they are taking advantage of a situation (not the reason for the postponement). 
    What is the advantage they are gaining?

    By postponing concerts that they otherwise could have allowed to go on as planned, they will mislead the public into believing that the president isn't doing an amazing job of confronting this situation.
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  • Tim Simmons
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  • YAKIMATSU
    YAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 1,145
    tdawe said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    No, he's not. There is a clear accusation of a conspiracy on the last page. 
    And who is making gross accusations now?  
    Your words are clear. Batshit crazy, but clear. You typed them. 
    And right on queue...the name calling begins.  Obviously touched a nerve here.
    I've called you no names. I've called you out for accusing the band of participating in a conspiracy against Trump and told you how crazy that is. Nowhere have you been called a name. You are not a victim. 
    Let's just chalk this up to "lost in translation".  You are taking my original post differently that I intended.  Your level of band defense is admirable and I'm a huge fan (and not even a republican.)
    You obviously didn't expect anyone to push back on your accusation, which is why I did. That is a crazy thing to accuse them of, no matter your political affiliation. 
    On my side, part of me thinks that they are taking advantage of a situation (not the reason for the postponement). 
    What is the advantage they are gaining?

    By postponing concerts that they otherwise could have allowed to go on as planned, they will mislead the public into believing that the president isn't doing an amazing job of confronting this situation.
    You forgot to sign it "huge fan".
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 965
    Tim Simmons said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    DewieCox said:
    jeffbr said:
    DewieCox said:
    Tin foil? They put it in the announcement. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all.
    They put what in the announcement? That PJ is trying to take down Trump and they postponed the tour to crater Trump's reelection prospects? Looney Tunes, man.
    They made the announcement a political statement with a pretty clear agenda. You’re the one bringing deep conspiracy into the conversation , I guess in an effort to discredit those with what amounts to a very slightly different take to most people here. 
    No, he's not. There is a clear accusation of a conspiracy on the last page. 
    And who is making gross accusations now?  
    Your words are clear. Batshit crazy, but clear. You typed them. 
    And right on queue...the name calling begins.  Obviously touched a nerve here.
    I've called you no names. I've called you out for accusing the band of participating in a conspiracy against Trump and told you how crazy that is. Nowhere have you been called a name. You are not a victim. 
    Let's just chalk this up to "lost in translation".  You are taking my original post differently that I intended.  Your level of band defense is admirable and I'm a huge fan (and not even a republican.)
    You obviously didn't expect anyone to push back on your accusation, which is why I did. That is a crazy thing to accuse them of, no matter your political affiliation. 
    On my side, part of me thinks that they are taking advantage of a situation (not the reason for the postponement). 
    What is the advantage they are gaining?

    An opportunity to throw shade at the president.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,265
    So they
    • Planned a tour 
    • Booked travel for the band and crew 
    • Tied it to a new album release date
    • Promoted the tour 
    • Rehearsed for the tour 
    • Loaded up roadcases and the stage 

    Only to cancel it, so they could stick it to the president (well, the government generally) in 2 lines of an 18 sentence press release. 


    that right?

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,265
    Very Soros-ian move TBH.
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 965
    Sorry not sure where you’re going with this.  Maybe reread the past few pages or let it go. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,201
    Tim Simmons said:
    So they
    • Planned a tour 
    • Booked travel for the band and crew 
    • Tied it to a new album release date
    • Promoted the tour 
    • Rehearsed for the tour 
    • Loaded up roadcases and the stage 

    Only to cancel it, so they could stick it to the president (well, the government generally) in 2 lines of an 18 sentence press release. 


    that right?

    That is 100% correct. Plus all the time and effort into the fake Apollo contest.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......

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