CoVid19 Virus : Impact on PJ Spring & Summer Tours

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  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 3,131
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,764
    'I understand this 'gotta protect your family' sentiment, but a woman I work with just ran out of here like a bat out hell because her kid called her up and said that one of the other kids in school was coughing.

    ...BECAUSE ANOTHER CHILD WAS COUGHING FOR CHRIST'S SAKES.'


    And pretty soon they'll move into their bunkers....this is ridiculous. Wonder how the anti-vaxxers feel right about now
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    YAKIMATSU said:
    And i got hammered for saying exactly  the same as these posts right here. This place is ridiculous 
    A portion seem to believe that because they aren't in the high risk areas or demographic that this, literally, is nothing to worry about. They don't seem to realize until getting repeatedly beaten over the head, sometimes, that we are all connected.  Connected down to the star dust. Some appear to not give an f about anything or anybody other than themselves.  Explains our lack of universal healthcare and our huge homeless problem and our massive military. Humans afraid to behave humanely. 
    are you suggesting we all should just shutter in place at home for the next few months?   I get that we are all connected but at this point there is no need to over react and over panic either.  98% of the people who get this virus are fine.    What do you suggest our action should be?
  • Manu117
    Manu117 Burlington VT Posts: 117
    pjhawks said:
    So many events out there yet to be cancelled/ postponed though,  concerts, sporting events, etc.  What are the big sports leagues thinking ? NHL and NBA that play in these same arenas ?   Think about the busy subways, train stations, buses, cabs,  etc throughout the US and Canada, these would be more susceptible then a concert due to daily volume of people coming and going.  Covid is obviously a major concern, ...  level of concern should be directly linked to one's personal health situation.  The economy is taking a major hit due to careless speculation and skewed statistics,...but that's the norm in today's world.   I'm thinking that PJ is looking to these other entertainment entities (sports leagues etc) to see how they react in the coming days and weeks.
    as someone said earlier in this thread these decisions will be made by the states and cities. I don't see these professional sports teams voluntarily keeping fans out.  the issue with the PJ tour seems to be that is starts right around the time you would expect the possibility of a mass infection of people to happen. right now it's contained a bit in the US and Canada but how much more will there be in 2-3 weeks?  If the tour was may-june i'd feel much better about the possibility of no disruption. 
    Band's insurance could have something to do with it, though. It's very possible band (or venue) insurance policies may decide not to cover coronavirus related issues. 
  • AmishGuy91
    AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    tish said:
    ^ Although thi information is not advertised,  Disney cruise offers booking changes, even for cruises not insured, for 300$ US per passenger. Call your cruise line and speak to guest services to see unpublished offerings.

    A coworker of mine did this as well
    All major cruise lines including Disney now are allowing for free rebookings on upcoming cruises.  Hopefully your friends aren't really out that $300
  • chiwhitesox
    chiwhitesox Chicago Posts: 696
    YAKIMATSU said:
    And i got hammered for saying exactly  the same as these posts right here. This place is ridiculous 
    A portion seem to believe that because they aren't in the high risk areas or demographic that this, literally, is nothing to worry about. They don't seem to realize until getting repeatedly beaten over the head, sometimes, that we are all connected.  Connected down to the star dust. Some appear to not give an f about anything or anybody other than themselves.  Explains our lack of universal healthcare and our huge homeless problem and our massive military. Humans afraid to behave humanely. 

    "Star Dust"...

    LOL. Wow. This thread has really gone off the rails.


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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,764
    One of the problems with travel insurance is that the fear of travel due to a virus outbreak is NOT a reason for refund. 
  • nc_jammer1
    nc_jammer1 Posts: 547
    pjhawks said:
    So many events out there yet to be cancelled/ postponed though,  concerts, sporting events, etc.  What are the big sports leagues thinking ? NHL and NBA that play in these same arenas ?   Think about the busy subways, train stations, buses, cabs,  etc throughout the US and Canada, these would be more susceptible then a concert due to daily volume of people coming and going.  Covid is obviously a major concern, ...  level of concern should be directly linked to one's personal health situation.  The economy is taking a major hit due to careless speculation and skewed statistics,...but that's the norm in today's world.   I'm thinking that PJ is looking to these other entertainment entities (sports leagues etc) to see how they react in the coming days and weeks.
    as someone said earlier in this thread these decisions will be made by the states and cities. I don't see these professional sports teams voluntarily keeping fans out.  the issue with the PJ tour seems to be that is starts right around the time you would expect the possibility of a mass infection of people to happen. right now it's contained a bit in the US and Canada but how much more will there be in 2-3 weeks?  If the tour was may-june i'd feel much better about the possibility of no disruption. 
    I disagree,  I don't see these billion dollar sports leagues choosing a strategy that puts them at the mercy of rapid decisions by any individual cities , states . counties etc.  Any one game that's shut down will spiral through the whole league.  They're definitely keeping a close eye, and I would imagine they'd prefer to control their own destiny.
  • YAKIMATSU
    YAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 1,133
    pjhawks said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    And i got hammered for saying exactly  the same as these posts right here. This place is ridiculous 
    A portion seem to believe that because they aren't in the high risk areas or demographic that this, literally, is nothing to worry about. They don't seem to realize until getting repeatedly beaten over the head, sometimes, that we are all connected.  Connected down to the star dust. Some appear to not give an f about anything or anybody other than themselves.  Explains our lack of universal healthcare and our huge homeless problem and our massive military. Humans afraid to behave humanely. 
    are you suggesting we all should just shutter in place at home for the next few months?   I get that we are all connected but at this point there is no need to over react and over panic either.  98% of the people who get this virus are fine.    What do you suggest our action should be?
    No.
    I don't know. Isn't that the real problem. Maybe we could be more prepared for likely catastrophic events than we are for war.
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  • One of the problems with travel insurance is that the fear of travel due to a virus outbreak is NOT a reason for refund. 
    I had a trip to Spain during the US portion of the tour.  We had to cancel because our friend who has the time share in which we r staying can't go because he's on a biologic medicine so his risk for contraction is high.  I have travel insurance and chose the option for cancel for any reason (extra charge).  The rep said that the claim should be approved.  We spoke a bit and she said that the standard policy will probably not cover if the country, state or other govt body imposes restrictions,  I notice an exclusion dealing with govt prohibitions.  Remember each policy is different.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    YAKIMATSU said:
    pjhawks said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    And i got hammered for saying exactly  the same as these posts right here. This place is ridiculous 
    A portion seem to believe that because they aren't in the high risk areas or demographic that this, literally, is nothing to worry about. They don't seem to realize until getting repeatedly beaten over the head, sometimes, that we are all connected.  Connected down to the star dust. Some appear to not give an f about anything or anybody other than themselves.  Explains our lack of universal healthcare and our huge homeless problem and our massive military. Humans afraid to behave humanely. 
    are you suggesting we all should just shutter in place at home for the next few months?   I get that we are all connected but at this point there is no need to over react and over panic either.  98% of the people who get this virus are fine.    What do you suggest our action should be?
    No.
    I don't know. Isn't that the real problem. Maybe we could be more prepared for likely catastrophic events than we are for war.
    yes there are a lot of unknowns.  i wonder if anyone here is in the Seattle area. Washington state seems to be ground zero in the US at the moment. how is it being handled there?  are schools closed?
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,764
    One of the problems with travel insurance is that the fear of travel due to a virus outbreak is NOT a reason for refund. 
    I had a trip to Spain during the US portion of the tour.  We had to cancel because our friend who has the time share in which we r staying can't go because he's on a biologic medicine so his risk for contraction is high.  I have travel insurance and chose the option for cancel for any reason (extra charge).  The rep said that the claim should be approved.  We spoke a bit and she said that the standard policy will probably not cover if the country, state or other govt body imposes restrictions,  I notice an exclusion dealing with govt prohibitions.  Remember each policy is different.
    yes, there are more expensive policies to be bought....
  • PJNB
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    Here is what is being said by the professionals for the incident at the Tool concert. 

    Director-General of Health Dr. Ashley Bloomfield believes the risk to others in the audience is low at this time, but that concert-goers should still be concerned. “There’s no way we could know which people were in that area,” said Bloomfield. “So, our advice to them is that they are casual contacts; they are at low risk.”
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  • WMAmorican
    WMAmorican Posts: 248
    pjhawks said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    pjhawks said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    And i got hammered for saying exactly  the same as these posts right here. This place is ridiculous 
    A portion seem to believe that because they aren't in the high risk areas or demographic that this, literally, is nothing to worry about. They don't seem to realize until getting repeatedly beaten over the head, sometimes, that we are all connected.  Connected down to the star dust. Some appear to not give an f about anything or anybody other than themselves.  Explains our lack of universal healthcare and our huge homeless problem and our massive military. Humans afraid to behave humanely. 
    are you suggesting we all should just shutter in place at home for the next few months?   I get that we are all connected but at this point there is no need to over react and over panic either.  98% of the people who get this virus are fine.    What do you suggest our action should be?
    No.
    I don't know. Isn't that the real problem. Maybe we could be more prepared for likely catastrophic events than we are for war.
    yes there are a lot of unknowns.  i wonder if anyone here is in the Seattle area. Washington state seems to be ground zero in the US at the moment. how is it being handled there?  are schools closed?
    My boss's daughter goes to the University of Washington (which is in Seattle) and she told me this morning that they're now doing all classes virtually...
  • SD63653
    SD63653 AZ4LIFE Posts: 66
    pjhawks said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    pjhawks said:
    YAKIMATSU said:
    And i got hammered for saying exactly  the same as these posts right here. This place is ridiculous 
    A portion seem to believe that because they aren't in the high risk areas or demographic that this, literally, is nothing to worry about. They don't seem to realize until getting repeatedly beaten over the head, sometimes, that we are all connected.  Connected down to the star dust. Some appear to not give an f about anything or anybody other than themselves.  Explains our lack of universal healthcare and our huge homeless problem and our massive military. Humans afraid to behave humanely. 
    are you suggesting we all should just shutter in place at home for the next few months?   I get that we are all connected but at this point there is no need to over react and over panic either.  98% of the people who get this virus are fine.    What do you suggest our action should be?
    No.
    I don't know. Isn't that the real problem. Maybe we could be more prepared for likely catastrophic events than we are for war.
    yes there are a lot of unknowns.  i wonder if anyone here is in the Seattle area. Washington state seems to be ground zero in the US at the moment. how is it being handled there?  are schools closed?

    Well, here in Seattle.............Amazon is trying to get employees to work at home.  Schools close to the "Assisted Living Home" are closed.  Seattle Public Schools are open.  The City bought a MOTEL in KENT, WA for 4.1 million a couple days ago.  They will use this motel to quarantine People that have the CR19.    Yesterday it was known that a concession seller has the CR19 and was working at the XFL game this past weekend.   PENCE arrived in WA STATE last night, SO OBVIOUSLY we are all set!  He is the POINT PERSON, lucky for the USA..........Costco Monday was 500 people deep 20 minutes before it opened, I go early, all I wanted was VODKA......... so kinda pissed off this week.   If you have an underlying health issue, I definitely wouldn't say this is a NO ISSUE.

    THINK this was a today thing.............

    https://ultramusicfestival.com/official-notice


  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    edited March 2020
    When it comes down to it, it’s a bunch of bullshit and it’s bad for ya 👍🏻, let’s hope for no cancellations cause that would really suck.
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  • KM73780
    KM73780 Posts: 1,172
    I would be fine with the tour being postponed and the tickets being honored on the new dates 
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