The Democratic Presidential Debates
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Something for a freeloving hippie like you @brianlux ?
Is Bernie doing this to get to Warren? Haha.
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WILL PEARL JAM PERFORM?!"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.0 -
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Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:Something for a freeloving hippie like you @brianlux ?
Is Bernie doing this to get to Warren? Haha.*Four days
*Multiple acts
*Housing available
*Canvassing, canvassing, canvassing
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Join folks from around the country for BERNIEPALOOZA. It is the most fun and helpful way to support Bernie 2020 in Massachusetts on Super Tuesday. Come for one days, two days, four days.
WILL PEARL JAM PERFORM?!I'm guessing it's gonna be an oldies show featuring:GRANDMA
GRANDPA:
and Special Guests, THE OLD MAN BAND
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.0 -
Thank you, that was my point.mrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.0 -
Just stopmrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.0 -
Some would. The same way that some won't for a woman, including women. Plenty of polling to back that up.mrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.
Everyone has their reasons.0 -
You're so woke that you get sexism more than Hedo... who's actually a woman. You probably understand racism better than MLK did too, that's how impressive you are.ecdanc said:
Just stopmrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.0 -
You’re willfully misreading SC’s posts even after he clarified. Or you are struggling with reading again. .mrussel1 said:
You're so woke that you get sexism more than Hedo... who's actually a woman. You probably understand racism better than MLK did too, that's how impressive you are.ecdanc said:
Just stopmrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.
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The end of the Democratic Party maybe?brianlux said:Someone here (gimme?) mentioned "brokered convention" a while back. If this goes to a brokered convention, what do you all think the outcome would be?Ok...that might be hyperbole. But if Sanders goes in there with the most delegates but not enough to secure the nomination, and the superdelegates give the nomination to Biden or Bloomberg, forget about beating Trump in 2020, start worrying about Don Jr. in 2024. Even if the DNC was against Sanders in 2016, Hillary did have more delegates and deserved to win. It’s not like anyone should really cry foul. But if the party elites just tell the voters they’re wrong and put up Bloomberg, even if that is how the (lame) primary rules work, not many of the Bernie supporters are going to vote for him. And I’m not just talking “Bernie Bros” or whatever. He has millions of supporters. I can envision more protest votes from Bernie supporters for Trump than I could votes for Bloomberg in this scenario.And how many people might just be out on the Democratic Party if that happens? Not just Bernie supporters, but people that are just ashamed that their party keeps getting bested by stupid Trump? And Democrats have always been lazier in mid-terms than Republicans. Is the once-enthusiast-about-politics Bernie Sanders supporter going to show up to vote Blue in 2022? Will they care that Trump now has the Senate and the House and he’s just appointed two new conservatives to the Supreme Court? No, and why should they? Oh so their vision of America with Bernie was so dumb that you wouldn’t even entertain it, but now you want them to come back and vote for Buttigieg or Booker or whoever so they can beat Don Jr? Good luck.For the DNC to avoid disaster, they need all these people to drop out soon and leave it to one candidate versus Sanders. I think that’s the only way to avoid a brokered convention. Either pin your hopes on Mini-Mike, roll with Sleepy Joe, go for a long-shot with Alfred E. Neuman, whatever they want. But now is the time to manipulate the race and set up an avenue for beating Sanders at the ballot box, rather than trying to beat him with superdelegates at the convention.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I agree, brokered convention isn't ideal. It would be worse if they don't nominate the candidate with the most delegates, especially if it's Bernie. The Bro's would go ballistic and hello Trump for 4 more years.0
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Actually, his further response validated my question.ecdanc said:
You’re willfully misreading SC’s posts even after he clarified. Or you are struggling with reading again. .mrussel1 said:
You're so woke that you get sexism more than Hedo... who's actually a woman. You probably understand racism better than MLK did too, that's how impressive you are.ecdanc said:
Just stopmrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.
Why would I vote for anyone based solely (or even mostly) on what lies between their legs?0 -
You're struggling with social skills as usual. But I don't see any clarification that cleans it up. Hedo thanking me shows me the same.ecdanc said:
You’re willfully misreading SC’s posts even after he clarified. Or you are struggling with reading again. .mrussel1 said:
You're so woke that you get sexism more than Hedo... who's actually a woman. You probably understand racism better than MLK did too, that's how impressive you are.ecdanc said:
Just stopmrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.
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Why are you assuming that only women would vote for someone because they’re a woman?hedonist said:
Actually, his further response validated my question.ecdanc said:
You’re willfully misreading SC’s posts even after he clarified. Or you are struggling with reading again. .mrussel1 said:
You're so woke that you get sexism more than Hedo... who's actually a woman. You probably understand racism better than MLK did too, that's how impressive you are.ecdanc said:
Just stopmrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.
Why would I vote for anyone based solely (or even mostly) on what lies between their legs?0 -
Oh yeah that’d be bad no matter the candidate. Like if Pete has a plurality but they have the nomination to Bloomberg. But I think most likely brokered-convention scenario see Sanders showing up with the most delegates. A lot depends on if anyone drops out before Super Tuesday, and who drops out afterward as far as forecasting this thing.dignin said:I agree, brokered convention isn't ideal. It would be worse if they don't nominate the candidate with the most delegates, especially if it's Bernie. The Bro's would go ballistic and hello Trump for 4 more years.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Keep strugglingmrussel1 said:
You're struggling with social skills as usual. But I don't see any clarification that cleans it up. Hedo thanking me shows me the same.ecdanc said:
You’re willfully misreading SC’s posts even after he clarified. Or you are struggling with reading again. .mrussel1 said:
You're so woke that you get sexism more than Hedo... who's actually a woman. You probably understand racism better than MLK did too, that's how impressive you are.ecdanc said:
Just stopmrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.
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When did I say that?mrussel1 said:
That's kind of sexist, to believe that women vote primarily on gender.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Based on the candidates (Amy and Warren) being women.hedonist said:
Above, bolded. I don't think I misread your comment, but apologies if I did.Spiritual_Chaos said:
When did I say that?hedonist said:
What? Because women wouldn’t be capable of choosing their candidate regardless of gender?Spiritual_Chaos said:
From what I've seen, many vote based on personality, the candidate and other factors. So the whole "the moderate block" is bigger isn't completely failsafe.Lerxst1992 said:The problem is four candidates are similar to Amy and two similar to Bernie. Even if far fewer vote “socialist” Bernie wants to change the rules so he wins based on that simple math.
E.g. Saw somewhere that Warrens lost voters went to Buttagieg more than Bernie. And many Biden voters having Bernie as their second choice etc.
I would also guess many Amy voters and many Liz voters would go to eachother, based on them being women.
Sounds like you are the one being sexist now tbh(?)"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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