The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • Posts: 31,038
    ecdanc said:
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    To answer the question, you have to be able to put yourself in the position to make the decision.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Posts: 31,038
    To answer the question, you have to be able to put yourself in the position to make the decision.
    Come again?
  • Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
  • Posts: 31,038
    ecdanc said:
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 
  • Posts: 8,556
    mrussel1 said:
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
  • Posts: 1,814

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.

  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    ecdanc said:

    Who is the other one?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Posts: 13,576
    Who is the other one?
    Sherrod Brown?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Posts: 1,814
    Who is the other one?
    Certainly not me. 
  • Posts: 13,576

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
    Where does this notion come from?  
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Posts: 1,814
    rgambs said:
    Where does this notion come from?  
    Me! It comes from me!
  • Posts: 1,469
    Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
    Charlottesville 2013
    Hampton 2016

  • Posts: 10,703
    Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
    Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination. 
  • Posts: 31,038

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
    I feel it too.  
  • Posts: 8,556
    rgambs said:
    Where does this notion come from?  

    Bernies plan, word for word:
    Create a Medicare for All, single-payer, national health insurance program.

    so what happens with all the other insurance companies?
    im ok with it, I  but don’t think 270 electors would be.
  • Posts: 8,556
    pjl44 said:
    Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination. 

    Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.

    democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.

    The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
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    Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.

    democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.

    The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.

    You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.

    Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.
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    Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.

    democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.

    The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
    Crime occurs where you put the cops. 
  • Posts: 31,038
    ecdanc said:
    Crime occurs where you put the cops. 
    Sure, socioeconomic conditions are irrelevant.  In fact, before there was such a thing as a police force, it was like Eden.  
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