The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    To answer the question, you have to be able to put yourself in the position to make the decision.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    To answer the question, you have to be able to put yourself in the position to make the decision.
    Come again?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.

    Who is the other one?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.

    Who is the other one?
    Sherrod Brown?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.

    Who is the other one?
    Certainly not me. 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
    Where does this notion come from?  
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
    Where does this notion come from?  
    Me! It comes from me!
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
    Charlottesville 2013
    Hampton 2016

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
    Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
    I feel it too.  
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    rgambs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

    Pete offers a choice, as does Biden. I don't have to make that decision.  
    And if you did?
    That's the beauty of policy.  There's almost always a third, fourth,  or fifth way. 

    Not to the Bernie gang. They’d rather run on no choice and watch the Supreme Court go conservative for the next fifty years.

    democrats are in the middle of the dumbest policy debate right now. Do we give everybody the option of Medicare or ram it down their throats with socialism, while the gop is galvanizing their base with the Court motivating them to show up.

    which leads us to the bigger picture, we risk this election with socialism, the court that ends up as a result of this loss would never allow the govt to seize the assets of all the insurance companies and allow a full mandate until at least 2112. Hell, the current court might strike down the Obamacare mandate, let alone forced socialism.

    Bernie is on a collision course to decimate our party and country. I definitely feel the burn.
    Where does this notion come from?  

    Bernies plan, word for word:
    Create a Medicare for All, single-payer, national health insurance program.

    so what happens with all the other insurance companies?
    im ok with it, I  but don’t think 270 electors would be.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    pjl44 said:
    Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
    Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination. 

    Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.

    democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.

    The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    pjl44 said:
    Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
    Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination. 

    Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.

    democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.

    The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.

    You're definitely preaching to the choir on campaign spending. He's not doing anything illegal but it's obnoxious to watch and one more reason for me to not like the guy.

    Stop and frisk is a big part of it for me. And his deference to China and wrangling a third term. If you look at his record, it's easy to see how he was a Republican. I'm surprised how much he's being embraced.
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    pjl44 said:
    Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
    Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination. 

    Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.

    democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.

    The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
    Crime occurs where you put the cops. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    pjl44 said:
    Without reading through all posts, what are thoughts on Bloomberg?
    Would be pretty low on my list. Authoritarian who's trying to buy the nomination. 

    Until we pass a constitutional amendment limiting campaign spending, this is our system.

    democrats can either play this game or watch from the sidelines.

    The majority of New York is low crime. High crime does exist but is centered in very specific neighborhoods. You need to put the cops where the crime occurs. Unfortunately Bloomberg made disparaging comments about alleged criminals and focused his comments towards race instead of location. But in no way did I support stop and frisk. It went too far.
    Crime occurs where you put the cops. 
    Sure, socioeconomic conditions are irrelevant.  In fact, before there was such a thing as a police force, it was like Eden.  
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