The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    dignin said:


    I don't think this is right, but it's funny.
    I gotta admit.  I don't agree at all with the tweet, but I do agree it's pretty funny.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    So, is Biden just getting started or is he on the way out?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, is Biden just getting started or is he on the way out?
    Both?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    Lerxst1992 said:
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    So pointing out that some union members have health coverage, for which they have fought as an benefit of their employment, is now offensive to those union members who don't have health coverage? Particularly as Buttigieg himself pointed out that they "fought hard", and yet she argue against this by saying that they "had to fight like hell". 

    I fail to see how that makes sense. Perhaps some context is lost in the snippet of the tweet that you've posted. 
    You might want to put a little more emphasis on her last sentence. 
    Where is the evidence that Buttigieg has caused an injury with his tweet?
    You're asking the communist that?
    It would be better for Nelson to answer that, but sure, do your anarchic best.
    You can find her on Twitter.

    For me, the answer is simple: the very existence of (any) healthcare for profit is an injury to many. 
    1) I’m not on twitter

    2) Sure, but tangential to what he said in the tweet. 
    1) Well, I'm not going to speak for her, so......

    2) You have a weird definition of "tangent." 
    Nelson herself isn't objecting to for profit health care, she (appears to be) objecting to the fact that not all union members have it, and claiming that Buttigieg said they did, which he did not. 
    You asked me a question; I responded. You then accused my answer of being tangential to Buttigieg's tweet. So, this entire post is a complete non sequitur. 

    I guess that's the sort of answer we get from an anarchist :lol:
    Or someone who can read. 
    I thought you SJW didn’t look down your noses at the rest of us?
    I'm beginning to think the penultimate line of your signature isn't accurate. 
    Yet another deflection. Congratulations 
    How am I supposed to respond to your name-calling?
    It was you who accused some of us of not being able to read and what name did I call you?
    You called me an SJW--that's a pejorative term. 

    Unless Steven Wilson's middle initial is J.

    Then its the ultimate complement.
    Bernie: Heartattack In A Layby
    Biden: Lazarus 
    Pete: A Smart Kid
    Warren: Cheating The Polygraph
    Yang: Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled 
    Tulsi: Russia On Ice
    Klobuchar: Don't Hate Me
    Bloomberg: Four Chords That Made A Million
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, is Biden just getting started or is he on the way out?
    Both?
    Like Eminem?


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:




    phony.
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,399
    pjl44 said:
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    oftenreading said:
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    So pointing out that some union members have health coverage, for which they have fought as an benefit of their employment, is now offensive to those union members who don't have health coverage? Particularly as Buttigieg himself pointed out that they "fought hard", and yet she argue against this by saying that they "had to fight like hell". 

    I fail to see how that makes sense. Perhaps some context is lost in the snippet of the tweet that you've posted. 
    You might want to put a little more emphasis on her last sentence. 
    Where is the evidence that Buttigieg has caused an injury with his tweet?
    You're asking the communist that?
    It would be better for Nelson to answer that, but sure, do your anarchic best.
    You can find her on Twitter.

    For me, the answer is simple: the very existence of (any) healthcare for profit is an injury to many. 
    1) I’m not on twitter

    2) Sure, but tangential to what he said in the tweet. 
    1) Well, I'm not going to speak for her, so......

    2) You have a weird definition of "tangent." 
    Nelson herself isn't objecting to for profit health care, she (appears to be) objecting to the fact that not all union members have it, and claiming that Buttigieg said they did, which he did not. 
    You asked me a question; I responded. You then accused my answer of being tangential to Buttigieg's tweet. So, this entire post is a complete non sequitur. 

    I guess that's the sort of answer we get from an anarchist :lol:
    Or someone who can read. 
    I thought you SJW didn’t look down your noses at the rest of us?
    I'm beginning to think the penultimate line of your signature isn't accurate. 
    Yet another deflection. Congratulations 
    How am I supposed to respond to your name-calling?
    It was you who accused some of us of not being able to read and what name did I call you?
    You called me an SJW--that's a pejorative term. 

    Unless Steven Wilson's middle initial is J.

    Then its the ultimate complement.
    Bernie: Heartattack In A Layby
    Biden: Lazarus 
    Pete: A Smart Kid
    Warren: Cheating The Polygraph
    Yang: Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled 
    Tulsi: Russia On Ice
    Klobuchar: Don't Hate Me
    Bloomberg: Four Chords That Made A Million

    Fan!
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,399
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:




    phony.
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:




    phony.
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,984
    If we put them all in Thunderdome, who would emerge victorious? 
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited February 2020
    Kat said:
    If we put them all in Thunderdome, who would emerge victorious? 
    Amy

    (Listened to the Tina Turner song from the movie today in the car from Norway to Sweden. What are the odds)

    https://youtu.be/NVPq-_t-ANw
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Kat said:
    If we put them all in Thunderdome, who would emerge victorious? 
    Amy

    (Listened to the Tina Turner song from the movie today in the car from Norway to Sweden. What are the odds)

    https://youtu.be/NVPq-_t-ANw
    I heard "It's only Love" from Bryan Adams and Tina Turner on Classic Rewind this morning.  First time  I've heard that song in 25 years, easy.  And I still remembered the lyrics.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    mrussel1 said:

    First time  I've heard that song in 25 years, easy.  And I still remembered the lyrics.  
    My colleague Ida said the same thing, when it was my turn to pick the music and I put on this in the car:

    https://youtu.be/yeSJ2YdhG5k
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Kat said:
    If we put them all in Thunderdome, who would emerge victorious? 
    I don't know. Who's the raggediest man? Bernie?

    Donald Trump is probably the presidential candidate with the most in common with Mel Gibson. Maybe Bloomberg or Biden or Mayor Pete after that?

    Fury Road would be Warren, yes?
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    Kat said:
    If we put them all in Thunderdome, who would emerge victorious? 
    Klobuchar and it's not close. She would stand over the bodies and victoriously eat a salad with a comb.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    pjl44 said:
    Kat said:
    If we put them all in Thunderdome, who would emerge victorious? 
    Klobuchar and it's not close. She would stand over the bodies and victoriously eat a salad with a comb.
    IT'S

    KLOBBERING

    TIME!

    (I had forgotten about the comb story. Haha.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Kat said:
    If we put them all in Thunderdome, who would emerge victorious? 
    Klobuchar and it's not close. She would stand over the bodies and victoriously eat a salad with a comb.
    IT'S

    KLOBBERING

    TIME!

    (I had forgotten about the comb story. Haha.
    There are some great ones. Reported and unreported!
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    Lerxst1992 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    ecdanc said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    ecdanc said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    ecdanc said:
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    So pointing out that some union members have health coverage, for which they have fought as an benefit of their employment, is now offensive to those union members who don't have health coverage? Particularly as Buttigieg himself pointed out that they "fought hard", and yet she argue against this by saying that they "had to fight like hell". 

    I fail to see how that makes sense. Perhaps some context is lost in the snippet of the tweet that you've posted. 
    You might want to put a little more emphasis on her last sentence. 
    Where is the evidence that Buttigieg has caused an injury with his tweet?
    You're asking the communist that?
    It would be better for Nelson to answer that, but sure, do your anarchic best.
    You can find her on Twitter.

    For me, the answer is simple: the very existence of (any) healthcare for profit is an injury to many. 
    1) I’m not on twitter

    2) Sure, but tangential to what he said in the tweet. 
    1) Well, I'm not going to speak for her, so......

    2) You have a weird definition of "tangent." 
    Nelson herself isn't objecting to for profit health care, she (appears to be) objecting to the fact that not all union members have it, and claiming that Buttigieg said they did, which he did not. 
    You asked me a question; I responded. You then accused my answer of being tangential to Buttigieg's tweet. So, this entire post is a complete non sequitur. 

    I guess that's the sort of answer we get from an anarchist :lol:
    Or someone who can read. 
    I thought you SJW didn’t look down your noses at the rest of us?
    I'm beginning to think the penultimate line of your signature isn't accurate. 
    Yet another deflection. Congratulations 
    How am I supposed to respond to your name-calling?
    It was you who accused some of us of not being able to read and what name did I call you?
    You called me an SJW--that's a pejorative term. 

    Unless Steven Wilson's middle initial is J.

    Then its the ultimate complement.
    Bernie: Heartattack In A Layby
    Biden: Lazarus 
    Pete: A Smart Kid
    Warren: Cheating The Polygraph
    Yang: Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled 
    Tulsi: Russia On Ice
    Klobuchar: Don't Hate Me
    Bloomberg: Four Chords That Made A Million

    Fan!

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:




    phony.
    Have you watched the debates?

    He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it.  He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option.  And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.  
    This is so rational and the argument I've made for quite a while.  If medicare offers comparable services at a better cost, it will choke out private insurance OR force private to lower its premiums.  It's a great strategy and proof of concept.  M4A presumes that every American prefers that gov't driven insurance.  I support choice.  

    Stuck between no choice Republicans and no choice democratic socialists.
    Exactly.. it's very frustrating.. and when a candidate like Pete offers a real choice for us, he gets smeared from the left because Bernie and his crew knows what's best for me.  I can't be trusted to make such an important decision for my family.  
    Would you give up your choice if it meant everyone had healthcare?                        

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