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ecdanc said:
Or to paying attention to context.mickeyrat said:safe to say lots of words and terms have more than one meaning. I guess if one seems predisposed to being defensive.........which has its challenges in text form, without body language and tonal cues we get from in person conversation.so either take as good as you give ir take your ball and go home.frankly I prefer you take up the letter. 900 posts roughly in 3 weeks. 50-100 added something to the coversation......._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I don't know. I'm just saying when someone uses that term today, that's what I think they're saying. Mickeyrat laid out how it was complimentary in the time of Martin Luther King. Probably because he actually was a Social Justice WARRIOR. Dude died for his beliefs. That's different than some white liberal of today tweeting at Trump that he doesn't care about the LGBTQ community. Maybe the "hate-filled white supremist redneck fuckwards" are suggesting to those people to put their money where their mouth is, and try to make a real difference like an MLK, rather than talking a good game online and doing nothing else.dankind said:ecdanc said:
Because it is...dankind said:Why is SJW pejorative?
Seems more like it should be an honorific to me.
Seriously, what's wrong with fighting for social justice? If we think something is wrong with that, then why the fuck even bother with anything anymore?
Look the term’s history up. It’s meant to imply something other than being an actual supporter of social justice.
So now we're allowing hate-filled white supremacist redneck fuckwads to be our lexicographers? Awesome.Ledbetterman10 said:
I think "warrior" is supposed to be sarcastic in the term "Social Justice Warrior." "Social Justice Advocate" would be a more complimentary way of saying it.dankind said:Why is SJW pejorative?
Seems more like it should be an honorific to me.
Seriously, what's wrong with fighting for social justice? If we think something is wrong with that, then why the fuck even bother with anything anymore?
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I thought SJW got its re-invigoration after the Occupy Wall Street affair and that those who participated were proud of the "label" or "description" or "name?" My, how times have changed. And all because the likes of Rushbo use it in a sneering tone.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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copied from urban dictionary.....Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't know. I'm just saying when someone uses that term today, that's what I think they're saying. Mickeyrat laid out how it was complimentary in the time of Martin Luther King. Probably because he actually was a Social Justice WARRIOR. Dude died for his beliefs. That's different than some white liberal of today tweeting at Trump that he doesn't care about the LGBTQ community. Maybe the "hate-filled white supremist redneck fuckwards" are suggesting to those people to put their money where their mouth is, and try to make a real difference like an MLK, rather than talking a good game online and doing nothing else.dankind said:ecdanc said:
Because it is...dankind said:Why is SJW pejorative?
Seems more like it should be an honorific to me.
Seriously, what's wrong with fighting for social justice? If we think something is wrong with that, then why the fuck even bother with anything anymore?
Look the term’s history up. It’s meant to imply something other than being an actual supporter of social justice.
So now we're allowing hate-filled white supremacist redneck fuckwads to be our lexicographers? Awesome.Ledbetterman10 said:
I think "warrior" is supposed to be sarcastic in the term "Social Justice Warrior." "Social Justice Advocate" would be a more complimentary way of saying it.dankind said:Why is SJW pejorative?
Seems more like it should be an honorific to me.
Seriously, what's wrong with fighting for social justice? If we think something is wrong with that, then why the fuck even bother with anything anymore?
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Oh, you were complimenting me?Halifax2TheMax said:I thought SJW got its re-invigoration after the Occupy Wall Street affair and that those who participated were proud of the "label" or "description" or "name?" My, how times have changed. And all because the likes of Rushbo use it in a sneering tone.0 -
You got a full chart of post-to-contribution rates? You’re like the board sabermetrics guy?mickeyrat said:ecdanc said:
Or to paying attention to context.mickeyrat said:safe to say lots of words and terms have more than one meaning. I guess if one seems predisposed to being defensive.........which has its challenges in text form, without body language and tonal cues we get from in person conversation.so either take as good as you give ir take your ball and go home.frankly I prefer you take up the letter. 900 posts roughly in 3 weeks. 50-100 added something to the coversation.......0 -
Yea, like you were comparing me to nazis is a compliment. I don't consider calling someone a SJW calling them a name or as having a negative connotation but that's just me.ecdanc said:
Oh, you were complimenting me?Halifax2TheMax said:I thought SJW got its re-invigoration after the Occupy Wall Street affair and that those who participated were proud of the "label" or "description" or "name?" My, how times have changed. And all because the likes of Rushbo use it in a sneering tone.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I’m skeptical, but thanks, I guess.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yea, like you were comparing me to nazis is a compliment. I don't consider calling someone a SJW calling them a name or as having a negative connotation but that's just me.ecdanc said:
Oh, you were complimenting me?Halifax2TheMax said:I thought SJW got its re-invigoration after the Occupy Wall Street affair and that those who participated were proud of the "label" or "description" or "name?" My, how times have changed. And all because the likes of Rushbo use it in a sneering tone.0 -
ecdanc said:
Or someone who can read.oftenreading said:ecdanc said:
You asked me a question; I responded. You then accused my answer of being tangential to Buttigieg's tweet. So, this entire post is a complete non sequitur.oftenreading said:
Nelson herself isn't objecting to for profit health care, she (appears to be) objecting to the fact that not all union members have it, and claiming that Buttigieg said they did, which he did not.ecdanc said:
1) Well, I'm not going to speak for her, so......oftenreading said:
1) I’m not on twitterecdanc said:
You can find her on Twitter.oftenreading said:
It would be better for Nelson to answer that, but sure, do your anarchic best.ecdanc said:
You're asking the communist that?oftenreading said:
Where is the evidence that Buttigieg has caused an injury with his tweet?ecdanc said:
You might want to put a little more emphasis on her last sentence.oftenreading said:ecdanc said:
So pointing out that some union members have health coverage, for which they have fought as an benefit of their employment, is now offensive to those union members who don't have health coverage? Particularly as Buttigieg himself pointed out that they "fought hard", and yet she argue against this by saying that they "had to fight like hell".
I fail to see how that makes sense. Perhaps some context is lost in the snippet of the tweet that you've posted.
For me, the answer is simple: the very existence of (any) healthcare for profit is an injury to many.
2) Sure, but tangential to what he said in the tweet.
2) You have a weird definition of "tangent."
I guess that's the sort of answer we get from an anarchist
It's certainly true that I would not expect to get any sort of written answer from someone who could not read.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
🤣oftenreading said:ecdanc said:
Or someone who can read.oftenreading said:ecdanc said:
You asked me a question; I responded. You then accused my answer of being tangential to Buttigieg's tweet. So, this entire post is a complete non sequitur.oftenreading said:
Nelson herself isn't objecting to for profit health care, she (appears to be) objecting to the fact that not all union members have it, and claiming that Buttigieg said they did, which he did not.ecdanc said:
1) Well, I'm not going to speak for her, so......oftenreading said:
1) I’m not on twitterecdanc said:
You can find her on Twitter.oftenreading said:
It would be better for Nelson to answer that, but sure, do your anarchic best.ecdanc said:
You're asking the communist that?oftenreading said:
Where is the evidence that Buttigieg has caused an injury with his tweet?ecdanc said:
You might want to put a little more emphasis on her last sentence.oftenreading said:ecdanc said:
So pointing out that some union members have health coverage, for which they have fought as an benefit of their employment, is now offensive to those union members who don't have health coverage? Particularly as Buttigieg himself pointed out that they "fought hard", and yet she argue against this by saying that they "had to fight like hell".
I fail to see how that makes sense. Perhaps some context is lost in the snippet of the tweet that you've posted.
For me, the answer is simple: the very existence of (any) healthcare for profit is an injury to many.
2) Sure, but tangential to what he said in the tweet.
2) You have a weird definition of "tangent."
I guess that's the sort of answer we get from an anarchist
It's certainly true that I would not expect to get any sort of written answer from someone who could not read.0 -
I don't think this is right, but it's funny.0 -
phony."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
ecdanc said:
You called me an SJW--that's a pejorative term.Halifax2TheMax said:
It was you who accused some of us of not being able to read and what name did I call you?ecdanc said:
How am I supposed to respond to your name-calling?Halifax2TheMax said:
Yet another deflection. Congratulationsecdanc said:
I'm beginning to think the penultimate line of your signature isn't accurate.Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought you SJW didn’t look down your noses at the rest of us?ecdanc said:
Or someone who can read.oftenreading said:ecdanc said:
You asked me a question; I responded. You then accused my answer of being tangential to Buttigieg's tweet. So, this entire post is a complete non sequitur.oftenreading said:
Nelson herself isn't objecting to for profit health care, she (appears to be) objecting to the fact that not all union members have it, and claiming that Buttigieg said they did, which he did not.ecdanc said:
1) Well, I'm not going to speak for her, so......oftenreading said:
1) I’m not on twitterecdanc said:
You can find her on Twitter.oftenreading said:
It would be better for Nelson to answer that, but sure, do your anarchic best.ecdanc said:
You're asking the communist that?oftenreading said:
Where is the evidence that Buttigieg has caused an injury with his tweet?ecdanc said:
You might want to put a little more emphasis on her last sentence.oftenreading said:ecdanc said:
So pointing out that some union members have health coverage, for which they have fought as an benefit of their employment, is now offensive to those union members who don't have health coverage? Particularly as Buttigieg himself pointed out that they "fought hard", and yet she argue against this by saying that they "had to fight like hell".
I fail to see how that makes sense. Perhaps some context is lost in the snippet of the tweet that you've posted.
For me, the answer is simple: the very existence of (any) healthcare for profit is an injury to many.
2) Sure, but tangential to what he said in the tweet.
2) You have a weird definition of "tangent."
I guess that's the sort of answer we get from an anarchist
Unless Steven Wilson's middle initial is J.
Then its the ultimate complement.0 -
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Throw in Bloomberg and it's a route.Spiritual_Chaos said:0 -
Where to?mrussel1 said:
Throw in Bloomberg and it's a route.Spiritual_Chaos said:0 -
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Have you watched the debates?Spiritual_Chaos said:
He has said he thinks it's the best option...but...not everyone wants it AND Bernie can;t pay for it. He said in the last debate that a medicare for all who want it plan would first and foremost ensure everyone has coverage (which is the important part no?) and create the public option. And if it's as good as bernie says and he thinks, people will choose it over time.hippiemom = goodness0 -
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