The Democratic Presidential Debates
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1. No, I would argue it isn't fair. She followed the law, yet he positioned it as "exploited" "skirt legal limits". These are all loaded terms.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Well if she did, then the criticism is fair(?)mrussel1 said:
Seriously? There's quotes all over the article like this one... and this is just one article. Sanders is not contrasting himself on the policy front with Clinton. This is what you do in the primary. You split some hairs, say you're better in the general, but hey...we're all on the same team. But not Sanders.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Where is the character assasination from Bernie in this article?mrussel1 said:
You don't remember the character assassination against Hillary by his supporters, at his rallies? It was bad. Here's an article from May '16. You can see the striking similarities to Trump's campaign, seeking to de-legitimize the opponent and the process.Ledbetterman10 said:
He didn't seem like this in 2016. Or am I just remembering wrong?mrussel1 said:
This is the very thing we were discussing earlier. Bernie doesn't seek to win on the merits of his position, he seeks to denigrate and disparage his opponents' motives. This is why his supporters are Bernie or Bust, because Bernie himself damages the opponent who is basically on his team.Spiritual_Chaos said:CAMPAIGN 2020: BERNIE SANDERS rips PETE BUTTIGIEG ties to billionaires in fiery NEW HAMPSHIRE speech
THE HEAT IS ON!
Or maybe after having the DNC against him in 2016 (and by some accounts, against him now as well), he's just taken a "fuck it" attitude towards the other democrats. Sorta like Trump in 2016 against the GOP.
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-indiana-polls-attacks-2016-5
"Secretary Clinton has exploited the rules in ways that let her high-dollar donors like Alice Walton of Walmart fame and the actor George Clooney and his super-rich Hollywood friends skirt legal limits on campaign contributions," Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said.
2. Again, this is about what's right and proper during the primary season, where you need the party to coalesce at the end of the primary season. Bernie seeks to damage his opponent. You simply don't do that if you want to win in the general.0 -
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Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.0 -
I get it but it seems some want to burn it all down.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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I know you do.. I was adding on to your reply, not contrasting it.Halifax2TheMax said:
I get it but it seems some want to burn it all down.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.0 -
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.0 -
This page has a super-cool graphic where you can see how the recent polling has Pete pulling from Biden and then from undecided voters to pull into a dead heat with Bernie. I think Warren is on life support. If she can't win in IA and NH, where does she win? Anyway, check it out. Hopefully it works on a phone.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02/07/metro/pete-buttiegieg-continues-surge-nh-polling/
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I think Bernie and Bidens fear of Pete will push him even further into the spotlight. And Pete will act and look like the winner after tonights debate. He will also seriously threaten Bernie in NH. Bernie will underperform, and Pete overperform.
The dream of Bernie and the decency of social democracy is over."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
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I'm willing to give it a gomcgruff10 said:
@kat I feel like we could really come together as a group if we all sat next to each other at the Apollo Show. Anyway to hook us up with some tickets?Kat said:Two threads now and I can't stop laughing. You guys are crackin' me up today.
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I feel like you kind of overreact as a general rule.Spiritual_Chaos said:I think Bernie and Bidens fear of Pete will push him even further into the spotlight. And Pete will act and look like the winner after tonights debate. He will also seriously threaten Bernie in NH. Bernie will underperform, and Pete overperform.
The dream of Bernie and the decency of social democracy is over.0 -
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good. 09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Pete is a lifelong Independent?mrussel1 said:
This is the very thing we were discussing earlier. Bernie doesn't seek to win on the merits of his position, he seeks to denigrate and disparage his opponents' motives. This is why his supporters are Bernie or Bust, because Bernie himself damages the opponent who is basically on his team.Spiritual_Chaos saidCAMPAIGN 2020: BERNIE SANDERS rips PETE BUTTIGIEG ties to billionaires in fiery NEW HAMPSHIRE speech
THE HEAT IS ON!
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Well..every four years...mickeyrat said:
Pete is a lifelong Independent?mrussel1 said:
This is the very thing we were discussing earlier. Bernie doesn't seek to win on the merits of his position, he seeks to denigrate and disparage his opponents' motives. This is why his supporters are Bernie or Bust, because Bernie himself damages the opponent who is basically on his team.Spiritual_Chaos saidCAMPAIGN 2020: BERNIE SANDERS rips PETE BUTTIGIEG ties to billionaires in fiery NEW HAMPSHIRE speech
THE HEAT IS ON!0 -
I'm going to research like a mo fo and on Monday have a full 84 minute lesson on the positive and negatives aspects of anarcho-communism. My 6th graders are going to be pumped!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mcgruff10 said:
I'm going to research like a mo fo and on Monday have a full 84 minute lesson on the positive and negatives aspects of anarcho-communism. My 6th graders are going to be pumped!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.and you would subject them to the torturous ramblings we endure here?gonna have to find a way to play them Another Brick in the Wall....
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I learned something very sad recently when I was watching Roger Waters Wall performance from 2014. Everyone knows his father died in the war when Roger was an infant. But his grandfather died in France during WWI when Roger's father was an infant. That is incredibly sad. Anyway, carry on.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
I'm going to research like a mo fo and on Monday have a full 84 minute lesson on the positive and negatives aspects of anarcho-communism. My 6th graders are going to be pumped!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.and you would subject them to the torturous ramblings we endure here?gonna have to find a way to play them Another Brick in the Wall....0 -
If this were four years ago, you'd get some very angry parents (if you stated any positives, that is)...maybe even fired? Now...possibly executed.mcgruff10 said:
I'm going to research like a mo fo and on Monday have a full 84 minute lesson on the positive and negatives aspects of anarcho-communism. My 6th graders are going to be pumped!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine 2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin 2024 Napa, Wrigley, Wrigley 2025 Nashville (II)0 -
It is so sad because our department agreed to not even talk politics anymore. It just isn’t worth it. I show ten minutes of the news everyday and that is it.OnWis97 said:
If this were four years ago, you'd get some very angry parents (if you stated any positives, that is)...maybe even fired? Now...possibly executed.mcgruff10 said:
I'm going to research like a mo fo and on Monday have a full 84 minute lesson on the positive and negatives aspects of anarcho-communism. My 6th graders are going to be pumped!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
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mcgruff10 said:
It is so sad because our department agreed to not even talk politics anymore. It just isn’t worth it. I show ten minutes of the news everyday and that is it.OnWis97 said:
If this were four years ago, you'd get some very angry parents (if you stated any positives, that is)...maybe even fired? Now...possibly executed.mcgruff10 said:
I'm going to research like a mo fo and on Monday have a full 84 minute lesson on the positive and negatives aspects of anarcho-communism. My 6th graders are going to be pumped!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.domestic news only or world events as well?what sources do you use? just curious._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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