The Democratic Presidential Debates
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Really? Did you learn that from my article on the topic? Jesus.mrussel1 said:
Emma Goldman. She was part of that plot.ecdanc said:
Which woman?mrussel1 said:
Honestly, how do you idolize that woman?ecdanc said:
Tell them about Alexander Berkman trying to kill Henry Clay Frick. It’s a great story!mcgruff10 said:
Lots of drool on the desks after they fall asleep.ecdanc said:
*drool*mcgruff10 said:
I'm going to research like a mo fo and on Monday have a full 84 minute lesson on the positive and negatives aspects of anarcho-communism. My 6th graders are going to be pumped!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
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No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.0 -
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.0 -
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.0 -
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
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You make historical judgments based on the concepts of the time, not today's. Slavery wasn't outlawed in any western country before the turn of the 19th century, so it's improper to use that as a bar.ecdanc said:
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
I fear you're a one trick pony.0 -
No I don’t. You might want to sit in on my class on Huck Finn sometime.mrussel1 said:
You make historical judgments based on the concepts of the time, not today's. Slavery wasn't outlawed in any western country before the turn of the 19th century, so it's improper to use that as a bar.ecdanc said:
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
I fear you're a one trick pony.0 -
You're not an historianecdanc said:
No I don’t. You might want to sit in on my class on Huck Finn sometime.mrussel1 said:
You make historical judgments based on the concepts of the time, not today's. Slavery wasn't outlawed in any western country before the turn of the 19th century, so it's improper to use that as a bar.ecdanc said:
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
I fear you're a one trick pony.0 -
I’m a helluva lot closer than you are.mrussel1 said:
You're not an historianecdanc said:
No I don’t. You might want to sit in on my class on Huck Finn sometime.mrussel1 said:
You make historical judgments based on the concepts of the time, not today's. Slavery wasn't outlawed in any western country before the turn of the 19th century, so it's improper to use that as a bar.ecdanc said:
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
I fear you're a one trick pony.0 -
Considering that concept is foreign to you, I doubt that.ecdanc said:
I’m a helluva lot closer than you are.mrussel1 said:
You're not an historianecdanc said:
No I don’t. You might want to sit in on my class on Huck Finn sometime.mrussel1 said:
You make historical judgments based on the concepts of the time, not today's. Slavery wasn't outlawed in any western country before the turn of the 19th century, so it's improper to use that as a bar.ecdanc said:
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
I fear you're a one trick pony.
But sure, I guess you would argue that Washington DC should be renamed because the Fathers didn't bestow suffrage on women who identify as men. Under your mindset, they should be admonished. For an historian, that's silliness.0 -
I don’t think you know much about historians, so here’s one for you to check out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinnmrussel1 said:
Considering that concept is foreign to you, I doubt that.ecdanc said:
I’m a helluva lot closer than you are.mrussel1 said:
You're not an historianecdanc said:
No I don’t. You might want to sit in on my class on Huck Finn sometime.mrussel1 said:
You make historical judgments based on the concepts of the time, not today's. Slavery wasn't outlawed in any western country before the turn of the 19th century, so it's improper to use that as a bar.ecdanc said:
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
I fear you're a one trick pony.
But sure, I guess you would argue that Washington DC should be renamed because the Fathers didn't bestow suffrage on women who identify as men. Under your mindset, they should be admonished. For an historian, that's silliness.
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Everyone knows Zinn. And I've seen Ed's guitar just like you. Want me to send you Goldhagens publishing page randomly too?ecdanc said:
I don’t think you know much about historians, so here’s one for you to check out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinnmrussel1 said:
Considering that concept is foreign to you, I doubt that.ecdanc said:
I’m a helluva lot closer than you are.mrussel1 said:
You're not an historianecdanc said:
No I don’t. You might want to sit in on my class on Huck Finn sometime.mrussel1 said:
You make historical judgments based on the concepts of the time, not today's. Slavery wasn't outlawed in any western country before the turn of the 19th century, so it's improper to use that as a bar.ecdanc said:
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
I fear you're a one trick pony.
But sure, I guess you would argue that Washington DC should be renamed because the Fathers didn't bestow suffrage on women who identify as men. Under your mindset, they should be admonished. For an historian, that's silliness.0 -
My 7th graders love CNN10. It's one of the rare 10-minute stretches during the day that they're completely quiet and attentive. I show it during advisory in the morning and they react appropriately with good questions when they don't understand something.mcgruff10 said:
Both. https://www.cnn.com/cnn10domestic news only or world events as well?what sources do you use? just curious.
Just objective news, no bias.0 -
Come on kat, a communist, a teacher and a financial guy walk into the Apollo theatre together.....I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Actually I don’t get the reference to Ed’s guitar (send me over to be pilloried on the “real fan” threads on The Porch). I taught Zinn’s work years and years ago. I thought you might know Zinn which makes him a good choice for countering your absurd suggestion that historians don’t admonish.mrussel1 said:
Considering that concept is foreign to you, I doubt that.ecdanc said:
I’m a helluva lot closer than you are.mrussel1 said:
You're not an historianecdanc said:
No I don’t. You might want to sit in on my class on Huck Finn sometime.mrussel1 said:
You make historical judgments based on the concepts of the time, not today's. Slavery wasn't outlawed in any western country before the turn of the 19th century, so it's improper to use that as a bar.ecdanc said:
No it’s P&L I don’t understand, remember?mrussel1 said:
You clearly don't understand the concept.ecdanc said:
Poorly.mrussel1 said:
No im applying historical perspective.ecdanc said:
Your defense is “they weren’t trying to help those other people?” Interesting approachmrussel1 said:
Yes considering the concept was about religious and voting minorities.ecdanc said:
Am I wrong?mrussel1 said:
You think you're clever but it comes off more like a lame joke.ecdanc said:
Good thing minorities had it so well in the 1780s.mrussel1 said:
The Bill of Rights was designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. That's straight from the Federalist Papers and Montesquieu.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
I fear you're a one trick pony.
But sure, I guess you would argue that Washington DC should be renamed because the Fathers didn't bestow suffrage on women who identify as men. Under your mindset, they should be admonished. For an historian, that's silliness.
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Noecdanc said:
Do you mean to imply democracy is perfect in theory?Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
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OkHalifax2TheMax said:
Noecdanc said:
Do you mean to imply democracy is perfect in theory?Halifax2TheMax said:
Can you name one perfect political system for a society, including the anarcho-communism, that’s perfect in practice?ecdanc said:
So, no. 😎Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes. Is it perfect? No.ecdanc said:
Can you?Halifax2TheMax said:
And therein lies the everlasting challenge of democracy, how do you have majority rule while protecting the rights of the minority?OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
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Bernie's just jealous he got outhustled in Iowa by the young whippasnappa who needs to more patiently wait his turn and respect his elders.Spiritual_Chaos said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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