The Democratic Presidential Debates
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They’re even going to your Pearl Jam concerts!oftenreading said:Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
"The anarcho-communists you will always have with you".
But in pretty small numbers.
I don't think that alone is any indication of what level of fucked the country is
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Don’t be pompous, just because I teach doesn’t mean I know everything. So there are no rules on your farm?ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I'm trying to find some common footing and the only point you focus on is the one that allows you to bickerecdanc said:
As were the votes that allow billionaires to exist, eh?pjl44 said:I can understand voting as violence in some circumstances. For example, "Should we take every dollar away from billionaires?" put to a popular vote. It passes and the federal government drains every billionaire and dumps that money into their coffers. That is violence.0 -
That’s fair. I apologizemcgruff10 said:
Don’t be pompous, just because I teach doesn’t mean I know everything. So there are no rules on your farm?ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.0 -
mcgruff10 said:
bs stands for bull shit.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What is the bs?mcgruff10 said:
If you dislike Biden that site is awesome but again it is bs just like the Pete website.ecdanc said:
Beside the point, but that site is awesome!mcgruff10 said:@ecdanc lots of filters at work but how about this: https://joebiden.info
I will continue to research.
Nah. I was thinking bad seats.0 -
In fairness, not many history teachers study something that was in place for about a week in a few Spanish provinces.ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Graham literally said "da fuck?" at this moment...0 -
Weird way to find common ground with a communist.pjl44 said:
I'm trying to find some common footing and the only point you focus on is the one that allows you to bickerecdanc said:
As were the votes that allow billionaires to exist, eh?pjl44 said:I can understand voting as violence in some circumstances. For example, "Should we take every dollar away from billionaires?" put to a popular vote. It passes and the federal government drains every billionaire and dumps that money into their coffers. That is violence.
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I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.
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Emma Goldman was a pretty big deal, but your point is grantedmrussel1 said:
In fairness, not many history teachers study something that was in place for about a week in a few Spanish provinces.ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Graham literally said "da fuck?" at this moment...0 -
Right. If you start by recognizing the horrible things majorities have done, it’s not hard to make the next step.OnWis97 said:
I'm not convinced "violence" is the right word...but I understand it.Halifax2TheMax said:Oh please. There’s get shot and killed in school as a second grader violence that equals I got screwed on my taxes because Team Trump Treason got elected violence? Voting = violence, this country is really fucked.
That said, if everything works well, majority rule doesn't always hold form. We didn't end slavery on a majority popular vote (it would have failed, particularly if the individual states had their own choice. One high-profile example that the right thing can be done despite a likely majority being against it. Admittedly it puts a lot of trust into people who have conflicts of interest between themselves and the public good.0 -
I hope we can agree that this scene from the Grail is just an all timer of a comedy scene.ecdanc said:
Emma Goldman was a pretty big deal, but your point is grantedmrussel1 said:
In fairness, not many history teachers study something that was in place for about a week in a few Spanish provinces.ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Graham literally said "da fuck?" at this moment...0 -
I 2nd the motion.mrussel1 said:
I hope we can agree that this scene from the Grail is just an all timer of a comedy scene.ecdanc said:
Emma Goldman was a pretty big deal, but your point is grantedmrussel1 said:
In fairness, not many history teachers study something that was in place for about a week in a few Spanish provinces.ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Graham literally said "da fuck?" at this moment...0 -
But Graham plays a tool in the film, does he not?mrussel1 said:
In fairness, not many history teachers study something that was in place for about a week in a few Spanish provinces.ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Graham literally said "da fuck?" at this moment..."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
pjl44 said:I can understand voting as violence in some circumstances. For example, "Should we take every dollar away from billionaires?" put to a popular vote. It passes and the federal government drains every billionaire and dumps that money into their coffers. That is violence.
Take that $ and reallocate to NYers struggling to find a spare $1500 for concert tix.
At least there's plenty of GNR tix available!0 -
On a long enough timeline, all threads collapse into one.Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:I can understand voting as violence in some circumstances. For example, "Should we take every dollar away from billionaires?" put to a popular vote. It passes and the federal government drains every billionaire and dumps that money into their coffers. That is violence.
Take that $ and reallocate to NYers struggling to find a spare $1500 for concert tix.
At least there's plenty of GNR tix available!
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Spiritual_Chaos said:
But Graham plays TooL in the film, does he not?mrussel1 said:
In fairness, not many history teachers study something that was in place for about a week in a few Spanish provinces.ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Graham literally said "da fuck?" at this moment...
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CAMPAIGN 2020: BERNIE SANDERS rips PETE BUTTIGIEG ties to billionaires in fiery NEW HAMPSHIRE speech
https://youtu.be/vrZlMRlzGlE
THE HEAT IS ON!"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Everyone is a tool in the movie, even "Tim".Spiritual_Chaos said:
But Graham plays a tool in the film, does he not?mrussel1 said:
In fairness, not many history teachers study something that was in place for about a week in a few Spanish provinces.ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Graham literally said "da fuck?" at this moment...0 -
This is the very thing we were discussing earlier. Bernie doesn't seek to win on the merits of his position, he seeks to denigrate and disparage his opponents' motives. This is why his supporters are Bernie or Bust, because Bernie himself damages the opponent who is basically on his team.Spiritual_Chaos said:CAMPAIGN 2020: BERNIE SANDERS rips PETE BUTTIGIEG ties to billionaires in fiery NEW HAMPSHIRE speech
THE HEAT IS ON!0 -
Okey. So him literally saying "da fuck" then doesn't really support your argument.mrussel1 said:
Everyone is a tool in the movie, even "Tim".Spiritual_Chaos said:
But Graham plays a tool in the film, does he not?mrussel1 said:
In fairness, not many history teachers study something that was in place for about a week in a few Spanish provinces.ecdanc said:
Don’t you teach history?mcgruff10 said:
Da fuck is anarcho communism? Is that like lord of the flies?ecdanc said:
See above: anarcho-communism.Ledbetterman10 said:
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?ecdanc said:
It's a hit at parties!Ledbetterman10 said:
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?ecdanc said:
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.OnWis97 said:
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.ecdanc said:
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Graham literally said "da fuck?" at this moment...
And it's been a long time since I've seen the film... hmm. I think it's on netflix.
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