The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • Posts: 1,814
    If Bernie is the nominee, it’s Rayguns and Carter all over. If Bernie isn’t the nominee, the Bernie bro’s stay home and stamp their feet and pout. Putin on the ritz wins either way.
    Bernie bros? Eyeroll. 
  • If Bernie is the nominee, it’s Rayguns and Carter all over. If Bernie isn’t the nominee, the Bernie bro’s stay home and stamp their feet and pout. Putin on the ritz wins either way.
    Bernie Bros didn't stay home for Hillary. So... why would they now, when they know what Trump actually brings?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Do you have a president or major party nominee that insisted on that policy? I'm not allowing obama because he caved on it ;-)
    Of course not. 
  • New Jersey Posts: 29,164
    If Bernie is the nominee, it’s Rayguns and Carter all over. If Bernie isn’t the nominee, the Bernie bro’s stay home and stamp their feet and pout. Putin on the ritz wins either way.
    This would be true.  Bernie could be the worst candidate ever if he does in fact win the dem nominee.  Who you rooting for these days halifax? Going Biden?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10 said:
    This would be true.  Bernie could be the worst candidate ever if he does in fact win the dem nominee.  Who you rooting for these days halifax? Going Biden?
    LOL
  • Posts: 16,951
    ecdanc said:
    Like reaching out to minority voters?
    Pandering to their base by blaming the ills on a boogeyman?  Yup.

    Look - we aren't going to agree on this.  And I'm not saying Bernie is as bad a person as trump.  Just that their campaigns seem to use a similar playbook and cause their supporters to behave in a similar manner (questioning the media, questioning vote results, talking of deep state conspiracies against their candidate, etc). 

    So, as someone who is not really a democrat by choice, I am very concerned about his nomination.  
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    ecdanc said:
    Well, that rules out Mayo Pete. 

    Pete is not intelligent nor charismatic? I'm impressed every time I see him interviewed.

    The base needs time to warm up to candidates. They want to know you and think you can win. They also need to have their right to vote protected to matter in the general.

     Pete's sweet spot is 2028 to 2040.

  • Yes. He was a revered politician until he got a little too frisky at the workplace and his wife got too involved in his line of work.
    I would guess in polls he is still very revered. He left office with record high approval numbers, didn't he?
    He is also a vegan. So he is on the right side of history in more aspects than loving the sound of a sax.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Pete is not intelligent nor charismatic? I'm impressed every time I see him interviewed.

    The base needs time to warm up to candidates. They want to know you and think you can win. They also need to have their right to vote protected to matter in the general.

     Pete's sweet spot is 2028 to 2040.
    He might need to poll higher than 1% amongst black voters. 
  • Posts: 16,951
    People on here really need to learn what a meme is. I don't post memes, like never.
    Ok, dumb videos that that Field of Dreams one just now.  
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  • Posts: 1,814
    Pandering to their base by blaming the ills on a boogeyman?  Yup.

    Look - we aren't going to agree on this.  And I'm not saying Bernie is as bad a person as trump.  Just that their campaigns seem to use a similar playbook and cause their supporters to behave in a similar manner (questioning the media, questioning vote results, talking of deep state conspiracies against their candidate, etc). 

    So, as someone who is not really a democrat by choice, I am very concerned about his nomination.  
    Can we get Biden to stop pandering to upper-middle-class liberals by pointing to a bogeyman? 
  • Posts: 16,951
    mcgruff10 said:
    True. He definitely is not getting the black vote. 
    And why is that?
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  • Posts: 31,631
    edited February 2020
    Ok, dumb videos that that Field of Dreams one just now.  
    Did you just refer to a GIF as a "video"? 




    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Posts: 16,951
    ecdanc said:
    Can we get Biden to stop pandering to upper-middle-class liberals by pointing to a bogeyman? 
    Do you realize all you do is ask questions?  Why is that?
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  • Posts: 16,951
    Did you just refer to a GIF as a "video"? 




    Jesus christ really?  What the fuck ever.  They are always useless, just stick to typing your thoughts instead of finding a dumb gif, meme, video, what the fuck ever.
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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,164
    And why is that?
    Because he is gay.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Posts: 1,814
    Do you realize all you do is ask questions?  Why is that?
    You don't like questions?
  • Posts: 16,951
    the recording, reproducing, or broadcasting of moving visual images.

    GIFs in 2018 are no longer just a collection of simple images, as they were back in 1995. Often, animated GIFs are clips ripped from TV and movies—basically, video saved in the wrong format. Unlike actual, video formats, GIFs don't use any kind of video encoding or compression techniques.


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  • Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    Because he is gay.  
    "The racial makeup of the township was 88.30% (45,100) White, 3.65% (1,865) Black or African American, 0.15% (79) Native American, 4.52% (2,309) Asian, 0.05% (23) Pacific Islander, 1.61% (822) from other races, and 1.72% (877) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 8.13% (4,153) of the population."
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    edited February 2020

    Pete is not intelligent nor charismatic? I'm impressed every time I see him interviewed.

    The base needs time to warm up to candidates. They want to know you and think you can win. They also need to have their right to vote protected to matter in the general.

     Pete's sweet spot is 2028 to 2040.
    I think you are wrong on this. But let me preface by saying that I can not vote in the election.

    Hillary was well known and it gave people zero excitement. Didn't Gore and Kerry feel very much "dragged out from the Establishment because they had put enough hours in to get the chancet"

    Obama was new and fresh. Bill Clinton, wasn't he an unknown commodity before he melted women's hearts by feeling their pain? George W Bush was ofcourse known, but he came in with a lot of energy, gaffs and lies about McCain having a black child Etc. 

    I think that will be a problem with Biden - it would be a Hillary situation. Not new. Not fresh. Not that unknown hope of big things a head. People liked him as Obamas dadjoke-friend. Without Obama, he's just "oh wait, one of those politicians". I can't see people being fired up at rallys with him behind the podium, people would come hoping for a good guest artist to show up.

    So in that regard, I think Pete winning now is possible because fresh = energy = momentum . And in 2040 is way past his sweetspoint.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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