The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    When you vote for Sanders, keep in mind, this is who trumpers want you to vote for.

    Do you think Trump supporters are generally right about things?


    Ummm...what a weird question cause I'm talking 1 specific issue.  For comparison, I think you are generally wrong about a lot of things but that doesn't mean you won't be right at some point.
    So you are saying these Trump supporters you speak of on 1 specific issue -- this one for example - can be correct then.


    They are going to paint Sanders as a socialist. This is not Canada. This is not Europe. They are extremely confident in their strategy 

    To make it even worse for Democrats, as been pointed out plenty, sanders is not even a Democrat, so he will even lose some votes from his own "party." November is a train wreck waiting to happen.

    Trump was an outsider but he was smart enough to know to go all in with what the insiders wanted in order to win 

    The only way dems win in this country is to have a young charismatic candidate 


     
    Did the insiders want him to ask russia for help and to attack ted cruz wife etc?

    Also, regarding socialism - here is your young candidates take on that:



    Of course I agree with that but you know what it's like here? I'm in one of the bluest states (I wish I can get my phone to autosave that sentence!) And it's pretty bad even by me. Imagine what its like in the swing states. How much Fox News do you watch? Hint, its THE most popular cable channel here.
    Isn't this what people said about voting in a black man before Obama?

    And when people are all "this is what america want and all they can take" you end up with Gore, Kerry, Hillary.

    Have a bit of faith and do the right thing, and:




    The huge difference is that demographic IS the democratic base.

    Obama got the base out in record numbers for obvious reasons, and left leaning moderates and conservatives with his intelligence and charisma. He is a once in a generation politician. 
    Well, that rules out Mayo Pete. 
    True. He definitely is not getting the black vote. 
    And why is that?
    Because he is gay.  
    This statement is racist. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,715
    My god...Bernie's going to win.  

    You need the middle.  And you've lost the middle.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    Jesus... get on a plane at 530 in the morning,  get off and there's 91 posts and tagged like 30 times because of the quote feature. 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,448
    mcgruff10 said:
    I m wondering if Pete could take surrounding states like Kentucky or Ohio.  Could he even take Indiana or could this be another al gore?
    Unfortunately, I think Pete's strategy is at odds with what just happened in Iowa. It's long been clear that he's been counting on gaining momentum from Iowa and riding that wave through, following in Obama's footsteps in how he ran his campaign. I think the two key differentiators this time around that would change the conditions enough to change the results, are Pete's lack of black voters, and the fact that the results rollout has been such a shit-show (and is already being weaponized as Democratic ineptitude, and buried under Trump's acquittal). My gut feel is that that won't be enough to keep him in the spotlight.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    Jesus... get on a plane at 530 in the morning,  get off and there's 91 posts and tagged like 30 times because of the quote feature. 
    You playing a superbowl party? :O 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited February 2020
    benjs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I m wondering if Pete could take surrounding states like Kentucky or Ohio.  Could he even take Indiana or could this be another al gore?
    Unfortunately, I think Pete's strategy is at odds with what just happened in Iowa. It's long been clear that he's been counting on gaining momentum from Iowa and riding that wave through, following in Obama's footsteps in how he ran his campaign. I think the two key differentiators this time around that would change the conditions enough to change the results, are Pete's lack of black voters, and the fact that the results rollout has been such a shit-show (and is already being weaponized as Democratic ineptitude, and buried under Trump's acquittal). My gut feel is that that won't be enough to keep him in the spotlight.

    Buttigieg campaign spent heavily in the last four months — betting it all on Iowa

    https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/iowa-caucuses-live-results-coverage-2020/h_9bdbe26a2e4e20b322f279da1cbd329b

    So, yeah, like you said. Lets see if this "kickstart" will keep the heart going. Mötley Crüe reference.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited February 2020


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674

    Bernie Bro number 1:




    Bernie Bro number 2:





    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited February 2020
    ecdanc said:

    The narrative needs to be kept:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    ecdanc said:

    I don't have a horse in this race, but if it were Biden threatening to take the lead, Perez would be mum, regardless of what a shitsow it has been. 

    You know what, Bernie should make everyone happy (democrats, republicans, whathaveyou) and withdraw from the democratic party and run as an independent.

    That's what democrats appear to be clamoring for, though I don't think they've thought that one through (because democrats). His campaign has more than enough funding to do so.

    It would amuse me at least.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited February 2020
    Then the people screaming opportunist about Bernie in here would get to keep Donald. Wonder if they would be happy.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    If Bernie is the nominee, it’s Rayguns and Carter all over. If Bernie isn’t the nominee, the Bernie bro’s stay home and stamp their feet and pout. Putin on the ritz wins either way.
    This would be true.  Bernie could be the worst candidate ever if he does in fact win the dem nominee.  Who you rooting for these days halifax? Going Biden?

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    ecdanc said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    If Bernie is the nominee, it’s Rayguns and Carter all over. If Bernie isn’t the nominee, the Bernie bro’s stay home and stamp their feet and pout. Putin on the ritz wins either way.
    Bernie bros? Eyeroll. 
    Berniebrosises. Happy now?
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  • pjl44
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    I would love to see Trump, Biden/Warren, Amash (Libertarian), and Sanders (Green) all on the debate stages
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,236
    pjl44 said:
    I would love to see Trump, Biden/Warren, Amash (Libertarian), and Sanders (Green) all on the debate stages
    I love it.  Come on sanders be a man and run Green Party. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    edited February 2020
    Andrew Yang is the best. The biggest Bernie Bro out there. Will be nice seeing him take a position in Bernies administration. 


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  • dankind
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Wait a minute here. You mean to say that a Massachusetts liberal's campaign staff has a bunch of closeted racists in the mix. :open_mouth:

    :get_outta_here:
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  • ecdanc
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    pjl44 said:
    I would love to see Trump, Biden/Warren, Amash (Libertarian), and Sanders (Green) all on the debate stages
    Amash? *snort*
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