The Democratic Presidential Debates
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Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.0 -
Would you indulge me, in doing the "A Few Good Men" routine first? Or just get the answer straight away?mrussel1 said:
Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I guess we could use the same analogy: why even talk to a person about American politics if they can not partake in the process?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
That is not the same analogy.mcgruff10 said:
I guess we could use the same analogy: why even talk to a person about American politics if they can not partake in the process?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I can’t vote for a candidate that says the Boston bomber should be able to vote.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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But you can vote for Donald Trump.mcgruff10 said:I can’t vote for a candidate that says the Boston bomber should be able to vote."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
thank you for posting this. when he does 4 or 5 three hour podcasts a week, it's hard to wade through it all. I was hoping he'd address this.Spiritual_Chaos said:Joe Rogan Responds to Bernie Sanders Endorsement Controversy
https://youtu.be/P-KjcOQPVeIYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
And this would be an example of why I would vote for him over Bernie.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But you can vote for Donald Trump.mcgruff10 said:I can’t vote for a candidate that says the Boston bomber should be able to vote.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
No problems. Some don't watch videos. But I know that some do.HughFreakingDillon said:
thank you for posting this. when he does 4 or 5 three hour podcasts a week, it's hard to wade through it all. I was hoping he'd address this.Spiritual_Chaos said:Joe Rogan Responds to Bernie Sanders Endorsement Controversy
https://youtu.be/P-KjcOQPVeI"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I love James Carville. Preach James, preach!!!
James Carville Rages Over State of Democratic Party: ‘I’m Scared to Death!’
Longtime Democratic strategist James Carville sounded the alarm bells on Tuesday night over what he described as the Democratic Party turning into an “ideological cult,” specifically singling out would-be presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.
In the wake of Monday night’s chaotic Iowa Democratic caucus that featured delayed vote results due to a faulty app, Carville appeared on MSNBC to warn that regardless of the final tallies, the Dems appear to be in big trouble.
“The polling averages have not been very good the last 10 days,” he sighed. “And I’ve seen some pretty good polls that show enthusiasm among Democrats is not as high as we would like it. So there’s something as people are watching this process that is concerning.”
Saying the party needs to “wake up and make sure that we talk about things that are relevant to people,” the former Clinton adviser grumbled that he is “not very impressed” with the Democratic field and suggested DNC chair Tom Perez should be canned.
After complaining that the campaigns “have to be more relevant,” Carville—who is backing longshot presidential hopeful Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO)— was asked if he would get behind Sanders if the progressive senator ended up getting the nomination.
“Well, I’ll get behind him. I have no choice,” an unenthused Carville replied. “But look at the British Labour Party. We’re like talking about people voting from jail cells. We’re talking about not having a border. I mean, come on, people.”
He continued to rail against Sanders’ policy positions, describing the independent Vermont lawmaker as being for “open borders” and stressing that he doesn’t want the “Democratic Party of the United States to be the Labour Party of the United Kingdom,” something he's told The Daily Beast before.
Carville would go on to exclaim that Democrats need to be more concerned about taking power back in Washington, repeatedly stating that only 18 percent of the population controls 52 Senate seats.
“It matters who the candidate is, it matters what a party chooses to talk about!” Carville shouted. “I’m 75 years old. Why am I here doing this? Because I am scared to death, that’s why! Let’s get relevant here, people, for sure.”
“I just love you,” former Democratic senator and current MSNBC contributor Claire McCaskill cooed in response.
Carville, meanwhile, went on to make his case that the party was leaning towards a centrist candidate over a liberal one, wondering out loud: “Do we want to be an ideological cult? Or do we want to have a majoritarian instinct to have the majority party?”
“You and I know that 18 percent of the country elects 52 senators,” he continued, addressing McCaskill. “The urban core is not gonna get it done. What we need is power! Do you understand? That’s what this is about.”
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Spot-onmcgruff10 said:I love James Carville. Preach James, preach!!!James Carville Rages Over State of Democratic Party: ‘I’m Scared to Death!’
Longtime Democratic strategist James Carville sounded the alarm bells on Tuesday night over what he described as the Democratic Party turning into an “ideological cult,” specifically singling out would-be presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.
In the wake of Monday night’s chaotic Iowa Democratic caucus that featured delayed vote results due to a faulty app, Carville appeared on MSNBC to warn that regardless of the final tallies, the Dems appear to be in big trouble.
“The polling averages have not been very good the last 10 days,” he sighed. “And I’ve seen some pretty good polls that show enthusiasm among Democrats is not as high as we would like it. So there’s something as people are watching this process that is concerning.”
Saying the party needs to “wake up and make sure that we talk about things that are relevant to people,” the former Clinton adviser grumbled that he is “not very impressed” with the Democratic field and suggested DNC chair Tom Perez should be canned.
After complaining that the campaigns “have to be more relevant,” Carville—who is backing longshot presidential hopeful Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO)— was asked if he would get behind Sanders if the progressive senator ended up getting the nomination.
“Well, I’ll get behind him. I have no choice,” an unenthused Carville replied. “But look at the British Labour Party. We’re like talking about people voting from jail cells. We’re talking about not having a border. I mean, come on, people.”
He continued to rail against Sanders’ policy positions, describing the independent Vermont lawmaker as being for “open borders” and stressing that he doesn’t want the “Democratic Party of the United States to be the Labour Party of the United Kingdom,” something he's told The Daily Beast before.
Carville would go on to exclaim that Democrats need to be more concerned about taking power back in Washington, repeatedly stating that only 18 percent of the population controls 52 Senate seats.
“It matters who the candidate is, it matters what a party chooses to talk about!” Carville shouted. “I’m 75 years old. Why am I here doing this? Because I am scared to death, that’s why! Let’s get relevant here, people, for sure.”
“I just love you,” former Democratic senator and current MSNBC contributor Claire McCaskill cooed in response.
Carville, meanwhile, went on to make his case that the party was leaning towards a centrist candidate over a liberal one, wondering out loud: “Do we want to be an ideological cult? Or do we want to have a majoritarian instinct to have the majority party?”
“You and I know that 18 percent of the country elects 52 senators,” he continued, addressing McCaskill. “The urban core is not gonna get it done. What we need is power! Do you understand? That’s what this is about.”
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Looks like mistakes are being made. Bet this is nothing. But why not throw it on the "IOWA HAS GIVEN TRUMP THE PRESIDENCY!" pile.
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it went further that that and slso addressed the trans stuff too . Mark Normad eps. approx 35-40 min in or so.HughFreakingDillon said:
thank you for posting this. when he does 4 or 5 three hour podcasts a week, it's hard to wade through it all. I was hoping he'd address this.Spiritual_Chaos said:Joe Rogan Responds to Bernie Sanders Endorsement Controversy
https://youtu.be/P-KjcOQPVeI
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I don't think he understands how to use quotes correctly. I can't recall ever saying "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders". Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.mrussel1 said:
Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mrussel1 said:
Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
mcgruff10 said:
I don't think he understands how to use quotes correctly. I can't recall ever saying "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders". Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.mrussel1 said:
Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
Now McGruff - please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim. ?
Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.
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I was just sarcastically replying to your dumb senseless post.Spiritual_Chaos said:mrussel1 said:
Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.mcgruff10 said:
I don't think he understands how to use quotes correctly. I can't recall ever saying "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders". Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.mrussel1 said:
Quoting its customarily used to document what a person explicitly said.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Realist =/= opportunistmcgruff10 said:
That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie.mickeyrat said:mcgruff10 said:
If only Bernie was a Democrat.ecdanc said:mo
The article is by a Democrat....cincybearcat said:
I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.ecdanc said:
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-toolcincybearcat said:I think that’s a really bad take.
You think Pete is just an opportunist?yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.THAT is opportunist....
But I think a discussion on the subject with a "proud to vote Trump instead of Sanders" supporter is a non-starter. So no point in going there.
Now McGruff - please point to where I "were pissed at Eddie for taking a private jet, ", quoting you verbatim. ?
Seems like someone likes to add in some words to fit their own narrative.
Even so you didn't use quotes correctly.
You re this big environmental guy: are you ok with people like Bernie, Elizabeth and Ed
Using private jets to get around?Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I dunno MCG. I think the Jersey overlords are in emergency session on that one.
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Someone please emphasize tha 18% above for S_C.Post edited by Lerxst1992 on0
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