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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    would be interested see links posted to specific examples of that.

    you can keep the extraneous bullshit to yourself . e.g memes gifs screenshots
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    I have no dog in that particular fight. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    It's by someone that thinks if you aren't for universal health care that you are a corporate tool.  Really smart reporting.  It's tools like this that give us the Bernie Bros and in turn gave us Trump.  
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    No kidding.  
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    That would be correct sir and my point. There is no bigger opportunist then Bernie. 

    No kidding.  
    What's the difference between political efficacy and opportunism?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
    Oh yeah. A few times actually. According to Wikipedia, which isn't always accurate, but I would trust it here for the President's party affiliations, they list Trump's party affiliations as:

    Democrat: Birth-1987
    Republican: 1987-1999
    Reform (when he was considering a third-party run in 2000): 1999-2001
    Democrat: 2001-2009
    Republican: 2009-2011
    No Party: 2011-2012
    Republican: 2012-present




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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
    Oh yeah. A few times actually. According to Wikipedia, which isn't always accurate, but I would trust it here for the President's party affiliations, they list Trump's party affiliations as:

    Democrat: Birth-1987
    Republican: 1987-1999
    Reform (when he was considering a third-party run in 2000): 1999-2001
    Democrat: 2001-2009
    Republican: 2009-2011
    No Party: 2011-2012
    Republican: 2012-present




    I did not know that. Good info, thanks. (Not surprising)

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2020
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system



    The system in Iowa is not the U.S. system. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    mcgruff10 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:mo
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/21/beware-pete-buttigieg-sharp-corporate-tool
    I’m just going to go ahead and not believe the communist on this one. No offense you can have your beliefs, but I’m not coming along for your ride.
    The article is by a Democrat....
    If only Bernie was a Democrat. 
    yes, thos. every winning race that man has won was as an independent. his first membership in a democratic socialist party  to this day has not won a national seat and only a few state seats.

    he appoarently started as acn independent then was regidtered member of DS partu for 7 years then flipped back to I.

    Registered D for the sole purpose of running for President. Hijacking party apparatus  to avoid having to do the hard work of getting on ballot in every state.

    THAT is opportunist....
    Not that dissimilar to Trump actually. I think he switched back to Republican in 2012 because he was mulling possibly running. 
    I knew he donated to both parties candidates. He bragged about it, buying influence. Was unaware he was ever GOP until he registered to run....
    Oh yeah. A few times actually. According to Wikipedia, which isn't always accurate, but I would trust it here for the President's party affiliations, they list Trump's party affiliations as:

    Democrat: Birth-1987
    Republican: 1987-1999
    Reform (when he was considering a third-party run in 2000): 1999-2001
    Democrat: 2001-2009
    Republican: 2009-2011
    No Party: 2011-2012
    Republican: 2012-present






    I did not know that. Good info, thanks. (Not surprising)

    seems similar to Bloomberg
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    When you are used to the basic idea of  "1 person = 1 vote" and watching MSNBC to try to understand the US system


    This is the point I was making the other day,  that the caucus is not how we vote and it favors a class if people,  since you have to have several hours on a Monday night to kill.  But the twit's conclusion is stupid,  that a caucus in Iowa makes the United States a failed state. 
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