The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    This race needs to get down to Pete vs Warren/sanders vs Bloomberg fast ;) 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    cincybearcat said:
    This race needs to get down to Pete vs Warren/sanders vs Bloomberg fast ;) 
    I don't want any combo of Pete,  Bloom,  Biden in the mix.  They just cannibalize each other.  I know that's not on the cards anytime soon. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    This race needs to get down to Pete vs Warren/sanders vs Bloomberg fast ;) 
    I don't want any combo of Pete,  Bloom,  Biden in the mix.  They just cannibalize each other.  I know that's not on the cards anytime soon. 
    Bloomberg won’t last long if Pete gains traction from iowa. If he doesn’t, he fills the void. Cause Biden sucks and someone needs to defeat Bernie 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    pjl44 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What happened in Iowa? In one sentence? Voting didn't work as planned?
    They developed a new reporting app that didn't work. Chaos ensues.
    Honestly I have no idea what the huge deal is. Reporting happened, some issues, they are looking back at the hard votes and data to ensure they get it right. Just cause you don’t get the info instantaneously doesn’t mean it’s bad.


    Yeah probably. The campaigns were all pretty pissed, though, and it does make the DNC look silly. The test will be whether any of the candidates call the results into question. 
    The campaigns are pissed because:

    1) Biden wants to down play his big loss
    2) Pete and Amy missing chance to gain traction quickly

    How come with all the talk about Trump not accepting election results, it always seems like it the Dems?  Even when a primary?  Sickening.  I think the country's only hope is to have Biden and Bernie have to drop out cause they are old farts.
    So you seem to be following this closely. Who do you anticipate the winner of the caucus being?
    Honestly it'll be Bernie with slim shot at Pete.  Pete did very well, especially after non-viable candidates had to have voters move.  My guess is bernie wins but Pete and Amy beat expectations.
    Interesting. Surprising to see Biden do so poorly. 
    The word is he may have done *very* poorly
    According to the slim sample I had...a few people at districts and then watching a bunch of others on TV...biden didnt have a lot of support in many areas.  Even in some areas that had an older caucus goer... We will see but I think the results will be very bad for him.  
    pete though! 

     
    interesting. yeah its not the full count, but look at the differences between first and final counts.

    And the campaigns want to rush......
    They never should report first tally. Doesn’t mean a thing.

    and Bernie releasing this makes me like him less. What an ass. 40%? Just let them count you old asshat.

    You must be young
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    Lerxst1992 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    pjl44 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What happened in Iowa? In one sentence? Voting didn't work as planned?
    They developed a new reporting app that didn't work. Chaos ensues.
    Honestly I have no idea what the huge deal is. Reporting happened, some issues, they are looking back at the hard votes and data to ensure they get it right. Just cause you don’t get the info instantaneously doesn’t mean it’s bad.


    Yeah probably. The campaigns were all pretty pissed, though, and it does make the DNC look silly. The test will be whether any of the candidates call the results into question. 
    The campaigns are pissed because:

    1) Biden wants to down play his big loss
    2) Pete and Amy missing chance to gain traction quickly

    How come with all the talk about Trump not accepting election results, it always seems like it the Dems?  Even when a primary?  Sickening.  I think the country's only hope is to have Biden and Bernie have to drop out cause they are old farts.
    So you seem to be following this closely. Who do you anticipate the winner of the caucus being?
    Honestly it'll be Bernie with slim shot at Pete.  Pete did very well, especially after non-viable candidates had to have voters move.  My guess is bernie wins but Pete and Amy beat expectations.
    Interesting. Surprising to see Biden do so poorly. 
    The word is he may have done *very* poorly
    According to the slim sample I had...a few people at districts and then watching a bunch of others on TV...biden didnt have a lot of support in many areas.  Even in some areas that had an older caucus goer... We will see but I think the results will be very bad for him.  
    pete though! 

     
    interesting. yeah its not the full count, but look at the differences between first and final counts.

    And the campaigns want to rush......
    They never should report first tally. Doesn’t mean a thing.

    and Bernie releasing this makes me like him less. What an ass. 40%? Just let them count you old asshat.

    You must be young
    Ummm nope. Just ain’t almost 80.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited February 2020
    I don't think the Iowa caucus mess has anything to do with the screw ups.  I think it has to do more more with where America is at as A WHOLE:  poorly educated.  That's why we need Yang.  He wants to Make America Think Harder.  We need to do that because we do not do things well any more.  If we keep being stupid by electing  the likes of Trump (please, never again!) or putting our hopes in old guys like Biden or angry old men like Sanders (nothing wrong with being old, but we have some vibrant younger candidates!) , we will continue to find ourselves going deep and deeper down the mire.  This country is a mess and a disgrace.  We have been better and we can be better again. 


    Post edited by brianlux on
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    edited February 2020
    Closed for review. It appears some have forgotten the #1 rule about name-calling. Calling other members names is never ok. I hope no one loses posting privileges. This will be reopened after review.

    Ok, it's ready to be reopened for new discussion. It's very busy with the new album and touring this year and so please be careful that your political passions don't make a problem with not following the Posting Guidelines. There are strong ways to say things without being abusive. Rise above...way above. Thank you.
    Post edited by Kat on
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2020


    Why name a company "shadow" unless it is the evil company for some 1980s Paul Verhoeven sci-fi thriller?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    https://youtu.be/ZMPPxZMdd50
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    https://youtu.be/ZMPPxZMdd50
    So are you for Yang, or Bernie? You seem to promote both. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2020
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    https://youtu.be/ZMPPxZMdd50
    So are you for Yang, or Bernie? You seem to promote both. 
    Once again --

    -- take the time to actually watch the video before commenting

    -- he praises Bernie in the video.

    Andrew Yang is a Bernies number one fan. 

    If you are for Andrew you are for Bernie. Andrew Yang is Bernie


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited February 2020
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    https://youtu.be/ZMPPxZMdd50
    So are you for Yang, or Bernie? You seem to promote both. 
    Once again --

    -- take the time to actually watch the video before commenting

    -- he praises Bernie in the video.

    Andrew Yang is a Bernies number one fan. 

    If you are for Andrew you are for Bernie. Andrew Yang is Bernie
    Ugh...what was I thinking even trying to converse with you? You could just say "Yeah I'm for Bernie but Yang praises Bernie in the video" without being so snarky about it. 
    Post edited by Ledbetterman10 on
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2020
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    https://youtu.be/ZMPPxZMdd50
    So are you for Yang, or Bernie? You seem to promote both. 
    Once again --

    -- take the time to actually watch the video before commenting

    -- he praises Bernie in the video.

    Andrew Yang is a Bernies number one fan. 

    If you are for Andrew you are for Bernie. Andrew Yang is Bernie
    Ugh...what was I thinking even trying to converse with you? 
    Forgive me, if I am mistaken. But I am pretty sure exactly this has played out before. 

    If it has not, and that was someone else. Then I'm sorry.

    And I do think I have posted videos from all candidates in here. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    No one is watching videos. Text, screenshot, gif, or link to text. Those are the choices.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    https://youtu.be/ZMPPxZMdd50
    So are you for Yang, or Bernie? You seem to promote both. 
    Once again --

    -- take the time to actually watch the video before commenting

    -- he praises Bernie in the video.

    Andrew Yang is a Bernies number one fan. 

    If you are for Andrew you are for Bernie. Andrew Yang is Bernie
    Ugh...what was I thinking even trying to converse with you? 
    Forgive me, if I am mistaken. But I am pretty sure exactly this has played out before. 

    If it has not, and that was someone else. Then I'm sorry.

    And I do think I have posted videos from all candidates in here. 
    Well you replied before my edit but I went on to say "You could just say 'Yeah I'm for Bernie but Yang praises Bernie in the video' without being so snarky about it." I'm trying to play ball. But I'm not watching every video posted in these threads. Nor do I read every post. If I come to this page and it says thre's 55 new posts, I skip to the newest one. 

    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2020
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    https://youtu.be/ZMPPxZMdd50
    So are you for Yang, or Bernie? You seem to promote both. 
    Once again --

    -- take the time to actually watch the video before commenting

    -- he praises Bernie in the video.

    Andrew Yang is a Bernies number one fan. 

    If you are for Andrew you are for Bernie. Andrew Yang is Bernie
    Ugh...what was I thinking even trying to converse with you? 
    Forgive me, if I am mistaken. But I am pretty sure exactly this has played out before. 

    If it has not, and that was someone else. Then I'm sorry.

    And I do think I have posted videos from all candidates in here. 
    Well you replied before my edit but I went on to say "You could just say 'Yeah I'm for Bernie but Yang praises Bernie in the video' without being so snarky about it." I'm trying to play ball. But I'm not watching every video posted in these threads. Nor do I read every post. If I come to this page and it says thre's 55 new posts, I skip to the newest one. 

    I agree with you. I am sorry. He praises Bernie in the video in a weirdly honest way. Like pretty much saying "I love Bernie. He understands it all like I do. I'm a bit more modern though. But I voted for Bernie in 2016."
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    https://youtu.be/ZMPPxZMdd50
    So are you for Yang, or Bernie? You seem to promote both. 
    Once again --

    -- take the time to actually watch the video before commenting

    -- he praises Bernie in the video.

    Andrew Yang is a Bernies number one fan. 

    If you are for Andrew you are for Bernie. Andrew Yang is Bernie
    Ugh...what was I thinking even trying to converse with you? 
    Forgive me, if I am mistaken. But I am pretty sure exactly this has played out before. 

    If it has not, and that was someone else. Then I'm sorry.

    And I do think I have posted videos from all candidates in here. 
    Well you replied before my edit but I went on to say "You could just say 'Yeah I'm for Bernie but Yang praises Bernie in the video' without being so snarky about it." I'm trying to play ball. But I'm not watching every video posted in these threads. Nor do I read every post. If I come to this page and it says thre's 55 new posts, I skip to the newest one. 

    I agree with you. I am sorry. He praises Bernie in the video in a weirdly honest way. Like pretty much saying "I love Bernie. He understands it all like I do. I'm a bit more modern though. But I voted for Bernie in 2016."
    Fair enough. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    pjl44 said:
    No one is watching videos. Text, screenshot, gif, or link to text. Those are the choices.
    Agree.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    cincybearcat said:
    pjl44 said:
    No one is watching videos. Text, screenshot, gif, or link to text. Those are the choices.
    Agree.
    I just now watched a BBC video about the worlds smallest cat
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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