The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2020
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    150k family income a year isn't exactly rich if you live in an urban area.  
    This would be true. 150k ain’t shit. 
    No. $30,000 ain’t shit. $150,000  is far more than shit. Skewed sense of priorities. 
    150k combined really isn’t a lot when you have kids.  And yes captain, it is more thank 30k.  Actually it is 120,000k more.  
    Yes, 150k combined is a lot even when you have kids. 

    Maybe in Kansas but definitely not New Jersey. 
    It’d be a goddamn fortune in Kansas. It’s still a lot in New Jersey. 

    Seems...relative.  30k seemed like a lot to me at one point in time...
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Hey if you don’t need your paycheck send it my way. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    I could use it for my med bills!
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Hey if you don’t need your paycheck send it my way. 

    Help out the poor guy who’ll be driven to homelessness by Sanders’s tax plan? You’re plucking at my heart strings. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Well I'm pretty sure that's not your call. What's the right number? In other words at what dollar amount do you currently fully send back to the government as voluntary tax?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Well I'm pretty sure that's not your call. What's the right number? In other words at what dollar amount do you currently fully send back to the government as voluntary tax?
    You misapprehend my sense of right and wrong. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Well I'm pretty sure that's not your call. What's the right number? In other words at what dollar amount do you currently fully send back to the government as voluntary tax?
    You misapprehend my sense of right and wrong. 
    So it's only in theory,  not practice?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Well I'm pretty sure that's not your call. What's the right number? In other words at what dollar amount do you currently fully send back to the government as voluntary tax?
    You misapprehend my sense of right and wrong. 
    So it's only in theory,  not practice?
    I see you definitely misapprehend the practice. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Well I'm pretty sure that's not your call. What's the right number? In other words at what dollar amount do you currently fully send back to the government as voluntary tax?
    You misapprehend my sense of right and wrong. 
    So it's only in theory,  not practice?
    I see you definitely misapprehend the practice. 
    I live by my principles.  What am I misunderstanding about yours?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    I'm not a huge fan of capitalism- I tend to lean more toward democratic socialism.  But communism?  I've never heard of or read about a communist state that sounded like anything I'd want to be a part of.  And the communists I've met tended to be angry people with an axe to grind.  No thanks.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Well I'm pretty sure that's not your call. What's the right number? In other words at what dollar amount do you currently fully send back to the government as voluntary tax?
    You misapprehend my sense of right and wrong. 
    So it's only in theory,  not practice?
    seems  he deals mostly in theory. excuse me , they......
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  • mrussel1
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    brianlux said:
    I'm not a huge fan of capitalism- I tend to lean more toward democratic socialism.  But communism?  I've never heard of or read about a communist state that sounded like anything I'd want to be a part of.  And the communists I've met tended to be angry people with an axe to grind.  No thanks.
    Outside true Libertarians or crazy ass objectivism supporters,  most people are essentially democratic socialists,  even Republicans.  The difference is to what degree does one believe the government should provide services. How deep does that go? Bernie goes very deep while most Republicans would lose most non civil services other than social security... because they would lose every election. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Well I'm pretty sure that's not your call. What's the right number? In other words at what dollar amount do you currently fully send back to the government as voluntary tax?
    You misapprehend my sense of right and wrong. 
    So it's only in theory,  not practice?
    I see you definitely misapprehend the practice. 
    What is the best Pearl Jam show you have been at?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm not a huge fan of capitalism- I tend to lean more toward democratic socialism.  But communism?  I've never heard of or read about a communist state that sounded like anything I'd want to be a part of.  And the communists I've met tended to be angry people with an axe to grind.  No thanks.
    Outside true Libertarians or crazy ass objectivism supporters,  most people are essentially democratic socialists,  even Republicans.  The difference is to what degree does one believe the government should provide services. How deep does that go? Bernie goes very deep while most Republicans would lose most non civil services other than social security... because they would lose every election. 

    I wish I had a better grasp of these concepts.  Makes my head spin!  I'd like to find a system that is based largely on common sense and is good for the planet and humanity.  But I don't know, after all these years I don't think I've seen it yet. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm not a huge fan of capitalism- I tend to lean more toward democratic socialism.  But communism?  I've never heard of or read about a communist state that sounded like anything I'd want to be a part of.  And the communists I've met tended to be angry people with an axe to grind.  No thanks.
    Outside true Libertarians or crazy ass objectivism supporters,  most people are essentially democratic socialists,  even Republicans.  The difference is to what degree does one believe the government should provide services. How deep does that go? Bernie goes very deep while most Republicans would lose most non civil services other than social security... because they would lose every election. 

    I wish I had a better grasp of these concepts.  Makes my head spin!  I'd like to find a system that is based largely on common sense and is good for the planet and humanity.  But I don't know, after all these years I don't think I've seen it yet. 
    Humans are flawed.  Damn Eve with her apple.  We were so close to an eternity of perfection. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm not a huge fan of capitalism- I tend to lean more toward democratic socialism.  But communism?  I've never heard of or read about a communist state that sounded like anything I'd want to be a part of.  And the communists I've met tended to be angry people with an axe to grind.  No thanks.
    Outside true Libertarians or crazy ass objectivism supporters,  most people are essentially democratic socialists,  even Republicans.  The difference is to what degree does one believe the government should provide services. How deep does that go? Bernie goes very deep while most Republicans would lose most non civil services other than social security... because they would lose every election. 

    I wish I had a better grasp of these concepts.  Makes my head spin!  I'd like to find a system that is based largely on common sense and is good for the planet and humanity.  But I don't know, after all these years I don't think I've seen it yet. 
    Humans are flawed.  Damn Eve with her apple.  We were so close to an eternity of perfection. 

    So true, flawed we are. But here we are, crawling toward the lamp, looking for the light.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Selfish. That’s nice. I forgot though you are the communist that just wants other to pay for your everything. So it’s not a surprise. 

    Bet you bitch about Pearl Jam ticket prices too don’t you?
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,446
    edited January 2020
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    all you trying to nail down what’s enough and what’s ok for someone based on a number. You have no idea how anyone got there. It’s ducking sickening. 
    Don’t care how you got there. 
    I know. It’s weird what people care about. You just want to do whatever you want and take what you need from others to make up for your inabilities.
    No one needs 150k a year. Don’t be so selfish. 
    Who are you to be the arbiter of what an individual needs without knowing their liabilities or circumstances? FWIW, I hope to earn more than that in my lifetime, and I'll do so with hard work and without guilt. 
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