mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/opinions/iowa-caucus-goers-choose-moderate-houlahan/index.html

Congresswoman: Iowa, send someone who can win my state

Well, she can always vote for a repeated liar

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1222649628631486464?s=20

I agree. Don't vote for that liar Bernie sanders.  Just ask Elizabeth Warren.

Agreed.

And still you'd proudly vote for fascist Trump over Sanders.



So maybe skip joining in on this discussion.

It just shows what a horrible candidate Sanders is in my eyes.  I ll continue to engage in this discussion since I m the only one voting in the election between the two of us. 

Why do you so often piggyback on other peoples posts and opinions? Now its Mickeyrats endlessly repeated (and moot) punchline you choose to parrot. Historically it has most often been mrussels. 

I don't get that trait.

And say what you want about Sanders being "horrible", you still would pick full blown racist Trump and his 8000+ lies. Which i don't even think the parroted in here would be able to defend. Or at least I hope they can't.

And that's the end of the "engaging" for me, because what is there to gain from someone who would "proudly" choose Trump over a normal human being. You that even are the only one voting in the election between the two of us! Come on Man! (Biden quote)

Yes voting for trump over sanders is a very popular opinion around here that I have piggybacked (insert sarcasm).  Second amendment rights is one where I got against the norm.  On Iran, mrussell and I went head to head.  So I"m not really sure where you are coming from on that one.  All my thoughts are my own.  
I did use mickeyrats line about you not voting here in the us. Guilty as charged.  

And yes I think Sanders is horrible.  His policies would cost me a hell of a lot of money to the point where I would actual question whether or not I would be able to pay my current bills and live in my house.  I realize you only have to worry about you but I have an entire family to take care of.

Fingers crossed 

That Biden wins? Agreed. 

No, fingers crossed that your taxes are so high that you can't take care of your family.  

Since it may be a while before we get to full communism, I'd like to see taxes increased across the board, but definitely on anyone who would be significantly affected by Sanders's policies.  

Communism is a failed economic philosophy and is for fucking morons.  Excuse my language.  

Capitalism is a failed economic philosophy and is for fucking sociopaths. We can excuse each other's language. 

No one is stopping you from moving to North Korea.

Why would he/she?

What made you suddenly so weirdly aggravated. Lol.

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/opinions/iowa-caucus-goers-choose-moderate-houlahan/index.html

Congresswoman: Iowa, send someone who can win my state

Well, she can always vote for a repeated liar

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1222649628631486464?s=20

I agree. Don't vote for that liar Bernie sanders.  Just ask Elizabeth Warren.

Agreed.

And still you'd proudly vote for fascist Trump over Sanders.



So maybe skip joining in on this discussion.

It just shows what a horrible candidate Sanders is in my eyes.  I ll continue to engage in this discussion since I m the only one voting in the election between the two of us. 

Why do you so often piggyback on other peoples posts and opinions? Now its Mickeyrats endlessly repeated (and moot) punchline you choose to parrot. Historically it has most often been mrussels. 

I don't get that trait.

And say what you want about Sanders being "horrible", you still would pick full blown racist Trump and his 8000+ lies. Which i don't even think the parroted in here would be able to defend. Or at least I hope they can't.

And that's the end of the "engaging" for me, because what is there to gain from someone who would "proudly" choose Trump over a normal human being. You that even are the only one voting in the election between the two of us! Come on Man! (Biden quote)

Yes voting for trump over sanders is a very popular opinion around here that I have piggybacked (insert sarcasm).  Second amendment rights is one where I got against the norm.  On Iran, mrussell and I went head to head.  So I"m not really sure where you are coming from on that one.  All my thoughts are my own.  
I did use mickeyrats line about you not voting here in the us. Guilty as charged.  

And yes I think Sanders is horrible.  His policies would cost me a hell of a lot of money to the point where I would actual question whether or not I would be able to pay my current bills and live in my house.  I realize you only have to worry about you but I have an entire family to take care of.

Fingers crossed 

That Biden wins? Agreed. 

No, fingers crossed that your taxes are so high that you can't take care of your family.  

Since it may be a while before we get to full communism, I'd like to see taxes increased across the board, but definitely on anyone who would be significantly affected by Sanders's policies.  

Communism is a failed economic philosophy and is for fucking morons.  Excuse my language.  

Agreed. Are north korea and Cuba shining examples?

Well Cambodia and the Soviet Block were stunning successes as well.  Even Vietnam transferred from a centrally planned to a market economy starting in the 80's and now over 40 million people were lifted out of poverty.  People who advocate for communism just have never done any real critical analysis.  They read Marx and say "aha!".  Yet it fails every time.  

Social democracy has provided the far best successes in history. If you want to go down that path.

Greedy capitalism fueled by egocentrism and patriotism (read nationalism) has not.

Not to point out the obvious.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/opinions/iowa-caucus-goers-choose-moderate-houlahan/index.html

Congresswoman: Iowa, send someone who can win my state

Well, she can always vote for a repeated liar

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1222649628631486464?s=20

I agree. Don't vote for that liar Bernie sanders.  Just ask Elizabeth Warren.

Agreed.

And still you'd proudly vote for fascist Trump over Sanders.



So maybe skip joining in on this discussion.

It just shows what a horrible candidate Sanders is in my eyes.  I ll continue to engage in this discussion since I m the only one voting in the election between the two of us. 

Why do you so often piggyback on other peoples posts and opinions? Now its Mickeyrats endlessly repeated (and moot) punchline you choose to parrot. Historically it has most often been mrussels. 

I don't get that trait.

And say what you want about Sanders being "horrible", you still would pick full blown racist Trump and his 8000+ lies. Which i don't even think the parroted in here would be able to defend. Or at least I hope they can't.

And that's the end of the "engaging" for me, because what is there to gain from someone who would "proudly" choose Trump over a normal human being. You that even are the only one voting in the election between the two of us! Come on Man! (Biden quote)

Yes voting for trump over sanders is a very popular opinion around here that I have piggybacked (insert sarcasm).  Second amendment rights is one where I got against the norm.  On Iran, mrussell and I went head to head.  So I"m not really sure where you are coming from on that one.  All my thoughts are my own.  
I did use mickeyrats line about you not voting here in the us. Guilty as charged.  

And yes I think Sanders is horrible.  His policies would cost me a hell of a lot of money to the point where I would actual question whether or not I would be able to pay my current bills and live in my house.  I realize you only have to worry about you but I have an entire family to take care of.

Fingers crossed 

That Biden wins? Agreed. 

No, fingers crossed that your taxes are so high that you can't take care of your family.  

Since it may be a while before we get to full communism, I'd like to see taxes increased across the board, but definitely on anyone who would be significantly affected by Sanders's policies.  

Communism is a failed economic philosophy and is for fucking morons.  Excuse my language.  

Agreed. Are north korea and Cuba shining examples?

Well Cambodia and the Soviet Block were stunning successes as well.  Even Vietnam transferred from a centrally planned to a market economy starting in the 80's and now over 40 million people were lifted out of poverty.  People who advocate for communism just have never done any real critical analysis.  They read Marx and say "aha!".  Yet it fails every time.  

Democratic socialism has provided the far best successes in history. If you want to go down that path.

Greedy capitalism fueled by egocentrism and patriotism (read nationalism) has not.

There's a world of difference between Dem socialism/socialism and communism.  And Sweden is a market/mixed economy just like the US.  Social benefits are the difference, although I don't know which country has more gov't investments.  There's no comparison between communism and a gov't providing social benefits.  

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/opinions/iowa-caucus-goers-choose-moderate-houlahan/index.html

Congresswoman: Iowa, send someone who can win my state

Well, she can always vote for a repeated liar

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1222649628631486464?s=20

I agree. Don't vote for that liar Bernie sanders.  Just ask Elizabeth Warren.

Agreed.

And still you'd proudly vote for fascist Trump over Sanders.



So maybe skip joining in on this discussion.

It just shows what a horrible candidate Sanders is in my eyes.  I ll continue to engage in this discussion since I m the only one voting in the election between the two of us. 

Why do you so often piggyback on other peoples posts and opinions? Now its Mickeyrats endlessly repeated (and moot) punchline you choose to parrot. Historically it has most often been mrussels. 

I don't get that trait.

And say what you want about Sanders being "horrible", you still would pick full blown racist Trump and his 8000+ lies. Which i don't even think the parroted in here would be able to defend. Or at least I hope they can't.

And that's the end of the "engaging" for me, because what is there to gain from someone who would "proudly" choose Trump over a normal human being. You that even are the only one voting in the election between the two of us! Come on Man! (Biden quote)

Yes voting for trump over sanders is a very popular opinion around here that I have piggybacked (insert sarcasm).  Second amendment rights is one where I got against the norm.  On Iran, mrussell and I went head to head.  So I"m not really sure where you are coming from on that one.  All my thoughts are my own.  
I did use mickeyrats line about you not voting here in the us. Guilty as charged.  

And yes I think Sanders is horrible.  His policies would cost me a hell of a lot of money to the point where I would actual question whether or not I would be able to pay my current bills and live in my house.  I realize you only have to worry about you but I have an entire family to take care of.

Fingers crossed 

That Biden wins? Agreed. 

No, fingers crossed that your taxes are so high that you can't take care of your family.  

Since it may be a while before we get to full communism, I'd like to see taxes increased across the board, but definitely on anyone who would be significantly affected by Sanders's policies.  

Communism is a failed economic philosophy and is for fucking morons.  Excuse my language.  

Agreed. Are north korea and Cuba shining examples?

Well Cambodia and the Soviet Block were stunning successes as well.  Even Vietnam transferred from a centrally planned to a market economy starting in the 80's and now over 40 million people were lifted out of poverty.  People who advocate for communism just have never done any real critical analysis.  They read Marx and say "aha!".  Yet it fails every time.  

Pol pot did an amazing job. 

So did Kissinger. 

and Stalin..and Lenin...and Mao...

I think wasn't should be "weren't". But you quoted me before I could change that. 

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/opinions/iowa-caucus-goers-choose-moderate-houlahan/index.html

Congresswoman: Iowa, send someone who can win my state

Well, she can always vote for a repeated liar

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1222649628631486464?s=20

I agree. Don't vote for that liar Bernie sanders.  Just ask Elizabeth Warren.

Agreed.

And still you'd proudly vote for fascist Trump over Sanders.



So maybe skip joining in on this discussion.

It just shows what a horrible candidate Sanders is in my eyes.  I ll continue to engage in this discussion since I m the only one voting in the election between the two of us. 

Why do you so often piggyback on other peoples posts and opinions? Now its Mickeyrats endlessly repeated (and moot) punchline you choose to parrot. Historically it has most often been mrussels. 

I don't get that trait.

And say what you want about Sanders being "horrible", you still would pick full blown racist Trump and his 8000+ lies. Which i don't even think the parroted in here would be able to defend. Or at least I hope they can't.

And that's the end of the "engaging" for me, because what is there to gain from someone who would "proudly" choose Trump over a normal human being. You that even are the only one voting in the election between the two of us! Come on Man! (Biden quote)

Yes voting for trump over sanders is a very popular opinion around here that I have piggybacked (insert sarcasm).  Second amendment rights is one where I got against the norm.  On Iran, mrussell and I went head to head.  So I"m not really sure where you are coming from on that one.  All my thoughts are my own.  
I did use mickeyrats line about you not voting here in the us. Guilty as charged.  

And yes I think Sanders is horrible.  His policies would cost me a hell of a lot of money to the point where I would actual question whether or not I would be able to pay my current bills and live in my house.  I realize you only have to worry about you but I have an entire family to take care of.

Fingers crossed 

That Biden wins? Agreed. 

No, fingers crossed that your taxes are so high that you can't take care of your family.  

Since it may be a while before we get to full communism, I'd like to see taxes increased across the board, but definitely on anyone who would be significantly affected by Sanders's policies.  

Communism is a failed economic philosophy and is for fucking morons.  Excuse my language.  

Agreed. Are north korea and Cuba shining examples?

Well Cambodia and the Soviet Block were stunning successes as well.  Even Vietnam transferred from a centrally planned to a market economy starting in the 80's and now over 40 million people were lifted out of poverty.  People who advocate for communism just have never done any real critical analysis.  They read Marx and say "aha!".  Yet it fails every time.  

Pol pot did an amazing job. 

So did Kissinger. 

and Stalin..and Lenin...and Mao...

Reagan, Thatcher, Bush x 2

I think you can catch a ship to the east any time.  Make it happen.  Be a man.  

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/opinions/iowa-caucus-goers-choose-moderate-houlahan/index.html

Congresswoman: Iowa, send someone who can win my state

Well, she can always vote for a repeated liar

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1222649628631486464?s=20

I agree. Don't vote for that liar Bernie sanders.  Just ask Elizabeth Warren.

Agreed.

And still you'd proudly vote for fascist Trump over Sanders.



So maybe skip joining in on this discussion.

It just shows what a horrible candidate Sanders is in my eyes.  I ll continue to engage in this discussion since I m the only one voting in the election between the two of us. 

Why do you so often piggyback on other peoples posts and opinions? Now its Mickeyrats endlessly repeated (and moot) punchline you choose to parrot. Historically it has most often been mrussels. 

I don't get that trait.

And say what you want about Sanders being "horrible", you still would pick full blown racist Trump and his 8000+ lies. Which i don't even think the parroted in here would be able to defend. Or at least I hope they can't.

And that's the end of the "engaging" for me, because what is there to gain from someone who would "proudly" choose Trump over a normal human being. You that even are the only one voting in the election between the two of us! Come on Man! (Biden quote)

Yes voting for trump over sanders is a very popular opinion around here that I have piggybacked (insert sarcasm).  Second amendment rights is one where I got against the norm.  On Iran, mrussell and I went head to head.  So I"m not really sure where you are coming from on that one.  All my thoughts are my own.  
I did use mickeyrats line about you not voting here in the us. Guilty as charged.  

And yes I think Sanders is horrible.  His policies would cost me a hell of a lot of money to the point where I would actual question whether or not I would be able to pay my current bills and live in my house.  I realize you only have to worry about you but I have an entire family to take care of.

Fingers crossed 

That Biden wins? Agreed. 

No, fingers crossed that your taxes are so high that you can't take care of your family.  

Since it may be a while before we get to full communism, I'd like to see taxes increased across the board, but definitely on anyone who would be significantly affected by Sanders's policies.  

Communism is a failed economic philosophy and is for fucking morons.  Excuse my language.  

Agreed. Are north korea and Cuba shining examples?

Well Cambodia and the Soviet Block were stunning successes as well.  Even Vietnam transferred from a centrally planned to a market economy starting in the 80's and now over 40 million people were lifted out of poverty.  People who advocate for communism just have never done any real critical analysis.  They read Marx and say "aha!".  Yet it fails every time.  

Democratic socialism has provided the far best successes in history. If you want to go down that path.

Greedy capitalism fueled by egocentrism and patriotism (read nationalism) has not.

There's a world of difference between Dem socialism/socialism and communism.  

Never said there wasn't.

then I don't understand your point.  Your country is also driven by greedy capitalism, since we have the same fundamental economic system.  The only difference is that your government provides more social services, but we are the same economy at the end of the day.  I'm contrasting it to full blown communism.  

Greedy vile dictatorships draining a country for the sole reason of the dictator and the elite isn't "full blown communism". It's greedy vile dictatorships misusing a system. 

Just like fascist Trump is misusing a system for the sole reason of himself and the elite.

But I am not interested in having a discussion about communism vs capitalism. I doubt there can be anything out there as tired as discussing that. Maybe people claiming No Code is better than Riot Act. But just maybe. 

I am though zero percent for communism in anyway. Just to make that clear, because i guess some people on here might get that wrong.

And I am to my knowledge not allowed to discuss Sweden vs the US if I want to keep my posting privileges - so I am not able to go into the differences and what you are wrong and right about concerning that. But it's okey because:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

ecdanc said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/opinions/iowa-caucus-goers-choose-moderate-houlahan/index.html

Congresswoman: Iowa, send someone who can win my state

Well, she can always vote for a repeated liar

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1222649628631486464?s=20

I agree. Don't vote for that liar Bernie sanders.  Just ask Elizabeth Warren.

Agreed.

And still you'd proudly vote for fascist Trump over Sanders.



So maybe skip joining in on this discussion.

It just shows what a horrible candidate Sanders is in my eyes.  I ll continue to engage in this discussion since I m the only one voting in the election between the two of us. 

Why do you so often piggyback on other peoples posts and opinions? Now its Mickeyrats endlessly repeated (and moot) punchline you choose to parrot. Historically it has most often been mrussels. 

I don't get that trait.

And say what you want about Sanders being "horrible", you still would pick full blown racist Trump and his 8000+ lies. Which i don't even think the parroted in here would be able to defend. Or at least I hope they can't.

And that's the end of the "engaging" for me, because what is there to gain from someone who would "proudly" choose Trump over a normal human being. You that even are the only one voting in the election between the two of us! Come on Man! (Biden quote)

Yes voting for trump over sanders is a very popular opinion around here that I have piggybacked (insert sarcasm).  Second amendment rights is one where I got against the norm.  On Iran, mrussell and I went head to head.  So I"m not really sure where you are coming from on that one.  All my thoughts are my own.  
I did use mickeyrats line about you not voting here in the us. Guilty as charged.  

And yes I think Sanders is horrible.  His policies would cost me a hell of a lot of money to the point where I would actual question whether or not I would be able to pay my current bills and live in my house.  I realize you only have to worry about you but I have an entire family to take care of.

Fingers crossed 

That Biden wins? Agreed. 

No, fingers crossed that your taxes are so high that you can't take care of your family.  

Since it may be a while before we get to full communism, I'd like to see taxes increased across the board, but definitely on anyone who would be significantly affected by Sanders's policies.  

Communism is a failed economic philosophy and is for fucking morons.  Excuse my language.  

Agreed. Are north korea and Cuba shining examples?

Well Cambodia and the Soviet Block were stunning successes as well.  Even Vietnam transferred from a centrally planned to a market economy starting in the 80's and now over 40 million people were lifted out of poverty.  People who advocate for communism just have never done any real critical analysis.  They read Marx and say "aha!".  Yet it fails every time.  

Democratic socialism has provided the far best successes in history. If you want to go down that path.

Greedy capitalism fueled by egocentrism and patriotism (read nationalism) has not.

There's a world of difference between Dem socialism/socialism and communism.  

Never said there wasn't.

then I don't understand your point.  Your country is also driven by greedy capitalism, since we have the same fundamental economic system.  The only difference is that your government provides more social services, but we are the same economy at the end of the day.  I'm contrasting it to full blown communism.  

Greedy vile dictatorships draining a country for the sole reason of the dictator and the elite isn't "full blown communism". It's greedy vile dictatorships misusing a system. 

Just like fascist Trump is misusing a system for the sole reason of himself and the elite.

But I am not interested in having a discussion about communism vs capitalism. I doubt there can be anything out there as tired as discussing that. Maybe people claiming No Code is better than Riot Act. But just maybe. 

And I am to my knowledge not allowed to discuss Sweden vs the US if I want to keep my posting privileges - so I am not able to go into the differences and what you are wrong about concerning that. But it's okey because:

INT. DAN'S TRUCK - NIGHT

For the third time, Alice is turning the corner headed
towards Debbie's driveway.

ALICE
Here we are.

DAN
Something's wrong here. It feels like...

EXT. DEBBIE'S HOUSE - NIGHT

Alice is about to pull in, then BAM, SMASH CUT TO:

EXT. STREET CORNER - NIGHT

You guessed it. Dan waits as Alice comes running up.

ALICE AND DAN
(simultaneously)
C'mon, we have to hurry. I'm driving.

Alice stares at Dan.

ALICE
Oh God, I'm still asleep. He's got us
going in circles.

Communism may be fine on paper, but history has shown that in practice, it is corrupted into violence and oppression against one's own people.  At the end of the day, the leaders of any country will not be peasants.  It's just not human nature.  So you're right.. 'greedy vile dictators', but that's the nature when you consolidate all economic, military and political power into one small group of people/person.  

I agree. E.g. Trump.

Luckily you have the firewall of Batman-without-the-suit Adam Schiff. People in history have not been as lucky.

And Social Democracy is still the best system out there. As shown in practice. So - LETS GO IOWA!