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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    edited January 2020
    EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS NOWHERE

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    mickeyrat said:
    I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

    What's the argument here?  


      carried over from the dem thread. in effect trans identity trumps all. biology/physiology mean nothing.
    I don't see how it matters.  Hard to argue if you aren't a scientist.
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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

    What's the argument here?  


    That’s complicated 
    There’s been three main threads of conversation:

    1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

    2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

    3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mickeyrat said:
    I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

    What's the argument here?  


      carried over from the dem thread. in effect trans identity trumps all. biology/physiology mean nothing.
    I don't see how it matters.  Hard to argue if you aren't a scientist.
    No, it really isn’t. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

    That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.
    See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    ecdanc said:
    I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

    That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.
    See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?
    keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

    That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.
    See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?
    keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it
    So you’re reinforcing the dehumanization of trans, non-binary, and gender fluid people. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS NOWHERE

    NA NA NA-NA NA-NA NA NAAA
    Good analogy..  
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    And it does beg the question....how are we supposed to even know what the proper pronoun is?  Are we all going to tattoo our pronouns on our foreheads?
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    And it does beg the question....how are we supposed to even know what the proper pronoun is?  Are we all going to tattoo our pronouns on our foreheads?
    You should read through the thread 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

    What's the argument here?  


    That’s complicated 
    There’s been three main threads of conversation:

    1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

    2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

    3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling
    We only lack understanding because you're incapable of explaining.  Some teacher...
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

    What's the argument here?  


    That’s complicated 
    There’s been three main threads of conversation:

    1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

    2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

    3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling
    We only lack understanding because you're incapable of explaining.  Some teacher...
    I don’t teach remedial courses. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    And it does beg the question....how are we supposed to even know what the proper pronoun is?  Are we all going to tattoo our pronouns on our foreheads?
    it does seem to change often.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

    What's the argument here?  


    That’s complicated 
    There’s been three main threads of conversation:

    1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

    2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

    3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling
    We only lack understanding because you're incapable of explaining.  Some teacher...
    I don’t teach remedial courses. 
    You don't make friends either, evidently. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

    That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.
    See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?
    keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it
    So you’re reinforcing the dehumanization of trans, non-binary, and gender fluid people. 
    Not intentionally.  I don't think it is fair to make that case against someone who truly doesn't care how people choose to identify.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

    That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.
    See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?
    keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it
    So you’re reinforcing the dehumanization of trans, non-binary, and gender fluid people. 
    Not intentionally.  I don't think it is fair to make that case against someone who truly doesn't care how people choose to identify.
    Why does your intent matter? I doubt it does to the trans people you’re misgendering. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

    What's the argument here?  


    That’s complicated 
    There’s been three main threads of conversation:

    1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

    2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

    3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling
    We only lack understanding because you're incapable of explaining.  Some teacher...
    I don’t teach remedial courses. 
    You don't make friends either, evidently. 
    I am pretty picky. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    edited January 2020
    ecdanc said:
    I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

    That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.
    See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?
    keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it
    Or instead of this shitty take, you can just choose to respect people.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

    That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.
    See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?
    keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it
    Or instead of this shitty take, you can just choose to respect people.
    Don’t get sucked in. Run!!
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

    That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.
    See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?
    keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it
    So you’re reinforcing the dehumanization of trans, non-binary, and gender fluid people. 
    Not intentionally.  I don't think it is fair to make that case against someone who truly doesn't care how people choose to identify.
    Why does your intent matter? I doubt it does to the trans people you’re misgendering. 
    but your intent here is supposed to excuse things, right.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14