All things Transgender related

Spiritual_Chaos

EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS NOWHERE

NA NA NA-NA NA-NA NA NAAA

Gern Blansten

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

What's the argument here?  

  carried over from the dem thread. in effect trans identity trumps all. biology/physiology mean nothing.

I don't see how it matters.  Hard to argue if you aren't a scientist.

ecdanc

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

What's the argument here?  

That’s complicated 

There’s been three main threads of conversation:

1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling

ecdanc

Gern Blansten said:

mickeyrat said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

What's the argument here?  

  carried over from the dem thread. in effect trans identity trumps all. biology/physiology mean nothing.

I don't see how it matters.  Hard to argue if you aren't a scientist.

No, it really isn’t. 

ecdanc

Gern Blansten said:

I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.

See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?

Gern Blansten

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.

See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?

keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it

ecdanc

Gern Blansten said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.

See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?

keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it

So you’re reinforcing the dehumanization of trans, non-binary, and gender fluid people. 

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS NOWHERE

NA NA NA-NA NA-NA NA NAAA

Good analogy..  

Gern Blansten

And it does beg the question....how are we supposed to even know what the proper pronoun is?  Are we all going to tattoo our pronouns on our foreheads?

ecdanc

Gern Blansten said:

And it does beg the question....how are we supposed to even know what the proper pronoun is?  Are we all going to tattoo our pronouns on our foreheads?

You should read through the thread 

mrussel1

ecdanc said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

What's the argument here?  

That’s complicated 

There’s been three main threads of conversation:

1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling

We only lack understanding because you're incapable of explaining.  Some teacher...

ecdanc

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

What's the argument here?  

That’s complicated 

There’s been three main threads of conversation:

1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling

We only lack understanding because you're incapable of explaining.  Some teacher...

I don’t teach remedial courses. 

mickeyrat

Gern Blansten said:

And it does beg the question....how are we supposed to even know what the proper pronoun is?  Are we all going to tattoo our pronouns on our foreheads?

it does seem to change often.

mrussel1

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

What's the argument here?  

That’s complicated 

There’s been three main threads of conversation:

1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling

We only lack understanding because you're incapable of explaining.  Some teacher...

I don’t teach remedial courses. 

You don't make friends either, evidently. 

Gern Blansten

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.

See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?

keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it

So you’re reinforcing the dehumanization of trans, non-binary, and gender fluid people. 

Not intentionally.  I don't think it is fair to make that case against someone who truly doesn't care how people choose to identify.

ecdanc

Gern Blansten said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.

See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?

keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it

So you’re reinforcing the dehumanization of trans, non-binary, and gender fluid people. 

Not intentionally.  I don't think it is fair to make that case against someone who truly doesn't care how people choose to identify.

Why does your intent matter? I doubt it does to the trans people you’re misgendering. 

ecdanc

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm new to this thread and don't want to read all that crap.

What's the argument here?  

That’s complicated 

There’s been three main threads of conversation:

1) mrussel’s inane efforts to win an argument he doesn’t understand. You can ignite those parts. 

2) some mildly contentious, but generally positive discussion about gender neutral child rearing

3) an open conversation about whether anyone here can actually hear “you’re being offensive” without immediately turtling

We only lack understanding because you're incapable of explaining.  Some teacher...

I don’t teach remedial courses. 

You don't make friends either, evidently. 

I am pretty picky. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Gern Blansten said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.

See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?

keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it

Or instead of this shitty take, you can just choose to respect people.

ecdanc

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.

See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?

keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it

Or instead of this shitty take, you can just choose to respect people.

Don’t get sucked in. Run!!

mickeyrat

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

ecdanc said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'll say this....I don't care how people identify and want to live their lives.  Life is too short for us to tell anyone how they can live.

That being said, this pronoun crap is ridiculous.  They even have to document your preferred pronoun on medical records now.  I told my wife I am going to use "her/they" if they ask me.

See, what’s the proper way for me to tell Gern he’s being offensive?

keep in mind that I don't care what pronoun people use....I'm just not going to use it

So you’re reinforcing the dehumanization of trans, non-binary, and gender fluid people. 

Not intentionally.  I don't think it is fair to make that case against someone who truly doesn't care how people choose to identify.

Why does your intent matter? I doubt it does to the trans people you’re misgendering. 

but your intent here is supposed to excuse things, right.