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  • ejk1280
    ejk1280 Posts: 86
    You have to appreciate what the band has attempted to accomplish here.  All but two shows are sold out and no legal or “traditional” secondary market even available to buy at an inflated cost.  Unfortunately for those of us not lucky enough to win 10c tickets or verified fan etc. we now have essentially a zero percent chance of seeing them outside of Denver if NYC.  

    So right now if you were shutout you have two opportunities to attend a show on this first leg NYC and Denver.  If you live west of the Mississippi lucky for you Denver is still affordable.  If you reasonably can only get to NYC.  Then get ready for spending the most you have spent on a crappy seat ever.  $500 is the cheapest seat available.  

    So once again yes it’s great 10c had the largest allotment ever.  Yes it’s great they eliminated the secondary market (for all but two shows). But not so great when you didn’t luck out in lotteries.   

    At this point it’s cheaper for me to fly to Denver and see a show then drive a few hours and pay thru the nose for NYC.  But that’s the best option right now I think.  Who knows maybe ticket prices drop but inventory is low and nuts like us are desperate.  
  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    edited January 2020
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    How greasy do you have to be to work for StubHub?
  • BizzzyBozzzy
    BizzzyBozzzy San Diego Posts: 388
    BennyLaRue said:
    How greasy do you have to be to work for StubHub?
    I could say that about hundreds of thousands of jobs...people gotta work. Very few jobs are super noble.
  • ejk1280
    ejk1280 Posts: 86
    AlaG said:
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
    It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....
  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    edited January 2020
    BizzzyBozzzy said:
    BennyLaRue said:
    How greasy do you have to be to work for StubHub?
    I could say that about hundreds of thousands of jobs...people gotta work. Very few jobs are super noble.
    Sure but organ thieves, small-town sheriffs who enforce no-dancing ordinances and Joel Osteen aren't exactly topical.
    Post edited by BennyLaRue on
  • MD190661
    MD190661 Posts: 394
    All I know is there were lots of lower level seats for both Oakland shows when I got into the VF sale. Of course this is a lower demand show than MSG, but if scalpers had an incentive to buy tickets, there would have been nothing but upper garbage 5 minutes after the sale started. 
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    MD190661 said:
    All I know is there were lots of lower level seats for both Oakland shows when I got into the VF sale. Of course this is a lower demand show than MSG, but if scalpers had an incentive to buy tickets, there would have been nothing but upper garbage 5 minutes after the sale started. 

    Exactly. I bought general public tickets for Tampa in 2016, a show that I think was in lower demand. Best we could do was either nosebleeds in the far endzone or behind the stage.
    "I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."

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  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    ejk1280 said:
    AlaG said:
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
    It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....
    What you are able to pay.

    I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.
  • luismota123
    luismota123 Posts: 161
    edited January 2020
    LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:
    I thought I read in one of the emails from 10c that based on the new partnership with tm, no tickets would be available on secondary resale sites like stubhub. What happened to that because stubhub seems to be full of tickets

    Outside of CN, NY, and CO...No PJ tickets being sold on Stubhub in NA. 
    Sucks for NY and CO, but I like this since scalpers can't make money in other states, hopefully NY and CO adopt new laws. 
  • ejk1280
    ejk1280 Posts: 86
    AlaG said:
    ejk1280 said:
    AlaG said:
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
    It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....
    What you are able to pay.

    I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.
    Clearly we have two different views.  Cheers
  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    ejk1280 said:
    AlaG said:
    ejk1280 said:
    AlaG said:
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
    It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....
    What you are able to pay.

    I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.
    Clearly we have two different views.  Cheers
    I get that. I don't respect it. As yours gives precedence to wealthy and priviledged individuals over everyone else. But sure...cheers.
  • TN49724
    TN49724 Posts: 106
    AlaG said:
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
    You make a good argument, but you assume worth is  an isolated variable. Everyone has a value they assign to certain luxuries.  They same ppl who can’t afford to pay $400 a ticket may also be wasting tons of money in other areas of their life which leaves them with less to spend on on tickets.  They want to pay $103.00 because that’s what THEY are willing to pay.  Meanwhile, someone else might jump at the opportunity to pay $400 a ticket because that’s what a ticket to them is worth because they have managed their personal budget in a way that frees up extra disposable income.  

    That takes forethought and discipline.  Not everyone has that.
  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    The bottom line is there's no system that would give tickets to everyone who wants them. So put me down for the one that offers the most tickets at face value.
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    TN49724 said:
    AlaG said:
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
    You make a good argument, but you assume worth is  an isolated variable. Everyone has a value they assign to certain luxuries.  They same ppl who can’t afford to pay $400 a ticket may also be wasting tons of money in other areas of their life which leaves them with less to spend on on tickets.  They want to pay $103.00 because that’s what THEY are willing to pay.  Meanwhile, someone else might jump at the opportunity to pay $400 a ticket because that’s what a ticket to them is worth because they have managed their personal budget in a way that frees up extra disposable income.  

    That takes forethought and discipline.  Not everyone has that.
    I dont think people argue that as much...as much as they hate the idea of a 3rd party buying tickets with the SOLE reason of jacking up the price and reselling it at a higher price. 

    I would rather pay PJ directly 300 bucks for a ticket, than pay PJ 100 and a scalper/stubhub 200.  
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    Ryan_WFC said:
    The bottom line is there's no system that would give tickets to everyone who wants them. So put me down for the one that offers the most tickets at face value.
    100%
  • JBob87
    JBob87 Posts: 485
    AlaG said:
    ejk1280 said:
    AlaG said:
    ejk1280 said:
    AlaG said:
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
    It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....
    What you are able to pay.

    I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.
    Clearly we have two different views.  Cheers
    I get that. I don't respect it. As yours gives precedence to wealthy and priviledged individuals over everyone else. But sure...cheers.
    It doesn’t take “wealth or privilege” this isn’t a yacht it takes a little bit of planning. I’ve put $20 into a savings account every paycheck since the last arena tour four years ago for the exact purpose of getting good seats the next time PJ played arenas.

    Want to talk about privilege, how about the privilege of paying the same price for nosebleeds with my 10c number as front row sides and never having a chance at good seats in perpetuity just due to when I was born. Sorry I couldn’t have a 10c membership when I was 8 years old in 1998.
  • BruceU2PJ
    BruceU2PJ Posts: 14
    Ryan_WFC said:
    The bottom line is there's no system that would give tickets to everyone who wants them. So put me down for the one that offers the most tickets at face value.
    At least with Stubhub you have the opportunity available to you, if you want. Better than being a 3 time loser with Baltimore this week when I live 25 minutes away.  
  • ejk1280
    ejk1280 Posts: 86
    AlaG said:
    ejk1280 said:
    AlaG said:
    ejk1280 said:
    AlaG said:
    Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

    Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

    I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.
    It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....
    What you are able to pay.

    I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.
    Clearly we have two different views.  Cheers
    I get that. I don't respect it. As yours gives precedence to wealthy and priviledged individuals over everyone else. But sure...cheers.
    Of course you don’t “respect” it.  Because there is only one view on everything right?
  • Jammin909
    Jammin909 Posts: 888
    BruceU2PJ said:
    Ryan_WFC said:
    The bottom line is there's no system that would give tickets to everyone who wants them. So put me down for the one that offers the most tickets at face value.
    At least with Stubhub you have the opportunity available to you, if you want. Better than being a 3 time loser with Baltimore this week when I live 25 minutes away.  
    LOL I'm a three time loser with Denver this week. I live ten mins away!
    The less you know, the more you believe.

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