Stubhub and such

ecdanc

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.

It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....

What you are able to pay.

I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.

Clearly we have two different views.  Cheers

I get that. I don't respect it. As yours gives precedence to wealthy and priviledged individuals over everyone else. But sure...cheers.

Of course you don’t “respect” it.  Because there is only one view on everything right?

You’re entitled (pun intended) to your position. And we’re free to think it is selfish and reeking of privilege. 

AlaG

TN49724 said:

AlaG said:

Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.

You make a good argument, but you assume worth is  an isolated variable. Everyone has a value they assign to certain luxuries.  They same ppl who can’t afford to pay $400 a ticket may also be wasting tons of money in other areas of their life which leaves them with less to spend on on tickets.  They want to pay $103.00 because that’s what THEY are willing to pay.  Meanwhile, someone else might jump at the opportunity to pay $400 a ticket because that’s what a ticket to them is worth because they have managed their personal budget in a way that frees up extra disposable income.  

That takes forethought and discipline.  Not everyone has that.

I definitely recognize your point. Perhaps the economic dividing line StubHub draws between fans is more marginal than I've made it out to be in some cases.

I managed to pay my way into some NYC shows a couple of times thru StubHub and pay travel expenses when I was in college, working part time for minimum wage, and simultaneously paying student loans. I definitely wasn't wealthy at the time. But there are fans of this band in worse circumstances who got tickets to MSG this time around, I guarantee it. And I'm glad that its been made easier for them to have that opportunity.

I do at the very least imagine the band sees it as I've laid it out in my prior comment.

AlaG

JBob87 said:

AlaG said:

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.

It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....

What you are able to pay.

I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.

Clearly we have two different views.  Cheers

I get that. I don't respect it. As yours gives precedence to wealthy and priviledged individuals over everyone else. But sure...cheers.

It doesn’t take “wealth or privilege” this isn’t a yacht it takes a little bit of planning. I’ve put $20 into a savings account every paycheck since the last arena tour four years ago for the exact purpose of getting good seats the next time PJ played arenas.

Want to talk about privilege, how about the privilege of paying the same price for nosebleeds with my 10c number as front row sides and never having a chance at good seats in perpetuity just due to when I was born. Sorry I couldn’t have a 10c membership when I was 8 years old in 1998.

The fan club ensures it continues receiving money to function by providing that priviledge. And you bought into it knowing that's how it's supposed to work. It's not the best comparison. It isn't fair though, objectively. I get that. And am a victim as well. That's why the band offers GA and occasionally gives you a chance to be in the front few rows at all seats shows.

ecdanc

JBob87 said:

AlaG said:

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.

It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....

What you are able to pay.

I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.

Clearly we have two different views.  Cheers

I get that. I don't respect it. As yours gives precedence to wealthy and priviledged individuals over everyone else. But sure...cheers.

It doesn’t take “wealth or privilege” this isn’t a yacht it takes a little bit of planning. I’ve put $20 into a savings account every paycheck since the last arena tour four years ago for the exact purpose of getting good seats the next time PJ played arenas.

Want to talk about privilege, how about the privilege of paying the same price for nosebleeds with my 10c number as front row sides and never having a chance at good seats in perpetuity just due to when I was born. Sorry I couldn’t have a 10c membership when I was 8 years old in 1998.

I think plenty of people would consider it "privilege" to have your ability to save 20 bucks from every paycheck for a concert.  

AlaG

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

ejk1280 said:

AlaG said:

Folks compaining about not having access to any tickets through StubHub need to check their priviledge.

Being able to afford $400 tickets is a pipe dream for so many fans of this band and it seems like PJ has bargained with the TM behemoth to make attending their shows possible for more folks than ever before by providing a tremendous amount of FV tickets through 10C, avoiding a situation where just those of us who have the luxury to blow thousands on show tickets get them.

I get it. You get to go to less shows and that objectively sucks...for you. But it's a win for this band. A win for folks who do not have that luxury. A win for fair market practice and ethical consumerism. Its funny how this fanbase walks the walk and stands up for what's right until it gets in the way of them getting concert tickets.

It’s certainly an interesting argument.  Lottery vs what you are willing to pay.  I don’t know if there is a right answer here .....

What you are able to pay.

I get that concerts are a luxury product to begin with but its totally against this band and what they stand for to only provide this experience to the highest bidders.

Clearly we have two different views.  Cheers

I get that. I don't respect it. As yours gives precedence to wealthy and priviledged individuals over everyone else. But sure...cheers.

Of course you don’t “respect” it.  Because there is only one view on everything right?

No. Yours is just self-serving and inconsiderate. You're free to have it. I'm free to think what I want about it.

on2legs

Am I missing something or isn't the Fan-To-Fan exchange the secondary market? 

BennyLaRue

on2legs said:

Am I missing something or isn't the Fan-To-Fan exchange the secondary market? 

It is but some people think it's communism or some crap like that.

ecdanc

BennyLaRue said:

on2legs said:

Am I missing something or isn't the Fan-To-Fan exchange the secondary market? 

It is but some people think it's communism or some crap like that.

If only. 

tdawe

on2legs said:

Am I missing something or isn't the Fan-To-Fan exchange the secondary market? 

Right now I think most people are operating under the assumption that the Fan-To-Fan exchange will essentially be the experience we all had yesterday & this morning, but lasting for an entire month+. Not sure if that will be the case, but I think that's why people are prematurely upset about there not being a resale market (that or they didn't do the reading and don't know about the exchange).

I, for one, am pretty encouraged by the fact that the non-NY/CO shows do not seem to have shown up for resale in large numbers yet. A couple here and there, but not a lot. If the scalpers had a plan for how to beat this thing, there would be tons of listings right now that would pop up on a google search for "pearl jam baltimore tickets" or what have you. It's possible - not assured or even very likely, but possible - that the scalpers/brokers aren't any better at reading emails than a lot of the posters on this board, and that they snapped up their usual share of the tickets only to find themselves stuck. Which, if true, could lead to a situation where there is a bunch of inventory when the exchanges open up, which will get snapped up immediately, followed by a couple weeks of relative quiet before the "oh crap I just realized my wedding is scheduled for the same day" crowd shows up to dump their tickets at the last minute. 

AlaG

ecdanc said:

BennyLaRue said:

on2legs said:

Am I missing something or isn't the Fan-To-Fan exchange the secondary market? 

It is but some people think it's communism or some crap like that.

If only. 

  

ecdanc

I love Pearl Jam, but if someone offered me $22,500 for a pair of pit tickets, I'd probably take it (I don't have MSG tickets, so I don't have to worry about the temptation). 

Lerxst1992

I have never seen ticket prices like what's on stub hub MSG. Four digits for anything front of stage 100s AND 200s. 

Not the super bowl

Not The Stones

Not The Pope

Nothing close.

ecdanc

Lerxst1992 said:

I have never seen ticket prices like what's on stub hub MSG. Four digits for anything front of stage 100s AND 200s. 

Not the super bowl

Not The Stones

Not The Pope

Nothing close.

Did the pope do a full album show?

halshakarchi

on2legs said:

Am I missing something or isn't the Fan-To-Fan exchange the secondary market? 

It is but reselling the ticket won’t make a profit. You can’t charge more than face value.

RS65573

I had someone offer me $4000 cash for my MSG tickets in 08. I didnt take it. What will it be now?

ecdanc

RS65573 said:

I had someone offer me $4000 cash for my MSG tickets in 08. I didnt take it. What will it be now?

You should have just robbed that person. 

RS65573

ecdanc said:

RS65573 said:

I had someone offer me $4000 cash for my MSG tickets in 08. I didnt take it. What will it be now?

You should have just robbed that person. 

He was a BIGGER european dude...no chance, lol, big wad-o-cash tho.

BennyLaRue

Lerxst1992 said:

I have never seen ticket prices like what's on stub hub MSG. Four digits for anything front of stage 100s AND 200s. 

Not the super bowl

Not The Stones

Not The Pope

Nothing close.

It will blow your mind what good World Series tickets go for. You can get in the building for a few hundred but the top tickets are 5-digits.

Jed

RS65573 said:

I had someone offer me $4000 cash for my MSG tickets in 08. I didnt take it. What will it be now?

I doubt you'll get much for 2008 tickets 12 years after the show occurred.

Saltzy23

This MSG show is the most expensive concert ticket I have ever seen in my life relative to face value.

2X-3X face is pretty rare.

This is 5X face at the LOW END of the spectrum.

Absolutely insane.

The AVERAGE SOLD PRICE IS $712.58 SO FAR!

Someone bought 2 seats today for $3,213 EACH BEFORE FEES!