Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

BF25394 said:

I just want to echo a key point that others have made: if people do not keep this issue active, we will almost certainly never receive these singles.  (We still might never see them even if we do keep talking about it.)

By way of comparison, I started another thread to ask if the Ten Club was planning to make any accommodations like they did last tour for people who do not have smartphones.  Several people chimed in to say "quit your complaining" or "just get a smartphone"-- note that I didn't actually complain, just put the question out there at the same time that I emailed them about it since time was of the essence with a Wednesday-night deadline to request tickets.  My inquiry was called "unreasonable" by more than one poster and "insane" by at least one other.  (Several other people posted that they had the same issue-- 20 percent of Americans do not have smartphones-- or that they had smartphones but didn't want to see people without them get shut out for that reason.)  In the end, the Ten Club responded to my email late Wednesday and basically said not to worry about it, that "we will get our members in one way or the other."  This was after other people had received less encouraging email replies on Monday.  I'm pretty sure that what happened is, as the three days (not much longer) passed, the Ten Club had enough members affected by this who inquired about it that they realized that it would be really bad customer service to exclude a small but real number of the band's most dedicated fans.  To their credit, they adjusted to the reality on the ground-- that the policy excluded more people than they anticipated.  I'm also pretty sure that, if no one had bothered to ask, no accommodations would have been made. 

Some posters had said the transition to all ticketing being via smartphone is inevitable.  I joked that nothing is inevitable except death and that we will never get the 2017 and 2018 fan-club singles... but one way to make sure that things are inevitable is not to ask for an alternative.

jeffbr said:

mace1229 said:

And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.

Absolutely right. Threads like this have purpose and value. The reality is that the missing singles aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The other reality is that this band has demonstrated an utter lack of care and concern when it comes to their fan base. They give no shits about their obligations to us. We're asking them to fulfill those obligations and give 2 shits in the form of the missing singles. That's it. Nobody needs to be suing anyone. And nobody needs to defend the indefensible. The "sycophants" are no better than the "complainers" in this thread. 

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

mace1229 said:

And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.

Absolutely right. Threads like this have purpose and value. The reality is that the missing singles aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The other reality is that this band has demonstrated an utter lack of care and concern when it comes to their fan base. They give no shits about their obligations to us. We're asking them to fulfill those obligations and give 2 shits in the form of the missing singles. That's it. Nobody needs to be suing anyone. And nobody needs to defend the indefensible. The "sycophants" are no better than the "complainers" in this thread. 

FR181798 said:

Having googled what Horsey sauce is, I was pleased to find out it contains no horse.  

brianlux said:

JB16057 said:

Pearl Jam are activists for what they believe is wrong and right and we should be too. This is wrong what they've done and they've yet to make it right.

All they have to do is apologize and give us a timeline and then everything is good in my eyes unless they don't deliver when they said they would but I would give them the benefit of the doubt until that timeline passes.

They obviously believe that they should give us a timeline when to expect the new album and when they'll tour. Those things take months(sometimes years) to plan. I believe that if they had valuable information regarding the singles and DEEP that they would share it as they should.

Maybe the singles and DEEP are already planned. By now, they would have to know the frustration from us fans and the Ten Club and they should want to put a stop to it. I can't imagine that all 5 members of Pearl Jam simply forgot about the annual singles or DEEP. Regardless of how you feel about this conversation, this is not the way you should ever treat your biggest and most loyal fans.

I wonder if they even have a clue any of this is happening?  I doubt any of them follow the fan club forums. 

Tim Simmons said:

I hope they don’t pay attention to us and how awful we are

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

mace1229 said:

And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.

Absolutely right. Threads like this have purpose and value. The reality is that the missing singles aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The other reality is that this band has demonstrated an utter lack of care and concern when it comes to their fan base. They give no shits about their obligations to us. We're asking them to fulfill those obligations and give 2 shits in the form of the missing singles. That's it. Nobody needs to be suing anyone. And nobody needs to defend the indefensible. The "sycophants" are no better than the "complainers" in this thread. 

If the sycophant shoe fits, wear it with pride!