Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,680
    jeffbr said:
    mace1229 said:
    And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.
    Absolutely right. Threads like this have purpose and value. The reality is that the missing singles aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The other reality is that this band has demonstrated an utter lack of care and concern when it comes to their fan base. They give no shits about their obligations to us. We're asking them to fulfill those obligations and give 2 shits in the form of the missing singles. That's it. Nobody needs to be suing anyone. And nobody needs to defend the indefensible. The "sycophants" are no better than the "complainers" in this thread. 
    they're worse. at least one of the complaints is legitimate. 

    fan #1: "I'm unhappy that the band hasn't fulfilled its obligations"
    fan #2: "the band not fulfilling their obligations doesn't bother me one bit. you all need to calm down, your complaint is without merit"

    also fan #2: "PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS. IT'S DRIVING ME INSANE!". 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jeffbr said:
    mace1229 said:
    And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.
    Absolutely right. Threads like this have purpose and value. The reality is that the missing singles aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The other reality is that this band has demonstrated an utter lack of care and concern when it comes to their fan base. They give no shits about their obligations to us. We're asking them to fulfill those obligations and give 2 shits in the form of the missing singles. That's it. Nobody needs to be suing anyone. And nobody needs to defend the indefensible. The "sycophants" are no better than the "complainers" in this thread. 
    they're worse. at least one of the complaints is legitimate. 

    fan #1: "I'm unhappy that the band hasn't fulfilled its obligations"
    fan #2: "the band not fulfilling their obligations doesn't bother me one bit. you all need to calm down, your complaint is without merit"

    also fan #2: "PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS. IT'S DRIVING ME INSANE!". 
    :lol:
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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Cant wait for the singles to come. They'll be amazing and we'll all be happy to say all is forgiven for this debacle. In the meantime we should all complain a little but not get too personal about where the blame lies as really we still know nothing. 
  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    FR181798 said:
    Cant wait for the singles to come. They'll be amazing and we'll all be happy to say all is forgiven for this debacle. In the meantime we should all complain a little but not get too personal about where the blame lies as really we still know nothing. 
    A measured and appropriate response. This is all Fan #3 desires.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    jeffbr said:
    mace1229 said:
    And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.
    Absolutely right. Threads like this have purpose and value. The reality is that the missing singles aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The other reality is that this band has demonstrated an utter lack of care and concern when it comes to their fan base. They give no shits about their obligations to us. We're asking them to fulfill those obligations and give 2 shits in the form of the missing singles. That's it. Nobody needs to be suing anyone. And nobody needs to defend the indefensible. The "sycophants" are no better than the "complainers" in this thread. 
    they're worse. at least one of the complaints is legitimate. 

    fan #1: "I'm unhappy that the band hasn't fulfilled its obligations"
    fan #2: "the band not fulfilling their obligations doesn't bother me one bit. you all need to calm down, your complaint is without merit"

    also fan #2: "PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS. IT'S DRIVING ME INSANE!". 
    OK, I'll concede your point! :lol: 

    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,013
    I would rank Horsey sauce in my top 5 all time of restaurant condiments.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    on2legs said:
    I would rank Horsey sauce in my top 5 all time of restaurant condiments.  
    This is also measured and appropriate. We're really on a roll now.
  • Lostpawn
    Lostpawn Posts: 414
    on2legs said:
    I would rank Horsey sauce in my top 5 all time of restaurant condiments.  
    Where does Chick-fil-a sauce rank?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    Up until recently, these missing singles represented our best chance for new Pearl Jam music. The music is what it's about for me, and these matter. I'm digital and don't give two shits about the vinyl, but the music on them is important. I'm glad we are getting a new album but that doesn't mean I don't also hope some songs that didn't make the album will wind up as the singles. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,013
    Lostpawn said:
    on2legs said:
    I would rank Horsey sauce in my top 5 all time of restaurant condiments.  
    Where does Chick-fil-a sauce rank?
    Also top 5.  Possible #1.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    I have no idea what Horsey sauce is, am I missing out? I dont live under a rock btw just on a small island.
  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    Side B will be Matt farting on a snare drum.
  • rictus58
    rictus58 Posts: 53
    Just chill out. It's forthcoming. 
  • Lostpawn
    Lostpawn Posts: 414
    on2legs said:
    Lostpawn said:
    on2legs said:
    I would rank Horsey sauce in my top 5 all time of restaurant condiments.  
    Where does Chick-fil-a sauce rank?
    Also top 5.  Possible #1.  
    Our spirits are aligned. You are my condiment soulmate. We should meet. At a Chick-fil-a, next to an Arby’s. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,013
    rictus58 said:
    Just chill out. It's forthcoming. 
    The single or the horsey sauce?
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    edited January 2020
    Having googled what Horsey sauce is, I was pleased to find out it contains no horse.  We had enough of that in our Ready Meals in 2013. I think you guys call them TV dinners.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,858
    I also think a large part of the problem is most of us can't figure out what the delay is. We know they have unreleased recordings and lots of live stiff that can be thrown in. I can't think of a single reason these aren't done. They have claimed pressing times is an issue, but that never seems to be an issue for stuff they charge us for, like RSD and vaults, so that's really a BS excuse. It just comes back to why won;t they simply do it and why won't they communicate it with us? It is a little insulting every time they try to sell us new vinyl and say they are backordered on the ones we already paid for.
    They sold Unplugged for the price of what they sell 2 singles. That would have been an amazing solution to where everyone would have said this was definitely worth the wait and felt respected. Instead, we get nothing and are asked to pay for more vinyl when these are still missing.

    At the end of the day HFD is pretty right, I don't think about it until I see this thread. It isn't a big deal, but it is a little frustrating and does feel like we've been taken advantage of. I'm still going to pre-order the new album (already did) and go to shows though, that's why I'm really here.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    I just want to echo a key point that others have made: if people do not keep this issue active, we will almost certainly never receive these singles.  (We still might never see them even if we do keep talking about it.)

    By way of comparison, I started another thread to ask if the Ten Club was planning to make any accommodations like they did last tour for people who do not have smartphones.  Several people chimed in to say "quit your complaining" or "just get a smartphone"-- note that I didn't actually complain, just put the question out there at the same time that I emailed them about it since time was of the essence with a Wednesday-night deadline to request tickets.  My inquiry was called "unreasonable" by more than one poster and "insane" by at least one other.  (Several other people posted that they had the same issue-- 20 percent of Americans do not have smartphones-- or that they had smartphones but didn't want to see people without them get shut out for that reason.)  In the end, the Ten Club responded to my email late Wednesday and basically said not to worry about it, that "we will get our members in one way or the other."  This was after other people had received less encouraging email replies on Monday.  I'm pretty sure that what happened is, as the three days (not much longer) passed, the Ten Club had enough members affected by this who inquired about it that they realized that it would be really bad customer service to exclude a small but real number of the band's most dedicated fans.  To their credit, they adjusted to the reality on the ground-- that the policy excluded more people than they anticipated.  I'm also pretty sure that, if no one had bothered to ask, no accommodations would have been made. 

    Some posters had said the transition to all ticketing being via smartphone is inevitable.  I joked that nothing is inevitable except death and that we will never get the 2017 and 2018 fan-club singles... but one way to make sure that things are inevitable is not to ask for an alternative.
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  • Joostone
    Joostone Posts: 242
    edited January 2020
    Maybe they recorded some Cornell related stuff as a tribute. Maybe they already pressed the singles with a recording of 'Missing'. They have played that one live. And maybe Vicky stepped in preventing that to happen.....Who knows.... ???

    But yeah, it's more likely they just didn't record any stuff for these singles. But I would be happy with unreleased vault stuff from the past...
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  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    I thought they might do something for us with this upcoming album, but if that was the plan, then they wouldn't let us pre-order it. I think I've lost all hope now.
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