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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,010
    6 of the 10 All Time Passing leaders are active, only 3 are active hOF and one is going to be in soon so that is your top 10.

    Takenton, Fouts and Montana are all in the top 20 and the best of the best that will be erased from history soon which is a shame.

    Back to Largent.  He had 100 TD's when he retired in 89.  Since then 9 more people have either tied or have eclipsed him.  Antonio Brown is the ONLY active player w any kind of shot at getting up there but that will be tough since he is sitting on 75.

    Rice's record will be the other record that might never be broken.  197 TD's...  He almost doubled Largent's then record, lol.

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,010
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Peyton will be 3rd in passing TD after Sunday
    And he'll be close to 10th in a few years. These stats are meaningless in the NFL
    If a QB has a decent line he can throw for 5k a year for a few years then trickle down t 4k so yes I agree.

    I remember when Largent retired he had a few records and all were broken in like 2 years.

    Farve had a record for what, not even a year?

    The one record that will be tough to get at will be most yards by a RB.  The longevity just isn't there anymore.
    Too many rb's by committee anymore too.

    Igot may have a point about the td record. I thought guys were closer than I thought. That top four is gonna be tough to break into but I think a lot of guys will get into Marino territory before long. Same deal with yards.

    NFL all time stats are so fucking skewed though. Almost all guys in the top ten of most stats played just within the last twenty years.
    Yes, with rule changes and added games, players like OJ, Ghost and Brown are all but forgotten unless there is an NFL special about them.

    Hell, who remembers Largent anymore?

    The only reason people remember Dick Butkus is for the name and they all forget about how bad of a dude he really was when he played.

    I'll look at the leaders, I need a laugh.
    Emmit, Walter, a current Bills player and Barry top 4.....

    lol, when I think GREAT, Frank Gore doesn't come to mind, is that why you didn't name him?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,010
    ikiT said:
    LA Ram Eric Dickerson was all of that.  with giant shoulder pads and those glasses.

    Largent?  What about ZORN?
    Zorn?
  • mickeyrat
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      https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_career.htm

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,108
    mickeyrat said:
      https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_career.htm

    If Sanders doesn't retire out of the blue and plays as long as Smith and Gore, he eclipses 20,000 yards easily.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,010
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
      https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rush_yds_career.htm

    If Sanders doesn't retire out of the blue and plays as long as Smith and Gore, he eclipses 20,000 yards easily.
    Rumor was he did that so Payton could pass on and still be the #1 rusher.

    Another reason why Sanders was the best, well besides Jim Brown...
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    edited December 2019
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Back to Largent.  He had 100 TD's when he retired in 89.  Since then 9 more people have either tied or have eclipsed him.  Antonio Brown is the ONLY active player w any kind of shot at getting up there but that will be tough since he is sitting on 75.

    No, it’ll be tough for Brown to reach 100 TDs because he’s more likely to be in a mental-institution than on an NFL team at this point. Or jail. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Back to Largent.  He had 100 TD's when he retired in 89.  Since then 9 more people have either tied or have eclipsed him.  Antonio Brown is the ONLY active player w any kind of shot at getting up there but that will be tough since he is sitting on 75.

    No, it’ll be tough for Brown to reach 100 TDs because he’s more likely to be in a mental-institution than on an NFL team at this point. Or jail. 
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,668
    brees > brady.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,108
    6>1
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,010
    Wobbie said:
    brees > brady.
    What is in that weed u smoke?
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Poncier said:
    6>1
    word
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,351
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Peyton will be 3rd in passing TD after Sunday
    And he'll be close to 10th in a few years. These stats are meaningless in the NFL
    If a QB has a decent line he can throw for 5k a year for a few years then trickle down t 4k so yes I agree.

    I remember when Largent retired he had a few records and all were broken in like 2 years.

    Farve had a record for what, not even a year?

    The one record that will be tough to get at will be most yards by a RB.  The longevity just isn't there anymore.
    Too many rb's by committee anymore too.

    Igot may have a point about the td record. I thought guys were closer than I thought. That top four is gonna be tough to break into but I think a lot of guys will get into Marino territory before long. Same deal with yards.

    NFL all time stats are so fucking skewed though. Almost all guys in the top ten of most stats played just within the last twenty years.
    And that's what makes what Marino did in the era he played in amazing. Imagine if he played in today's game?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    cutz said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Peyton will be 3rd in passing TD after Sunday
    And he'll be close to 10th in a few years. These stats are meaningless in the NFL
    If a QB has a decent line he can throw for 5k a year for a few years then trickle down t 4k so yes I agree.

    I remember when Largent retired he had a few records and all were broken in like 2 years.

    Farve had a record for what, not even a year?

    The one record that will be tough to get at will be most yards by a RB.  The longevity just isn't there anymore.
    Too many rb's by committee anymore too.

    Igot may have a point about the td record. I thought guys were closer than I thought. That top four is gonna be tough to break into but I think a lot of guys will get into Marino territory before long. Same deal with yards.

    NFL all time stats are so fucking skewed though. Almost all guys in the top ten of most stats played just within the last twenty years.
    And that's what makes what Marino did in the era he played in amazing. Imagine if he played in today's game?
    He would average over 40 td's and 5,000 yards a year. 
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,668
    Poncier said:
    6>1

    would have been 5>2 if the saints hadn't been hosed and pats got the JV squad.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
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    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,010
    The Juggler said:
    cutz said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Peyton will be 3rd in passing TD after Sunday
    And he'll be close to 10th in a few years. These stats are meaningless in the NFL
    If a QB has a decent line he can throw for 5k a year for a few years then trickle down t 4k so yes I agree.

    I remember when Largent retired he had a few records and all were broken in like 2 years.

    Farve had a record for what, not even a year?

    The one record that will be tough to get at will be most yards by a RB.  The longevity just isn't there anymore.
    Too many rb's by committee anymore too.

    Igot may have a point about the td record. I thought guys were closer than I thought. That top four is gonna be tough to break into but I think a lot of guys will get into Marino territory before long. Same deal with yards.

    NFL all time stats are so fucking skewed though. Almost all guys in the top ten of most stats played just within the last twenty years.
    And that's what makes what Marino did in the era he played in amazing. Imagine if he played in today's game?
    He would average over 40 td's and 5,000 yards a year. 
    Put Tarkenton in that convo, Elway, Fouts and Montana and let's see some numbers.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    cutz said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Peyton will be 3rd in passing TD after Sunday
    And he'll be close to 10th in a few years. These stats are meaningless in the NFL
    If a QB has a decent line he can throw for 5k a year for a few years then trickle down t 4k so yes I agree.

    I remember when Largent retired he had a few records and all were broken in like 2 years.

    Farve had a record for what, not even a year?

    The one record that will be tough to get at will be most yards by a RB.  The longevity just isn't there anymore.
    Too many rb's by committee anymore too.

    Igot may have a point about the td record. I thought guys were closer than I thought. That top four is gonna be tough to break into but I think a lot of guys will get into Marino territory before long. Same deal with yards.

    NFL all time stats are so fucking skewed though. Almost all guys in the top ten of most stats played just within the last twenty years.
    And that's what makes what Marino did in the era he played in amazing. Imagine if he played in today's game?
    He would average over 40 td's and 5,000 yards a year. 
    Put Tarkenton in that convo, Elway, Fouts and Montana and let's see some numbers.
    YOU put Tarkenton in that convo, Elway, Fouts and Montana and let's see some numbers.
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  • The Juggler
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    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    6>1

    would have been 5>2 if the saints hadn't been hosed and pats got the JV squad.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    edited December 2019
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    6>1

    would have been 5>2 if the saints hadn't been hosed and pats got the JV squad.
    A play here or a play there and the Patriots could be anywhere from 8-1 to 1-8 in their nine (Brady/Belichick-led) Super Bowls. Their only Super Bowl where one team was in control the entire time was SB39 against the Eagles. Every other game could have gone either way. 
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  • The Juggler
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    6>1

    would have been 5>2 if the saints hadn't been hosed and pats got the JV squad.
    A play here or a play there and the Patriots could be anywhere from 8-1 to 1-8 in their nine (Brady/Belichick-led) Super Bowls. Their only Super Bowl where one team was in control the entire time was SB39 against the Eagles. Every other game could have gone either way. 
    It was? Dude, the Eagles covered. That game easily could've gone the other way had the Eagles made better adjustments and not turned the ball over a few times:

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